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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431331</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;If a worker leaves a slightly defective plug next to a pile of oily rags, &quot; - Richard

We used to read Fine Houmebuilding and other magazines of that ilk, and I think this story was in one of those, now many years ago -- but I&#039;ve remembered and used it as a caution lesson.

A youngish couple were building their dream home; got it all finished after much toil and money; did the final varnishing of the wooden floor; dropped all their rags in a heap, and left for the night.

Well, you know what happened next.
Heartbreaking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a worker leaves a slightly defective plug next to a pile of oily rags, &#8221; &#8211; Richard</p>
<p>We used to read Fine Houmebuilding and other magazines of that ilk, and I think this story was in one of those, now many years ago &#8212; but I&#8217;ve remembered and used it as a caution lesson.</p>
<p>A youngish couple were building their dream home; got it all finished after much toil and money; did the final varnishing of the wooden floor; dropped all their rags in a heap, and left for the night.</p>
<p>Well, you know what happened next.<br />
Heartbreaking.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431329</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t see why the Great Frog couldn’t have given us about 600 times longer to live.&quot; -- Julie

Actually, we have even longer than that --
Lots of time for sight-seeing in eternity!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t see why the Great Frog couldn’t have given us about 600 times longer to live.&#8221; &#8212; Julie</p>
<p>Actually, we have even longer than that &#8212;<br />
Lots of time for sight-seeing in eternity!</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In those circumstances, that is, rehabilitation going on, lots of paint, paint thinner, caulking, other substances, rags, tarps. electrical cords everywhere to power lights, heat guns, etc., etc., etc., how could you tell?  If a worker leaves a slightly defective plug next to a pile of oily rags, how are you ever going to know if it was deliberate or accidental?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In those circumstances, that is, rehabilitation going on, lots of paint, paint thinner, caulking, other substances, rags, tarps. electrical cords everywhere to power lights, heat guns, etc., etc., etc., how could you tell?  If a worker leaves a slightly defective plug next to a pile of oily rags, how are you ever going to know if it was deliberate or accidental?</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431274</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the French security officials were doing their jobs, I&#039;d imagine that there were cameras focused, 24/7, on various exterior portions of the premier Christian religious symbol that is Notre Dame.

If there are such surveillance pictures, and they captured anything of significance, I wonder what they show?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the French security officials were doing their jobs, I&#8217;d imagine that there were cameras focused, 24/7, on various exterior portions of the premier Christian religious symbol that is Notre Dame.</p>
<p>If there are such surveillance pictures, and they captured anything of significance, I wonder what they show?</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the context of my remarks here yesterday, about finding out the truth about a major, politically charged incident, and possible attempts at disinformation, there are videos that have emerged. 

The question here is their date and time, their source, their veracity, whether they have been manipulated in any way, and the motive or motives behind their appearance.  

See  http://dcwhispers.com/the-video-authorities-dont-want-you-to-see-mystery-person-flash-of-light-before-notre-dame-cathedral-fire/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the context of my remarks here yesterday, about finding out the truth about a major, politically charged incident, and possible attempts at disinformation, there are videos that have emerged. </p>
<p>The question here is their date and time, their source, their veracity, whether they have been manipulated in any way, and the motive or motives behind their appearance.  </p>
<p>See  <a href="http://dcwhispers.com/the-video-authorities-dont-want-you-to-see-mystery-person-flash-of-light-before-notre-dame-cathedral-fire/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dcwhispers.com/the-video-authorities-dont-want-you-to-see-mystery-person-flash-of-light-before-notre-dame-cathedral-fire/</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431226</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 04:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See, as well, this news story at:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/17/man-gas-cans-arrested-st-patricks-cathedral-new-yo/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, as well, this news story at:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/17/man-gas-cans-arrested-st-patricks-cathedral-new-yo/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/17/man-gas-cans-arrested-st-patricks-cathedral-new-yo/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431218</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine on April 17, 2019 at 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm said:
Whether this fire was deliberately set or an accident ...
* * *
Professor Plum, in the sacristy, with a candelabra.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine on April 17, 2019 at 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm said:<br />
Whether this fire was deliberately set or an accident &#8230;<br />
* * *<br />
Professor Plum, in the sacristy, with a candelabra.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431154</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whether this fire was deliberately set or an accident will, I am afraid, go the way of &quot;was Marilyn Monroe deliberately killed, and not a suicide,&quot; &quot;what happened to Jimmy Hoffa,&quot; and &quot;was TWA800 a terrorist attack, accidental destruction by an errant Navy missile, or was it an actual accident, due to some mechanical malfunction that took place inside the aircraft,&quot; and the direct cause of this fire will never be determined, at least to everyone&#039;s satisfaction.

It seems to me that some occurrences are just so politically charged, their effects--if reported truthfully--so potentially dangerous and disastrous, that the authority&#039;s first instinct, their first response, is to cover them up, to withhold evidence, to mislead people, to--if they can--manufacture such an effective disinformation campaign, to fuzz things up so completely, that no one will ever be able to definitively determine just exactly what happened.

Thus, while many people will have the suspicion, the feeling that &quot;something is not right here,&quot; nonetheless, the most pedestrian, the most benign, the least disruptive explanation will be accepted. 

This, I am afraid, is one of those &quot;occurrences.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether this fire was deliberately set or an accident will, I am afraid, go the way of &#8220;was Marilyn Monroe deliberately killed, and not a suicide,&#8221; &#8220;what happened to Jimmy Hoffa,&#8221; and &#8220;was TWA800 a terrorist attack, accidental destruction by an errant Navy missile, or was it an actual accident, due to some mechanical malfunction that took place inside the aircraft,&#8221; and the direct cause of this fire will never be determined, at least to everyone&#8217;s satisfaction.</p>
<p>It seems to me that some occurrences are just so politically charged, their effects&#8211;if reported truthfully&#8211;so potentially dangerous and disastrous, that the authority&#8217;s first instinct, their first response, is to cover them up, to withhold evidence, to mislead people, to&#8211;if they can&#8211;manufacture such an effective disinformation campaign, to fuzz things up so completely, that no one will ever be able to definitively determine just exactly what happened.</p>
<p>Thus, while many people will have the suspicion, the feeling that &#8220;something is not right here,&#8221; nonetheless, the most pedestrian, the most benign, the least disruptive explanation will be accepted. </p>
<p>This, I am afraid, is one of those &#8220;occurrences.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still want to know exactly what happened, who was up there, and what piece of equipment provided the spark which set off the fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still want to know exactly what happened, who was up there, and what piece of equipment provided the spark which set off the fire.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-is-heavily-damaged-but-will-survive/#comment-2431123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On FOX, I have no use for obvious 24/7 Lefty Shep Smith, but I used to have some respect for Neil Cavuto.  

The fire at Notre Dame occurred against the background of increasing Muslim terror attacks in Europe and in France, and police reports that, just last year alone, some 850 churches in France were vandalized/desecrated, that there had been vandalism against a dozen churches in France within the last couple of weeks, and that a fire was deliberately set last week in the oldest cathedral in France, that of St. Denis--located in the midst of one of the Muslim &quot;no-go zones,&quot; just outside of Paris. 

&quot;No-go zones,&quot; I might add, that some in denial European and French authorities deny even exist. 

But after their performances yesterday--in which both Shep and Cavuto shut down people who said that they were suspicious that the fire at Notre Dame had been deliberately set, and might have been terrorism--both of these FOX anchors have revealed themselves to be nothing more than agents of the Islamic Propaganda Department.  

How is it that they are so protective of the rights and the image of Muslims and of Islam that they would instantly spring into action to censor such speculations which--it seems to me--are pretty logical and reasonable ones to have, given the background of escalating Muslim terror attacks, and the massive number of attacks against and desecrations of churches in France?

How is it their right to determine which pieces of information--even speculation--are correct or within bounds, and that we should be &quot;allowed&quot; to hear them, and that some ideas, some speculations, are categorically &quot;wrong,&quot; out of bounds, and that we should be prevented from hearing them?  

Who are they protecting by doing what they did,  Islam and Muslims, or the rest of us, who are the ones under actual and increasing physical attack? 

Us so-called &quot;unbelievers,&quot; who need all the information we can get our hands on to try to figure out what is happening, and where we are under attack.  

Are they presenting us with all of the information and, then, letting us make our own analysis of it?

Or, are they trying to present us a shaped &quot;narrative,&quot; one designed to lead us to their desired conclusion?  

I think the latter.   

P.S.--I note that Churches and Mosques, and their symbolism and locations have always been important in Islamic ideology, military, and political strategy, in which Mosques mark the boundaries of conquered territory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On FOX, I have no use for obvious 24/7 Lefty Shep Smith, but I used to have some respect for Neil Cavuto.  </p>
<p>The fire at Notre Dame occurred against the background of increasing Muslim terror attacks in Europe and in France, and police reports that, just last year alone, some 850 churches in France were vandalized/desecrated, that there had been vandalism against a dozen churches in France within the last couple of weeks, and that a fire was deliberately set last week in the oldest cathedral in France, that of St. Denis&#8211;located in the midst of one of the Muslim &#8220;no-go zones,&#8221; just outside of Paris. </p>
<p>&#8220;No-go zones,&#8221; I might add, that some in denial European and French authorities deny even exist. </p>
<p>But after their performances yesterday&#8211;in which both Shep and Cavuto shut down people who said that they were suspicious that the fire at Notre Dame had been deliberately set, and might have been terrorism&#8211;both of these FOX anchors have revealed themselves to be nothing more than agents of the Islamic Propaganda Department.  </p>
<p>How is it that they are so protective of the rights and the image of Muslims and of Islam that they would instantly spring into action to censor such speculations which&#8211;it seems to me&#8211;are pretty logical and reasonable ones to have, given the background of escalating Muslim terror attacks, and the massive number of attacks against and desecrations of churches in France?</p>
<p>How is it their right to determine which pieces of information&#8211;even speculation&#8211;are correct or within bounds, and that we should be &#8220;allowed&#8221; to hear them, and that some ideas, some speculations, are categorically &#8220;wrong,&#8221; out of bounds, and that we should be prevented from hearing them?  </p>
<p>Who are they protecting by doing what they did,  Islam and Muslims, or the rest of us, who are the ones under actual and increasing physical attack? </p>
<p>Us so-called &#8220;unbelievers,&#8221; who need all the information we can get our hands on to try to figure out what is happening, and where we are under attack.  </p>
<p>Are they presenting us with all of the information and, then, letting us make our own analysis of it?</p>
<p>Or, are they trying to present us a shaped &#8220;narrative,&#8221; one designed to lead us to their desired conclusion?  </p>
<p>I think the latter.   </p>
<p>P.S.&#8211;I note that Churches and Mosques, and their symbolism and locations have always been important in Islamic ideology, military, and political strategy, in which Mosques mark the boundaries of conquered territory.</p>
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