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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/03/22/the-election-of-2020/#comment-2428389</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr on March 22, 2019 at 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm said:
in scientific American there is a great article from decades ago on the electoral college, and its math and was excellent…

you can not find it any more…
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Everything is on the internet except what they suppress.

The Gardner article is behind the SA paywall, but here is a good look at the things he wrote about.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-top-10-martin-gardner-scientific-american-articles/

FWIW, we used to take Scientific American, National Geographic, and American Heritage so we could keep up with the &quot;liberal arts&quot; after college.
We dropped all three when they got more interested in &quot;liberal propaganda&quot; back in the nineties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr on March 22, 2019 at 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm said:<br />
in scientific American there is a great article from decades ago on the electoral college, and its math and was excellent…</p>
<p>you can not find it any more…<br />
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<p>Everything is on the internet except what they suppress.</p>
<p>The Gardner article is behind the SA paywall, but here is a good look at the things he wrote about.</p>
<p><a href="https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-top-10-martin-gardner-scientific-american-articles/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-top-10-martin-gardner-scientific-american-articles/</a></p>
<p>FWIW, we used to take Scientific American, National Geographic, and American Heritage so we could keep up with the &#8220;liberal arts&#8221; after college.<br />
We dropped all three when they got more interested in &#8220;liberal propaganda&#8221; back in the nineties.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/03/22/the-election-of-2020/#comment-2428388</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chester Draws on March 22, 2019 at 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm said:
If popular vote matters, then red voters in deep blue states will have a reason to vote. And while few, they are in the most populous states, whereas there are fewer blue voters in deep red states.

Just because the popular vote went Hillary doesn’t, of itself, mean she would have won a popular vote.
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They will also have to count ALL of the absentee ballots, which some don&#039;t when the outcome cannot be affected even if all of them vote for the same candidate.
So, look for the Dems to do more to stifle the Military vote (past examples may or may not be in the internet anymore, but I remember them); &quot;lose&quot; ballots from areas they expect to go Red, and whatever else is needed.

But then, if the Popular Vote becomes the Totality of Elections, maybe Republicans will be less willing to roll over and (just for instance) agree to court orders that they &lt;em&gt;not contest elections&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chester Draws on March 22, 2019 at 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm said:<br />
If popular vote matters, then red voters in deep blue states will have a reason to vote. And while few, they are in the most populous states, whereas there are fewer blue voters in deep red states.</p>
<p>Just because the popular vote went Hillary doesn’t, of itself, mean she would have won a popular vote.<br />
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They will also have to count ALL of the absentee ballots, which some don&#8217;t when the outcome cannot be affected even if all of them vote for the same candidate.<br />
So, look for the Dems to do more to stifle the Military vote (past examples may or may not be in the internet anymore, but I remember them); &#8220;lose&#8221; ballots from areas they expect to go Red, and whatever else is needed.</p>
<p>But then, if the Popular Vote becomes the Totality of Elections, maybe Republicans will be less willing to roll over and (just for instance) agree to court orders that they <em>not contest elections</em>.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/03/22/the-election-of-2020/#comment-2428336</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;you ain’t seen nothing yet compared to what would be likely to happen if Trump wins a second term.

And if he were to win a second term by winning in the Electoral College and losing the popular vote once again, the Democrats will go stark raving mad squared.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; neo 

They&#039;ll try to assassinate him. Their fanaticism has now deepened to the point where they&#039;re incapable of accepting a fair defeat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;you ain’t seen nothing yet compared to what would be likely to happen if Trump wins a second term.</p>
<p>And if he were to win a second term by winning in the Electoral College and losing the popular vote once again, the Democrats will go stark raving mad squared.&#8221;</i> neo </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll try to assassinate him. Their fanaticism has now deepened to the point where they&#8217;re incapable of accepting a fair defeat.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The reason for the SCOTUS intervention was also because of the Florida Supreme Court and it’s atrocious decision. Their chief justice stated in his dissent that it was one of the worst decisions he’d ever presided over.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, and they should have stopped at the 7-2 decision on the Florida Supreme Court shenanigans.  I know the arguments about the vote count but it was politically unwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The reason for the SCOTUS intervention was also because of the Florida Supreme Court and it’s atrocious decision. Their chief justice stated in his dissent that it was one of the worst decisions he’d ever presided over.</i></p>
<p>Yes, and they should have stopped at the 7-2 decision on the Florida Supreme Court shenanigans.  I know the arguments about the vote count but it was politically unwise.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a nice way, Neo is saying what I strongly believe: The Democratic Party is peopled by power-mad totalitarians who seek the reduction of America to the level of another Belgium. The Dems will not be as civilized as the EU autocrats though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a nice way, Neo is saying what I strongly believe: The Democratic Party is peopled by power-mad totalitarians who seek the reduction of America to the level of another Belgium. The Dems will not be as civilized as the EU autocrats though.</p>
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		By: Dick Illyes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Howard Shultz will probably run and play a reverse Ross Perot.  There are no Democrats of any stature running, and their move left is a total loser outside their own echo chamber.

The voting public will be so sick of endless Democrat refusal to do anything but block Trump that he will take back the House.  Trump will ask the voters to give him legislators that will legislate, and they will comply.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard Shultz will probably run and play a reverse Ross Perot.  There are no Democrats of any stature running, and their move left is a total loser outside their own echo chamber.</p>
<p>The voting public will be so sick of endless Democrat refusal to do anything but block Trump that he will take back the House.  Trump will ask the voters to give him legislators that will legislate, and they will comply.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m predicting Trump wins the popular vote in 2020 -- because of nothingburger Mueller report AND great economy.  Yes, based partly on increasing national debt.

There will be lots of &quot;silent&quot; Trump supporters, who will even verbally agree with some critiques of him, to get along with liberal friends (and bosses), but still vote for him.

City vs country will be an ever-increasing problem for the rest of our lives -- unless (until?) cities win.  Reps need to find out how to get stronger in cities.

I think Job Guarantee, instead of UBI, will be politically required, so I advocate it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m predicting Trump wins the popular vote in 2020 &#8212; because of nothingburger Mueller report AND great economy.  Yes, based partly on increasing national debt.</p>
<p>There will be lots of &#8220;silent&#8221; Trump supporters, who will even verbally agree with some critiques of him, to get along with liberal friends (and bosses), but still vote for him.</p>
<p>City vs country will be an ever-increasing problem for the rest of our lives &#8212; unless (until?) cities win.  Reps need to find out how to get stronger in cities.</p>
<p>I think Job Guarantee, instead of UBI, will be politically required, so I advocate it.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 00:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chester Draws:

I think you have a point there, at least theoretically.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chester Draws:</p>
<p>I think you have a point there, at least theoretically.</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/03/22/the-election-of-2020/#comment-2428276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester Draws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If popular vote matters, then red voters in deep blue states will have a reason to vote. And while few, they are in the most populous states, whereas there are fewer blue voters in deep red states.

Just because the popular vote went Hillary doesn&#039;t, of itself, mean she would have won a popular vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If popular vote matters, then red voters in deep blue states will have a reason to vote. And while few, they are in the most populous states, whereas there are fewer blue voters in deep red states.</p>
<p>Just because the popular vote went Hillary doesn&#8217;t, of itself, mean she would have won a popular vote.</p>
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		By: OldTexan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great older friend of mine, emailed me last night and his prediction is the Democrats are launching such a circus of contenders that Trump, who he hates, he listed all Trumps faults, will win once more.  This man is retired, top law student in his class and nationally known for his meticulous work in his specialty and he also has family high up in the diplomatic circles in Washington.  Smartest man I know even if we don&#039;t see eye to eye on politics.

In his late 70&#039;s he said at least he won&#039;t have too many more years to worry about this stuff and our grandchildren will have to deal with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great older friend of mine, emailed me last night and his prediction is the Democrats are launching such a circus of contenders that Trump, who he hates, he listed all Trumps faults, will win once more.  This man is retired, top law student in his class and nationally known for his meticulous work in his specialty and he also has family high up in the diplomatic circles in Washington.  Smartest man I know even if we don&#8217;t see eye to eye on politics.</p>
<p>In his late 70&#8217;s he said at least he won&#8217;t have too many more years to worry about this stuff and our grandchildren will have to deal with it.</p>
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