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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425238</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On paper, India has the advantage. Elections in India will color how she responds. Let&#039;s hope she holds back. Nuclear war is not a pretty affair. Push comes to shove the Pakistani have to go nuclear. They are the weaker power. A conered rat is a dangerous foe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On paper, India has the advantage. Elections in India will color how she responds. Let&#8217;s hope she holds back. Nuclear war is not a pretty affair. Push comes to shove the Pakistani have to go nuclear. They are the weaker power. A conered rat is a dangerous foe.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unless forced to do so, Islam does not recognize itself as being subject to International Laws and, even when forced to do so it views yielding to that force to be a temporary condition. 

Just like China does not recognize the World Court&#039;s ruling that its actions in the South China Sea illegally violate International Laws and treaties to which it is a party. 

Of course, both China and Islam do recognize and support  International Law when it happens to favor their interests. 

And both reject the charge of hypocrisy, justifying that rejection as the natural province of their inherently superior ideology. As by definition, all totalitarian ideologies proclaim themselves to be the ONLY valid set of beliefs. 

Which is why those who imagine that China&#039;s ideologues value money over ideology are profoundly mistaken. Ideologues do not worship at the altar of Mammon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless forced to do so, Islam does not recognize itself as being subject to International Laws and, even when forced to do so it views yielding to that force to be a temporary condition. </p>
<p>Just like China does not recognize the World Court&#8217;s ruling that its actions in the South China Sea illegally violate International Laws and treaties to which it is a party. </p>
<p>Of course, both China and Islam do recognize and support  International Law when it happens to favor their interests. </p>
<p>And both reject the charge of hypocrisy, justifying that rejection as the natural province of their inherently superior ideology. As by definition, all totalitarian ideologies proclaim themselves to be the ONLY valid set of beliefs. </p>
<p>Which is why those who imagine that China&#8217;s ideologues value money over ideology are profoundly mistaken. Ideologues do not worship at the altar of Mammon.</p>
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		By: Michael Lonie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Lonie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 04:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What sparked this off was a Muslim suicide bombing that killed dozens of Indian soldiers. The Indians then bombed a terrorist training camp in Pakistani Kashmir, killing some 300 there.

Sovereign states are obliged, under international law, to prevent their territory from being used as a base for attacking neighboring state. Pakistan ought to suppress such activity, but it actually supports it. The Pakistani intel organization, ISI, organizes and supports the terrorist activities in Kashmir, elsewhere in India, and in Afghanistan. Given that Pakistan is not carrying out it obligations, India has the right to chase the terrorists and destroy them in their sanctuaries in Pakistan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What sparked this off was a Muslim suicide bombing that killed dozens of Indian soldiers. The Indians then bombed a terrorist training camp in Pakistani Kashmir, killing some 300 there.</p>
<p>Sovereign states are obliged, under international law, to prevent their territory from being used as a base for attacking neighboring state. Pakistan ought to suppress such activity, but it actually supports it. The Pakistani intel organization, ISI, organizes and supports the terrorist activities in Kashmir, elsewhere in India, and in Afghanistan. Given that Pakistan is not carrying out it obligations, India has the right to chase the terrorists and destroy them in their sanctuaries in Pakistan.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post at CNN has a good map of the region; seems to be a straight-forward news report. Via PowerLine headlines.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/27/india/india-pakistan-strikes-escalation-intl/index.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post at CNN has a good map of the region; seems to be a straight-forward news report. Via PowerLine headlines.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/27/india/india-pakistan-strikes-escalation-intl/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/27/india/india-pakistan-strikes-escalation-intl/index.html</a></p>
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		By: Philip		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425175</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 00:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It makes me nervous to see anybody named Khan involved in any brouhaha with doomsday weapons, Asian land wars, etc. Is it just me?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me nervous to see anybody named Khan involved in any brouhaha with doomsday weapons, Asian land wars, etc. Is it just me?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 22:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Other than Kashmir, which used to be ruled by Hindu pandits, I don&#039;t think India actually wants Pakistani territory, which might argue against any kind of invasion triggering a nuclear response.  Hindus who fled Punjab and Bengal at the partition have pretty much settled into new homes.  I didn&#039;t hear anything about a &quot;right of return&quot; like that which is proposed for Arabs who fled the Israeli founding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than Kashmir, which used to be ruled by Hindu pandits, I don&#8217;t think India actually wants Pakistani territory, which might argue against any kind of invasion triggering a nuclear response.  Hindus who fled Punjab and Bengal at the partition have pretty much settled into new homes.  I didn&#8217;t hear anything about a &#8220;right of return&#8221; like that which is proposed for Arabs who fled the Israeli founding.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Oldflyer.  I knew Christians in India.  Many came from formerly Dalit, that is, untouchable, families.  The ones I knew were all acquainted with someone who had been beaten, or killed.  Evangelism was dangerous.  This applies to all the Protestant groups; Catholics also are mistreated, but fare a little better because many early Catholic converts came from formerly Brahmin families, with higher status.  Indians still know what caste people spring from and react accordingly.

Hindus in the US whom many of us know are not a danger to Indian Christians here.  These immigrants come from educated classes.  They probably would not marry Indian Christians, but the mob violence aimed at Christians in India does not come from these educated families in general.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Oldflyer.  I knew Christians in India.  Many came from formerly Dalit, that is, untouchable, families.  The ones I knew were all acquainted with someone who had been beaten, or killed.  Evangelism was dangerous.  This applies to all the Protestant groups; Catholics also are mistreated, but fare a little better because many early Catholic converts came from formerly Brahmin families, with higher status.  Indians still know what caste people spring from and react accordingly.</p>
<p>Hindus in the US whom many of us know are not a danger to Indian Christians here.  These immigrants come from educated classes.  They probably would not marry Indian Christians, but the mob violence aimed at Christians in India does not come from these educated families in general.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 22:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oldflyer...my sense is that if either India OR Pakistan had full control of Kashmir there would be wholesale relocation (or genocide) of the &quot;other.&quot; Hindus have no problem persecuting non-Hindus and Muslims...well...we know what they do to infidels.

I don&#039;t believe either nation &quot;wants&quot; a full on shooting war...but they&#039;re both on edge enough to get what they don&#039;t want. I have read locally (as Australia has something of an interest in what goes on in that sort of proximity) that India&#039;s standing armed forces are supposed to be better than Pakistan&#039;s but Pakistan has a default &quot;nuke&quot; Plan B C or D...They actually have a nuclear option true to its name. I&#039;ll hunt around to see if I can find that source...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldflyer&#8230;my sense is that if either India OR Pakistan had full control of Kashmir there would be wholesale relocation (or genocide) of the &#8220;other.&#8221; Hindus have no problem persecuting non-Hindus and Muslims&#8230;well&#8230;we know what they do to infidels.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe either nation &#8220;wants&#8221; a full on shooting war&#8230;but they&#8217;re both on edge enough to get what they don&#8217;t want. I have read locally (as Australia has something of an interest in what goes on in that sort of proximity) that India&#8217;s standing armed forces are supposed to be better than Pakistan&#8217;s but Pakistan has a default &#8220;nuke&#8221; Plan B C or D&#8230;They actually have a nuclear option true to its name. I&#8217;ll hunt around to see if I can find that source&#8230;</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425129</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oldflyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not sure what it is that India finds so valuable in Kashmir.   It appears that the assignment to India in 1947 was pretty arbitrary.  With a Sunni majority, it will always be a problem for India.

At this point, of course, if Pakistan attained control, the entire Hindu population would probably have to be relocated.

Off topic sort of.  A significant percentage of the staff, mostly MDs,  at my SoCal medical provider is Indian origin.  One time I was talking to a Nurse who told me her family were Christians in India.  I asked how they fared with their Hindu and Muslim neighbors; and she said they lived only in protective enclaves.  Of course, like the ghettos of Poland, those could easily become death traps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what it is that India finds so valuable in Kashmir.   It appears that the assignment to India in 1947 was pretty arbitrary.  With a Sunni majority, it will always be a problem for India.</p>
<p>At this point, of course, if Pakistan attained control, the entire Hindu population would probably have to be relocated.</p>
<p>Off topic sort of.  A significant percentage of the staff, mostly MDs,  at my SoCal medical provider is Indian origin.  One time I was talking to a Nurse who told me her family were Christians in India.  I asked how they fared with their Hindu and Muslim neighbors; and she said they lived only in protective enclaves.  Of course, like the ghettos of Poland, those could easily become death traps.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/27/something-going-on-between-india-and-pakistan/#comment-2425128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am reminded of spending Thanksgiving with my brother&#039;s family when the hotel in Bombay got bombed. My comment: &quot;The work of ISI.[Pakistani intelligence agency]&quot; Which is what it turned out to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of spending Thanksgiving with my brother&#8217;s family when the hotel in Bombay got bombed. My comment: &#8220;The work of ISI.[Pakistani intelligence agency]&#8221; Which is what it turned out to be.</p>
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