Comments on: Marrying your soulmate

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Tue, 12 Mar 2019 03:25:10 +0000

ymarsakar – and divided into “tribes” very quickly to minimize the inbreeding.
Plus, if one assumes that Adam and Eve had “perfect” DNA, it takes awhile for any degeneration to happen.
Maybe that’s why it was called The Tree of the Knowledge of Good AND Evil.

By: ymarsakar

ymarsakar — Tue, 12 Mar 2019 01:55:22 +0000

Aesop, if Genesis is true, aren’t we all brothers and sisters as sons of Adam/Man?

Lol

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sun, 10 Mar 2019 04:43:42 +0000

Molly Brown on March 7, 2019 at 8:01 pm at 8:01 pm said:
Chuck,
Yes, smell! I went on many first dates that ended right there because my date smelled different. Not bad, mind you, just ‘different’.
And then there’s this – recently my husband, myself and other family members did 23me, and it turned out my husband (of thirty years) and my father are from the same haplogroup. Now what are the odds of that?
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The smell thing is well-attested, although kind of in a crazy way, but having women and men sniff sweaty clothing and indicate which of the owners would attact them more. There is also some research implicating pheromones in sexual attraction, which especially has links to why homosexuals prefer same-sex partners.

Not wanting to detract from your family story, but the odds are actually quite high.
It’s called Genetic Sexual Attraction, and it’s a DNA-based extension of the Old Wives’ Tale about men marrying women like their mother, and women marrying men like their father, carried to the extreme. Haplogroups would be a “marker” for “likeness.”

One of the strange consequences of opening adoption records and doing DNA tests is the stunning number of couples who discover they are related to each other. Or, when reunited after long separation, there are cases where a woman falls in love with her birth-father (or sometimes it’s brother-and-sister, or mother-and-son).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2147758/Forbidden-love-How-adults-reunite-lost-parents-risk-genetic-sexual-attraction.html

The phenomenon was first identified by Barbara Gonyo in the Eighties, after she a wrote book called I’m His Mother, But He’s Not My Son, which recounted her personal story of reuniting with the son she placed for adoption at 16.

A sexual relationship with her son ensued, and Ms Gonyo says she fell in love – a byproduct of delayed bonding that normally takes place in infancy between new parents and their child, according to psychologists.

Researchers believe that when family members grow up in close proximity, a inherent taboo is created through reverse sexual imprinting, which desensitises them to later sexual attraction.

Called the Westermarck effect, researchers hypothesize it evolved so biological relatives would not inbreed.

The inbreeding taboo was handled in tribal societies (who knew nothing about DNA, but could observe nature well) by specifying which clans could inter-marry so as to reduce the genetic linkages. And then there are the cultures which try to INCREASE the links with men preferentially marrying cousins or nieces.

In a reverse mode, you get the effect I read about happening in the Israeli kibbutzim, where the kids brought up in a group rather than in nuclear families ended up not wanting to get married to someone from the same kibbutz, even if they were not genetically related at all.

By: ymarsakar

ymarsakar — Fri, 08 Mar 2019 13:43:03 +0000

I used to think arranged marriages would rarely work. I imagined many lasted due to social pressures, but doubted the couples had a “true” love of one another. Then I got to know a friends’ parents whose marriage had been arranged by their parents, in Serbia. This couple thought it odd that people would leave something so important to random chance. They explained the logic of letting one’s parents choose. “Who knows you better, or loves you more?” And, obviously, since the future couples’ parents are married they know what’s required for success.

Rufus, in India they use the Vedic sciences to look at the chart compatibility of husband and wife. If there are indicators of crime, death, or inauspiciousness, the parents decide to cancel the engagement.

Arranged marriages work about as well as political marriages like the Clintons or the Obamas. I don’t refer to the quality, just the longevity due to divorce.

By: Mrs Whatsit

Mrs Whatsit — Fri, 08 Mar 2019 01:40:12 +0000

Molly Brown, what a wonderful story!

By: David Foster

David Foster — Fri, 08 Mar 2019 01:08:11 +0000

There’s some research suggesting that women *subconsciously* perceive some of a man’s immune-system characteristics and tend to be more attracted to those who have different, ie complementary, immune systems. I guess this would make evolutionary sense if resulting children combine in someway whatever knowledge is imbedded in the two immune system characteristics.

Don’t know how strong the effect is—there’s a long distance between “statistically significant” and “really important.”

By: Molly Brown

Molly Brown — Fri, 08 Mar 2019 01:01:21 +0000

Chuck,
Yes, smell! I went on many first dates that ended right there because my date smelled different. Not bad, mind you, just ‘different’.
And then there’s this – recently my husband, myself and other family members did 23me, and it turned out my husband (of thirty years) and my father are from the same haplogroup. Now what are the odds of that? Maybe 23me should offer a dating service!
Enjoying all the song contributions. Apropos of that is one of my most cherished memories of my wonderful daughter. We were on the way home from kindergarten where she had a budding romance with a boy named Carl (‘From kiddie car to hearse, darling’*). Sinatra’s ‘Strangers in the Night’ came on the radio and after the lines;
‘Something in your eyes, was so exciting,
Something in your smile, was so inviting,
Something in my heart,
Told me I must have you’
A very quiet voice from the back seat said; ‘That must be what Carl thought when he saw me…’
I laughed all the way home.
*Nancy Mitford – Love In A Cold Climate

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Thu, 07 Mar 2019 10:47:47 +0000

Then, of course, there’s also “love at first bite”—

(Since it has oft been noted that the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach….which is also, no doubt, meant to serve as a warning.)

In any event, if the fundamentals are generally observed, then marriage may indeed be “a piece of cake”. Absence of a sense of humor, or playful nature—well, maybe not too, too playful—may, on the other hand, prove fatal…:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6781133/Newlywed-husband-SLAPS-wife-shocked-wedding-guests.html

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Thu, 07 Mar 2019 05:02:31 +0000

I had some friends many years ago who first saw each other across a crowded room, but they took that as an inspiration to get acquainted, not as a final verdict on getting married (which they did later anyway).

Some enchanted evening – South Pacific

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGyfw3yiMT4

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Thu, 07 Mar 2019 04:54:13 +0000

My Cup Runneth Over (From the Musical Production “I Do, I Do”) · Ed Ames

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVbxq8h1BI

Ed Ames – Try To Remember (Fantasticks) still a great voice at 87

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5wth6xrwbo