Comments on: Venezuela’s decline: the military hold the key https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 07 May 2019 05:14:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: ymarsakar https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2433387 Tue, 07 May 2019 05:14:54 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2433387 Aesop, it’s more like shadow cartels disrupted the economy and law and order, via secret combinations, then funded Chavez to take a hammer to the system so they could be hired on as Chavismos, part of the Ruling Elite.

That’s how secret combinations have worked, just look at the Federal Reserve. THey aren’t just a bunch of conspirators hiding in a shadow run, running away from the Military Occupation.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2433034 Fri, 03 May 2019 15:24:28 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2433034 Art Deco on May 2, 2019 at 2:02 pm at 2:02 pm said:
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It took 25 years worth of economic mismanagement by Venezuela’s political class for the voters to take a gamble on handing the keys to Chavez.
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Classic case of out of the frying pan into the fire?

Maybe they should have figured out what caused the mismanagement (greed, corruption, and arrogance no doubt, just like with our elites) and fixed that, instead of opting for vengeance clothed in the rhetoric of equality.

That distinction seems to be an essential difference between Trump and Chavez.

]]> By: om https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432930 Thu, 02 May 2019 18:38:46 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432930 Sergey:

Poll tests have a bit of history in the US, it wasn’t good. Be careful what you wish for.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432924 Thu, 02 May 2019 18:02:14 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432924 The most important lesson one can take from the situation in Venezuela is the ease and willingness for a citizenry to vote for a national suicide.

It took 25 years worth of economic mismanagement by Venezuela’s political class for the voters to take a gamble on handing the keys to Chavez.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432923 Thu, 02 May 2019 18:01:01 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432923 “A Venezuela can happen anywhere where voters can choose their leaders.” – John Tyler

Nothing guarantees prudence or justice. Iraq under the Ba’athists pissed away masses of oil wealth. Argentina is a fine example of chronic underperformance as well.

]]> By: Sergey https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432921 Thu, 02 May 2019 17:57:44 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432921 This is the best argument for the need for the potential voters to pass their Economics 101 exam before they can vote. Some history of socialist and communist movements and their results should also be included.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432853 Thu, 02 May 2019 01:57:43 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432853 “A Venezuela can happen anywhere where voters can choose their leaders.” – John Tyler

“A Republic…if you can keep it.” – B. Franklin

]]> By: Roy Nathanson https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432845 Wed, 01 May 2019 23:25:32 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432845 John Tyler,

You should be afraid.

]]> By: JohnTyler https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432808 Wed, 01 May 2019 16:30:38 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432808 The most important lesson one can take from the situation in Venezuela is the ease and willingness for a citizenry to vote for a national suicide.
Hugo Chavez was voted into office the first time via free and mostly honest elections.
His message was that all the inequalities within Venezuela were due solely to the actions of a greedy, repressive class – the wealthy – who earned their wealth by exploiting the average citizen, and that he would redress that situation.
Clearly, this message resonated with the voters.

In their stupidity and ignorance the voters refused to see where this political ideology had been applied in other nations and what the results of this ideology produced.
In their laziness they just believed Chavez would fix everything and produce “fair” outcomes.

The Venezuelans are now reaping the results of their voting decisions.

Here in the USA we have Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Occasional Cortex preaching the Chavez/Maduro/Castro philosophy and Sanders has raised millions of $$$$.
This is VERY troubling.

Apparently there are many Americans who are just too ignorant to understand what they are supporting.
A Venezuela can happen anywhere where voters can choose their leaders.
And this is truly frightening.

]]> By: Roy Nathanson https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/30/venezuelas-decline-the-military-hold-the-key/#comment-2432803 Wed, 01 May 2019 15:35:31 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=86787#comment-2432803 Snow on Pine,

I agree and I would also point out that, in the light of history, we can now see exactly how much of an error it was to not fully enforce the Monroe Doctrine in the case of Cuba and the Russian meddling that allowed the Castro regime to survive for so long. Cuba has been, and continues to be a sort of cancer in the Americas. They have been subverting democracy in our region from the beginning and continue to do so. They are a sort of parasite that eventually kills its host. This must stop. Trump’s goal of an entire hemisphere free of this plague, if achieved, will put him in the history books as one of the best presidents ever.

However, we need to be cautious about our methods. We must avoid a return to the past in our relationships with Latin America. We want partners in Latin America, not clients.

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