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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley on April 19, 2019 at 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm said:

A pretty good post on fairness and balanced viewpoints. This sees the positive and negative traits of both pro conspiracy theorists and anti theorists.

Roy Nathanson I applaud, if only because he was able to elicit several paragraphs and posts in a debate with a christian that almost never makes those longer logical points to others. It was useful seeing the pro and con points made by members here, even if it led nowhere ultimately. 

I am fine with Roy&#039;s beliefs or lack of them. Not a threat to me personally or to my gods or to my Divinity. If I had to be respectful of other people&#039;s beliefs, I would have to write some appalling apology to everyone after writing to them only a few sentences.

I burn it all down with Krittika, criticism, the sharp cutting blade. If it is pure, it will remain untouched from the Fire.

Also Neo, I don&#039;t remember the JFK posts of yours that I have read, covering the issue with the SS removing their motor coverage of JFK&#039;s vehicle, front and sides. JFK was out in the open and normal procedure would have the SS as escorts on the side, because they need to be close bodyguards not &quot;far bodyguards&quot; that can&#039;t react in time to say, other vehicles or people ramming JFK.

This removal of the motor protection escorts provided a clear shot to the sniper(s).

Also, you have not covered the recent evidence unclassified by President Trum. There were several interesting details unveiled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley on April 19, 2019 at 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm said:</p>
<p>A pretty good post on fairness and balanced viewpoints. This sees the positive and negative traits of both pro conspiracy theorists and anti theorists.</p>
<p>Roy Nathanson I applaud, if only because he was able to elicit several paragraphs and posts in a debate with a christian that almost never makes those longer logical points to others. It was useful seeing the pro and con points made by members here, even if it led nowhere ultimately. </p>
<p>I am fine with Roy&#8217;s beliefs or lack of them. Not a threat to me personally or to my gods or to my Divinity. If I had to be respectful of other people&#8217;s beliefs, I would have to write some appalling apology to everyone after writing to them only a few sentences.</p>
<p>I burn it all down with Krittika, criticism, the sharp cutting blade. If it is pure, it will remain untouched from the Fire.</p>
<p>Also Neo, I don&#8217;t remember the JFK posts of yours that I have read, covering the issue with the SS removing their motor coverage of JFK&#8217;s vehicle, front and sides. JFK was out in the open and normal procedure would have the SS as escorts on the side, because they need to be close bodyguards not &#8220;far bodyguards&#8221; that can&#8217;t react in time to say, other vehicles or people ramming JFK.</p>
<p>This removal of the motor protection escorts provided a clear shot to the sniper(s).</p>
<p>Also, you have not covered the recent evidence unclassified by President Trum. There were several interesting details unveiled.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2019 01:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everyone has moved to discussing obstruction; J. E. Dyer takes a long hard look at the allegations of Russian meddling, and how they didn&#039;t make any difference to the election, until we were TOLD about them.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/04/19/mueller-report-the-unexplored-bias-of-the-russian-interference-in-the-election-case/

bonus article on who knew what and when
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/04/18/the-2015-saga-a-weekend-with-john-brennan-and-bill-clinton/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has moved to discussing obstruction; J. E. Dyer takes a long hard look at the allegations of Russian meddling, and how they didn&#8217;t make any difference to the election, until we were TOLD about them.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/04/19/mueller-report-the-unexplored-bias-of-the-russian-interference-in-the-election-case/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/04/19/mueller-report-the-unexplored-bias-of-the-russian-interference-in-the-election-case/</a></p>
<p>bonus article on who knew what and when<br />
<a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/04/18/the-2015-saga-a-weekend-with-john-brennan-and-bill-clinton/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/04/18/the-2015-saga-a-weekend-with-john-brennan-and-bill-clinton/</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Help, I&#039;m being repressed!&quot;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Help, I&#8217;m being repressed!&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 18:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I request an end to the personal sniping.  The question of religion---atheism vs. belief---is often a loaded one, and there&#039;s no need for insults.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I request an end to the personal sniping.  The question of religion&#8212;atheism vs. belief&#8212;is often a loaded one, and there&#8217;s no need for insults.</p>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Grey,

Please read my first post in this thread. It was not offensive to anyone here and should not have been controversial. Yet, I have been defending myself since.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey,</p>
<p>Please read my first post in this thread. It was not offensive to anyone here and should not have been controversial. Yet, I have been defending myself since.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson:

You may have created a non-God for your mind.  Others have considered the question of God at a far deeper and more rigorous level.  You may want to read 

&quot;Five Proofs of the Existence of God&quot; by Edward Feser. 
 ISBN 978-1-62164-133-9.  

This life is short.  God bless your soul.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Nathanson:</p>
<p>You may have created a non-God for your mind.  Others have considered the question of God at a far deeper and more rigorous level.  You may want to read </p>
<p>&#8220;Five Proofs of the Existence of God&#8221; by Edward Feser.<br />
 ISBN 978-1-62164-133-9.  </p>
<p>This life is short.  God bless your soul.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy, this is not a great site for constant agnostic atheistic arguing; hasn&#039;t been; hope it doesn&#039;t degenerate into another one.

Believers can certainly be non-rational about their beliefs.  Whether religious, anti-religious, or belief in some event that never happened.

Those that believed that the Mueller Report would show that Trump colluded must come to grips with the fact, long &quot;known&quot; (strongly suspected?) to many of us, that there was no evidence of collusion, or of any crime.

This belief was always known to be falsifiable.  Most religious beliefs are not falsifiable, and therefore not subject to the scientific method.

What is subject to that method, is comparing how extremist believers with different beliefs act, and making probabilistic estimates about future actions.  Such estimates can then be checked with the facts, as they occur, or don&#039;t.

Another fact about humans is that, as they change their beliefs, they can claim to themselves that they were never &quot;really wrong&quot;.  I&#039;m sure most Mueller Report believers are in the process of doing some versions of that, now.  Also, some of them will just up and say, &quot;They were lied to, they believed the lies by the Dem media and the Dem liars, and now ... ?? (some will support Trump?)&quot;

Mueller&#039;s failure to find evidence against the non-guilty Trump is huge exoneration.  The obstruction issues are going to be increasingly seen as distractions from going after the guilty deep state criminals: Comey, Lynch, McCabe; Clinton, Rice, Obama.

Actually, I&#039;m waiting to find out the names of the 8 criminal referrals Nunes is supposed to be sending.

I&#039;ll believe in indictments when I read that some of the criminals are indicted.  I already believe they should be indicted, including HR Clinton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, this is not a great site for constant agnostic atheistic arguing; hasn&#8217;t been; hope it doesn&#8217;t degenerate into another one.</p>
<p>Believers can certainly be non-rational about their beliefs.  Whether religious, anti-religious, or belief in some event that never happened.</p>
<p>Those that believed that the Mueller Report would show that Trump colluded must come to grips with the fact, long &#8220;known&#8221; (strongly suspected?) to many of us, that there was no evidence of collusion, or of any crime.</p>
<p>This belief was always known to be falsifiable.  Most religious beliefs are not falsifiable, and therefore not subject to the scientific method.</p>
<p>What is subject to that method, is comparing how extremist believers with different beliefs act, and making probabilistic estimates about future actions.  Such estimates can then be checked with the facts, as they occur, or don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Another fact about humans is that, as they change their beliefs, they can claim to themselves that they were never &#8220;really wrong&#8221;.  I&#8217;m sure most Mueller Report believers are in the process of doing some versions of that, now.  Also, some of them will just up and say, &#8220;They were lied to, they believed the lies by the Dem media and the Dem liars, and now &#8230; ?? (some will support Trump?)&#8221;</p>
<p>Mueller&#8217;s failure to find evidence against the non-guilty Trump is huge exoneration.  The obstruction issues are going to be increasingly seen as distractions from going after the guilty deep state criminals: Comey, Lynch, McCabe; Clinton, Rice, Obama.</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m waiting to find out the names of the 8 criminal referrals Nunes is supposed to be sending.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll believe in indictments when I read that some of the criminals are indicted.  I already believe they should be indicted, including HR Clinton.</p>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om, 

Actually, it is the reverse. God is made in Man&#039;s image.  Every god ever invented by man seems to over represent man&#039;s worst traits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om, </p>
<p>Actually, it is the reverse. God is made in Man&#8217;s image.  Every god ever invented by man seems to over represent man&#8217;s worst traits.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 04:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson:

You  have beliefs?  An arrogant atheist who is sure he is &quot;intellectually stronger&quot; than non-atheists, a superman, who knew?  Was it insensitive of me to question a specific Atheist, a representative of 23% of whatever?  Nope. Try not to worry or fear Roy, this isn&#039;t the Handmaids Tale. 

Don&#039;t hide behind the Muslim strawman, it&#039;s not intellectually strong.  Hint, don&#039;t drop the racist card either.  

You may have also have insulted Jews also with your &quot;Messiah coming down from the mountain&quot; &quot;wit.&quot;  But bless your soul, we are all made in God&#039;s image.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Nathanson:</p>
<p>You  have beliefs?  An arrogant atheist who is sure he is &#8220;intellectually stronger&#8221; than non-atheists, a superman, who knew?  Was it insensitive of me to question a specific Atheist, a representative of 23% of whatever?  Nope. Try not to worry or fear Roy, this isn&#8217;t the Handmaids Tale. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hide behind the Muslim strawman, it&#8217;s not intellectually strong.  Hint, don&#8217;t drop the racist card either.  </p>
<p>You may have also have insulted Jews also with your &#8220;Messiah coming down from the mountain&#8221; &#8220;wit.&#8221;  But bless your soul, we are all made in God&#8217;s image.</p>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 03:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om,

Religious conservatives chafe at being told that they need to be sensitive to the beliefs of Muslims. Yet you want me to be sensitive to the beliefs of Christians.

In a recent survey, 23% of Americans identified themselves as &quot;None&quot; when asked for religious affiliation. I think that it is you who should try to be more sensitive to the opinions of such a significant segment of the population. Actually,  I am not expecting it... ? 

But, it would be nice not to be called out on such an obvious analogy. Artfldgr found an article saying virtually the same thing as I did.

Do you refrain from criticism of Ilhan Omar and her overt racism just because it is Ramadan. I would think not. So why should I submerge my deepestly held beliefs simply out of fear that I might possibly offend you?

Do have a fine day, sir.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om,</p>
<p>Religious conservatives chafe at being told that they need to be sensitive to the beliefs of Muslims. Yet you want me to be sensitive to the beliefs of Christians.</p>
<p>In a recent survey, 23% of Americans identified themselves as &#8220;None&#8221; when asked for religious affiliation. I think that it is you who should try to be more sensitive to the opinions of such a significant segment of the population. Actually,  I am not expecting it&#8230; ? </p>
<p>But, it would be nice not to be called out on such an obvious analogy. Artfldgr found an article saying virtually the same thing as I did.</p>
<p>Do you refrain from criticism of Ilhan Omar and her overt racism just because it is Ramadan. I would think not. So why should I submerge my deepestly held beliefs simply out of fear that I might possibly offend you?</p>
<p>Do have a fine day, sir.</p>
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