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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess it is such a commonplace that we don&#039;t even remark on it, but isn&#039;t it obvious that the majority of criminals, from petty thieves to bank robbers to mass murderers, are Democrats?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it is such a commonplace that we don&#8217;t even remark on it, but isn&#8217;t it obvious that the majority of criminals, from petty thieves to bank robbers to mass murderers, are Democrats?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 05:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Answer to my own question from PowerLine Week in Pictures?

https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-26-at-3.45.43-PM.png?w=1100&#038;ssl=1

Smollett trumps Emanuel for both Obamas, I suppose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer to my own question from PowerLine Week in Pictures?</p>
<p><a href="https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-26-at-3.45.43-PM.png?w=1100&#038;ssl=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-26-at-3.45.43-PM.png?w=1100&#038;ssl=1</a></p>
<p>Smollett trumps Emanuel for both Obamas, I suppose.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 03:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been looking for some pundit to mention something about back-stage relationships so I could tee off of it, but so far no one has (anyone here seen something?) -- so here is my question.

Emanuel was Obama&#039;s Chief of Staff for 2 years; I don&#039;t think they were particularly chummy, but they didn&#039;t have a toxic split when Rahm left to become mayor.
Tina Tchen, the fixer, was Michelle&#039;s former top aide.

Did Barack know that his wife&#039;s minions were going to blind-side his former staffer, or did she do it on her own?
What are the ramifications of either situation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for some pundit to mention something about back-stage relationships so I could tee off of it, but so far no one has (anyone here seen something?) &#8212; so here is my question.</p>
<p>Emanuel was Obama&#8217;s Chief of Staff for 2 years; I don&#8217;t think they were particularly chummy, but they didn&#8217;t have a toxic split when Rahm left to become mayor.<br />
Tina Tchen, the fixer, was Michelle&#8217;s former top aide.</p>
<p>Did Barack know that his wife&#8217;s minions were going to blind-side his former staffer, or did she do it on her own?<br />
What are the ramifications of either situation?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/03/29/illinois-prosecutors-are-mighty-angry-about-the-disposition-of-the-smollett-case/#comment-2429240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 02:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, at least there is this.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/30/jussie-smollett-loses-naacp-image-award/amp/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least there is this.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/30/jussie-smollett-loses-naacp-image-award/amp/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/30/jussie-smollett-loses-naacp-image-award/amp/</a></p>
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		By: Fractal Rabbit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fractal Rabbit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Whatsit,

I too work in/with the NYS court system. And, while Illinois is not NYS, I can&#039;t wrap my brain around the 16 felony indictments being resolved in the fashion done with Smollett. It boggles the mind.

Like you said, no diversion program lets a defendant just walk away with no formal admission. And then, in diversion programs (I&#039;m thinking of something along the lines of Felony Treatment/Drug Court as an example) punishment is deferred pending success in the program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Whatsit,</p>
<p>I too work in/with the NYS court system. And, while Illinois is not NYS, I can&#8217;t wrap my brain around the 16 felony indictments being resolved in the fashion done with Smollett. It boggles the mind.</p>
<p>Like you said, no diversion program lets a defendant just walk away with no formal admission. And then, in diversion programs (I&#8217;m thinking of something along the lines of Felony Treatment/Drug Court as an example) punishment is deferred pending success in the program.</p>
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 21:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Griffin, @neo: the documentary about Seattle homelessness is &lt;a href=&#039;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw&#038;t=9s&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s shocking, and I &lt;i&gt;live&lt;/i&gt; in Seattle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Griffin, @neo: the documentary about Seattle homelessness is <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw&amp;t=9s' rel="nofollow">here</a>. It&#8217;s shocking, and I <i>live</i> in Seattle.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n.n]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He, and coconspirators in the press and politics, should have been charged with democratic corruption, negligence, and fraud, with a diversity enhancement.  Alas, it&#039;s a Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice world.  Perhaps not.  People are not so green.  They&#039;re struggling to flush this inconvenient hoax down the black &quot;whore&quot; (hat tip: NAACP)... hole, and it&#039;s causing a backup that it is soiling one too many people&#039;s reputations a la Clinton&#039;s Water Closet.  So, who will they sacrifice to assure a stable of sustainable pretenses?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He, and coconspirators in the press and politics, should have been charged with democratic corruption, negligence, and fraud, with a diversity enhancement.  Alas, it&#8217;s a Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice world.  Perhaps not.  People are not so green.  They&#8217;re struggling to flush this inconvenient hoax down the black &#8220;whore&#8221; (hat tip: NAACP)&#8230; hole, and it&#8217;s causing a backup that it is soiling one too many people&#8217;s reputations a la Clinton&#8217;s Water Closet.  So, who will they sacrifice to assure a stable of sustainable pretenses?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/03/29/illinois-prosecutors-are-mighty-angry-about-the-disposition-of-the-smollett-case/#comment-2429155</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Small tangent into press reliability (cough), which came up while I was trying to corroborate a rumor that Rahm Emanuel had back-tracked on his remarks about the case. This shows the Google links to the top two search results, which are clearly the same story.  It&#039;s an AP release in both cases, published by an NBC affiliater 13WTHR in Indianapolis.  The headlines are bolded; note the URLs are different.

The clips about Emanuel are different because the stories were almost entirely different in details and tone. Maybe they were written by different people at AP and they were pulled and published without reworking.  Maybe there were 2 people at WTHR writing off the same AP report, 9 hours apart.  
Support for two separate stories is given by the difference in URLs (unlike the example from Neo&#039;s post a couple of days ago about the veto override, where she changed the headline but the URL stayed the same).

I just thought it was curious.
(The clips about Trump are not in either story; I don&#039;t know why Google searches do that.)

https://www.google.com/search?q=emanuel+backtracks+smollett&#038;oq=emanuel+backtracks+smollett&#038;aqs=chrome..69i57.7241j0j7&#038;sourceid=chrome&#038;ie=UTF-8

&lt;b&gt;Smollett case tests relationship between police, prosecutors - National ...&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.wthr.com/.../smollett-case-tests-relationship-between-police-prosecutors
3 hours ago - Futterman questioned Emanuel&#039;s reaction to Smollett&#039;s case, saying the mayor ... Trump backtracks on call to gut $300M Great Lakes program.

&lt;b&gt;Upsides, downsides for Smollett, city in looming fines fight - National ...&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.wthr.com/article/upsides-downsides-smollett-city-looming-fines-fight
12 hours ago - Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who has said the false claims by Smollett damaged the ... Trump backtracks on call to gut $300M Great Lakes program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small tangent into press reliability (cough), which came up while I was trying to corroborate a rumor that Rahm Emanuel had back-tracked on his remarks about the case. This shows the Google links to the top two search results, which are clearly the same story.  It&#8217;s an AP release in both cases, published by an NBC affiliater 13WTHR in Indianapolis.  The headlines are bolded; note the URLs are different.</p>
<p>The clips about Emanuel are different because the stories were almost entirely different in details and tone. Maybe they were written by different people at AP and they were pulled and published without reworking.  Maybe there were 2 people at WTHR writing off the same AP report, 9 hours apart.<br />
Support for two separate stories is given by the difference in URLs (unlike the example from Neo&#8217;s post a couple of days ago about the veto override, where she changed the headline but the URL stayed the same).</p>
<p>I just thought it was curious.<br />
(The clips about Trump are not in either story; I don&#8217;t know why Google searches do that.)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=emanuel+backtracks+smollett&#038;oq=emanuel+backtracks+smollett&#038;aqs=chrome" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/search?q=emanuel+backtracks+smollett&#038;oq=emanuel+backtracks+smollett&#038;aqs=chrome</a>..69i57.7241j0j7&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8</p>
<p><b>Smollett case tests relationship between police, prosecutors &#8211; National &#8230;</b><br />
<a href="https://www.wthr.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wthr.com/</a>&#8230;/smollett-case-tests-relationship-between-police-prosecutors<br />
3 hours ago &#8211; Futterman questioned Emanuel&#8217;s reaction to Smollett&#8217;s case, saying the mayor &#8230; Trump backtracks on call to gut $300M Great Lakes program.</p>
<p><b>Upsides, downsides for Smollett, city in looming fines fight &#8211; National &#8230;</b><br />
<a href="https://www.wthr.com/article/upsides-downsides-smollett-city-looming-fines-fight" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wthr.com/article/upsides-downsides-smollett-city-looming-fines-fight</a><br />
12 hours ago &#8211; Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who has said the false claims by Smollett damaged the &#8230; Trump backtracks on call to gut $300M Great Lakes program.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr on March 30, 2019 at 11:00 am at 11:00 am said:
They were afraid of a riot…
* * *
In most situations involving black men and police, I would agree; but, in this one, the Smollettistas would NOT be supported by the police, there is NOT a united front in the upper echelons of government, and the Chicago press is NOT on Smollett&#039;s side. 

A brief follow-up to my reply to Manju above, about dismissing cases after indictment (and a few items contra the IPBA letter&#039;s assertions).

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-charges-dropped-records-sealed-court/
Saturday, March 30, 2019 

&quot;It’s not unusual for prosecutors to spot critical flaws in a case after charges are filed — alibis emerge, witnesses turn out to be unreliable, investigations can be tainted — but Foxx and her deputies, not to mention the CPD, were adamant that was not the case.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr on March 30, 2019 at 11:00 am at 11:00 am said:<br />
They were afraid of a riot…<br />
* * *<br />
In most situations involving black men and police, I would agree; but, in this one, the Smollettistas would NOT be supported by the police, there is NOT a united front in the upper echelons of government, and the Chicago press is NOT on Smollett&#8217;s side. </p>
<p>A brief follow-up to my reply to Manju above, about dismissing cases after indictment (and a few items contra the IPBA letter&#8217;s assertions).</p>
<p><a href="https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-charges-dropped-records-sealed-court/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-charges-dropped-records-sealed-court/</a><br />
Saturday, March 30, 2019 </p>
<p>&#8220;It’s not unusual for prosecutors to spot critical flaws in a case after charges are filed — alibis emerge, witnesses turn out to be unreliable, investigations can be tainted — but Foxx and her deputies, not to mention the CPD, were adamant that was not the case.&#8221;</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Manju:

I and plenty of other people have long been distrustful of jailhouse snitches who lie to get favors.  Or of people accused of crimes (not process &quot;crimes&quot; like borderline lying to the FBI that isn&#039;t even lying, but real crimes) who rat on the other perp in order to get off or to get a light sentence.  One must take their testimony with a grain of salt, but not discredit it totally particularly when there is other evidence.

There apparently was plenty of corroborating evidence here, and most definitely, unequivocally, enough of it to go to trial under any normal circumstance.

That is a far cry---a far far far cry---from starting an inquiry and getting people on process crimes related only to that inquiry and that interrogation, and squeezing them for the purpose of getting them to rat on a president. The potential for abuse is extraordinarily high there and the target is not a criminal, it is the elected president of the US.  That is a purely political act as well, because a president cannot be criminally tried while in office.  He can only be impeached, which is a political act of the legislature.  

What&#039;s more, I haven&#039;t seen a big push for the idea that Smollett should have been tried.  Most people weren&#039;t asking for that.  They don&#039;t think, however, he should have been essentially let off and not have to admit guilt.  In particular this is galling because they apparently had an excellent case against him and his crime was actually a very serious one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manju:</p>
<p>I and plenty of other people have long been distrustful of jailhouse snitches who lie to get favors.  Or of people accused of crimes (not process &#8220;crimes&#8221; like borderline lying to the FBI that isn&#8217;t even lying, but real crimes) who rat on the other perp in order to get off or to get a light sentence.  One must take their testimony with a grain of salt, but not discredit it totally particularly when there is other evidence.</p>
<p>There apparently was plenty of corroborating evidence here, and most definitely, unequivocally, enough of it to go to trial under any normal circumstance.</p>
<p>That is a far cry&#8212;a far far far cry&#8212;from starting an inquiry and getting people on process crimes related only to that inquiry and that interrogation, and squeezing them for the purpose of getting them to rat on a president. The potential for abuse is extraordinarily high there and the target is not a criminal, it is the elected president of the US.  That is a purely political act as well, because a president cannot be criminally tried while in office.  He can only be impeached, which is a political act of the legislature.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, I haven&#8217;t seen a big push for the idea that Smollett should have been tried.  Most people weren&#8217;t asking for that.  They don&#8217;t think, however, he should have been essentially let off and not have to admit guilt.  In particular this is galling because they apparently had an excellent case against him and his crime was actually a very serious one.</p>
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