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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/dems_long_knives_unsheathed_on_ocasiocortez_on_emmeet_the_pressem.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article on Sandy-O&lt;/a&gt; and the push-back from Dems like Chuck Todd and de Blasio.  Then I saw the actual video clip on TV that they are responding to.  I don&#039;t have a link.

Sandy-O said something like:  &quot;There are so many better things that this $3B could have been spent on, such as education …&quot;

This is really a profound level of ignorance.  The plan, for the future, was that Amazon was going to pay a large amount of taxes instead of a huge amount of taxes; and that savings to Amazon amounted to $3B.  All contingent on Amazon actually coming to NY.

As de Blasio said, &quot;There is no $3B.&quot;

One of the commenters said that while Sandy-O may have taken an economics course, her major was IR, International Relations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s <a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/dems_long_knives_unsheathed_on_ocasiocortez_on_emmeet_the_pressem.html" rel="nofollow">this article on Sandy-O</a> and the push-back from Dems like Chuck Todd and de Blasio.  Then I saw the actual video clip on TV that they are responding to.  I don&#8217;t have a link.</p>
<p>Sandy-O said something like:  &#8220;There are so many better things that this $3B could have been spent on, such as education …&#8221;</p>
<p>This is really a profound level of ignorance.  The plan, for the future, was that Amazon was going to pay a large amount of taxes instead of a huge amount of taxes; and that savings to Amazon amounted to $3B.  All contingent on Amazon actually coming to NY.</p>
<p>As de Blasio said, &#8220;There is no $3B.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the commenters said that while Sandy-O may have taken an economics course, her major was IR, International Relations.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2019 04:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aesop,  

And now I&#039;ll have a double mug of hemlock tea to go with my arsenic-buttered toast, please.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesop,  </p>
<p>And now I&#8217;ll have a double mug of hemlock tea to go with my arsenic-buttered toast, please.</p>
<p>:&gt;(</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2019 03:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of the French Revolution....Victor Davis Hanson does it very well.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/remodeling-america-modern-day-jacobins/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the French Revolution&#8230;.Victor Davis Hanson does it very well.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/remodeling-america-modern-day-jacobins/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/remodeling-america-modern-day-jacobins/</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K:

Please see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2016/05/21/the-tyranny-of-virtue-robespierre-and-the-reign-of-terror/&quot;&gt;this post of mine&lt;/a&gt; on Robespierre and the tyranny of &quot;virtue.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K:</p>
<p>Please see <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2016/05/21/the-tyranny-of-virtue-robespierre-and-the-reign-of-terror/">this post of mine</a> on Robespierre and the tyranny of &#8220;virtue.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cicero, I think there is something to the comparison with Robespierre. I have read quite a bit about him and  the French Revolution.  He was a militant prude. There is no record of him ever showing an interest in women or any sort of domestic life Danton had a wife and three sons.  Robespierre had a brother and two sisters but never showed any interest in anything but politics.  His ambition was to establish a &quot;Republic of Virtue.&quot;  The intolerant left today does reassemble him somewhat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cicero, I think there is something to the comparison with Robespierre. I have read quite a bit about him and  the French Revolution.  He was a militant prude. There is no record of him ever showing an interest in women or any sort of domestic life Danton had a wife and three sons.  Robespierre had a brother and two sisters but never showed any interest in anything but politics.  His ambition was to establish a &#8220;Republic of Virtue.&#8221;  The intolerant left today does reassemble him somewhat.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Left is not &quot;eating its own.&quot;

The Left is more and more resembling the French Revolution of 1793, whose early rebels included Lafayette and others who sought to emulate the American Revolution. That of course ended with Robespierre and the mindless slaughter of tens of thousands of the bourgeoisie, including killing forcibly assembled throngs of French men and women with cannon grapeshot because the guillotines could not keep up.

The ascendancy of AOC, Omar and the like is a similar shift. They intend to kill us figuratively and literally, by GND, socialism&#039;s obscene excesses, and stuff and nonsense. The Liebermans and Humphreys are long gone; the Pelosis and Schumers are trying to stay in the lead lest they too get overrun by the raging, racing mob, like a tsunami, behind them, a tsunami of their own creation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left is not &#8220;eating its own.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Left is more and more resembling the French Revolution of 1793, whose early rebels included Lafayette and others who sought to emulate the American Revolution. That of course ended with Robespierre and the mindless slaughter of tens of thousands of the bourgeoisie, including killing forcibly assembled throngs of French men and women with cannon grapeshot because the guillotines could not keep up.</p>
<p>The ascendancy of AOC, Omar and the like is a similar shift. They intend to kill us figuratively and literally, by GND, socialism&#8217;s obscene excesses, and stuff and nonsense. The Liebermans and Humphreys are long gone; the Pelosis and Schumers are trying to stay in the lead lest they too get overrun by the raging, racing mob, like a tsunami, behind them, a tsunami of their own creation.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie near Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 06:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must say I agree with Kai on the merit of manju&#039;s comment.  On February 16, 2019 at 9:59 am at 9:59 am, Kai wrote:

&lt;em&gt;Do I have to teach you your own principles?&lt;/em&gt; –Manju

Tell it, Manju. It’s hard to know which side is being stupider on this. But this is where excess taxation and deficits lead — to negotiations in which only power and dollars talk, the principles left long ago.

.

Meanwhile, from Artfldgr:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Carolyn Maloney (D) Slams Ocasio-Cortez’s Opposition to Amazon: ‘Now We Are Protesting Jobs?’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&#038;v=nnVS-Zah54k   &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for the link, Artfl.

Especially since &quot;Donkey Chompers&quot; (great appellation, Deco!  She comes close to being horse-faced in fact) managed to winkle Ms. Maloney&#039;s constuency right out of their crack at all those jobs.  (&lt;strong&gt;IF&lt;/strong&gt; in fact that is the case.  I&#039;m taking her word for it.)

.

Tax breaks as incentives for businesses to operate in locales offering them:


Communities of all sizes are gung-ho to offer tax breaks in order to get businesses to open up operations in their towns.  Sometimes it works out well, but often enough it just creates problems.   Still, if in the long run the community is ahead financially, whether as a jurisdiction benefitting from increased tax revenue OR, more importantly, as individuals in the community improve their health -- financial, emotional, or physical -- because of the new operation, with the rest of the community not unhappy about it, then I don&#039;t see a problem with it in today&#039;s real world.

The simple reason for not offering tax breaks to businesses already in operation in the district is simply that there&#039;s no need to offer incentives to get them to locate there -- as is obvious.  The taxing authority, however, should feel itself incentivized to decrease, or at least not to increase, the tax burden on resident business;  and also on the individuals in the jurisdiction.  Lest these concerns and people go elsewhere, as is notably happening in my Great-Frog-forsaken state of ILL-inois.  (There are many people protesting our state govt.&#039;s policies that are driving away businesses and residents ... and taking their dough with them, thus diminishing the tax base.)
.

Personally, I still believe there are other ways to pay for the necessary-and-proper operations of government than through taxation, and I include tariffs in that.  I won&#039;t get into here, though.  It&#039;s certainly not going to happen in our lifetimes, and likely not in the next millenium.  But it&#039;s also the Holy Grail of true libertarianism, and one of the things we all should be supporting and, depending on our circumstances and personal proclivities, working toward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I agree with Kai on the merit of manju&#8217;s comment.  On February 16, 2019 at 9:59 am at 9:59 am, Kai wrote:</p>
<p><em>Do I have to teach you your own principles?</em> –Manju</p>
<p>Tell it, Manju. It’s hard to know which side is being stupider on this. But this is where excess taxation and deficits lead — to negotiations in which only power and dollars talk, the principles left long ago.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, from Artfldgr:</p>
<blockquote><p>Carolyn Maloney (D) Slams Ocasio-Cortez’s Opposition to Amazon: ‘Now We Are Protesting Jobs?’</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&#038;v=nnVS-Zah54k" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&#038;v=nnVS-Zah54k</a>   </p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for the link, Artfl.</p>
<p>Especially since &#8220;Donkey Chompers&#8221; (great appellation, Deco!  She comes close to being horse-faced in fact) managed to winkle Ms. Maloney&#8217;s constuency right out of their crack at all those jobs.  (<strong>IF</strong> in fact that is the case.  I&#8217;m taking her word for it.)</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Tax breaks as incentives for businesses to operate in locales offering them:</p>
<p>Communities of all sizes are gung-ho to offer tax breaks in order to get businesses to open up operations in their towns.  Sometimes it works out well, but often enough it just creates problems.   Still, if in the long run the community is ahead financially, whether as a jurisdiction benefitting from increased tax revenue OR, more importantly, as individuals in the community improve their health &#8212; financial, emotional, or physical &#8212; because of the new operation, with the rest of the community not unhappy about it, then I don&#8217;t see a problem with it in today&#8217;s real world.</p>
<p>The simple reason for not offering tax breaks to businesses already in operation in the district is simply that there&#8217;s no need to offer incentives to get them to locate there &#8212; as is obvious.  The taxing authority, however, should feel itself incentivized to decrease, or at least not to increase, the tax burden on resident business;  and also on the individuals in the jurisdiction.  Lest these concerns and people go elsewhere, as is notably happening in my Great-Frog-forsaken state of ILL-inois.  (There are many people protesting our state govt.&#8217;s policies that are driving away businesses and residents &#8230; and taking their dough with them, thus diminishing the tax base.)<br />
.</p>
<p>Personally, I still believe there are other ways to pay for the necessary-and-proper operations of government than through taxation, and I include tariffs in that.  I won&#8217;t get into here, though.  It&#8217;s certainly not going to happen in our lifetimes, and likely not in the next millenium.  But it&#8217;s also the Holy Grail of true libertarianism, and one of the things we all should be supporting and, depending on our circumstances and personal proclivities, working toward.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2019 21:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do your remember when Richard Nixon (who had overdue legal bills) was chastised for accepting $600,000 for 29 hours of unstructured interviews with David Frost?  (A contextually similar sum today would be about $4,000,000).   People like James Fallows (Harvard &#039;68) pretended to find it an example of Mr. Nixon&#039;s indelibly crass character (&quot;who else would have asked for a fee?&quot;).  Mr. Fallows offered any complaints about the amount of cash the Clintons, Gores, and Obamas have been hoovering up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do your remember when Richard Nixon (who had overdue legal bills) was chastised for accepting $600,000 for 29 hours of unstructured interviews with David Frost?  (A contextually similar sum today would be about $4,000,000).   People like James Fallows (Harvard &#8217;68) pretended to find it an example of Mr. Nixon&#8217;s indelibly crass character (&#8220;who else would have asked for a fee?&#8221;).  Mr. Fallows offered any complaints about the amount of cash the Clintons, Gores, and Obamas have been hoovering up?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2019 21:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill M on February 16, 2019 at 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm said:
...
The usual ploy of demagogues from Huey Long to Obama is to point at the kooks and claim if you don’t give the demagogues what they want, the kooks will take power.
* * *
I&#039;m trying to flip that to the Republican side and having some trouble.
Generically, the closet-socialists (demagogues pretending to be centrists) will point to the open-socialists (kooks) and make threats, then deliver what the open-socialists were advocating anyway (at least in the most recent iteration).

We don&#039;t have any closet-conservatives (pretending to be centrists) pointing to open-conservatives, making threats, and then delivering &lt;em&gt;conservative &lt;/em&gt;policies.
What we seem to have instead are &lt;em&gt;centrists pretending to be conservatives,&lt;/em&gt; and threatening us with real ones, then delivering socialist policies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill M on February 16, 2019 at 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm said:<br />
&#8230;<br />
The usual ploy of demagogues from Huey Long to Obama is to point at the kooks and claim if you don’t give the demagogues what they want, the kooks will take power.<br />
* * *<br />
I&#8217;m trying to flip that to the Republican side and having some trouble.<br />
Generically, the closet-socialists (demagogues pretending to be centrists) will point to the open-socialists (kooks) and make threats, then deliver what the open-socialists were advocating anyway (at least in the most recent iteration).</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have any closet-conservatives (pretending to be centrists) pointing to open-conservatives, making threats, and then delivering <em>conservative </em>policies.<br />
What we seem to have instead are <em>centrists pretending to be conservatives,</em> and threatening us with real ones, then delivering socialist policies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2019 21:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most socialism is driven by envy.&quot; - Tom Grey

&quot;Thou shalt not covet&quot; is a pretty old recognition of human nature.

The Commandments also note humanity&#039;s endemic problem with &quot;Thou shalt not bear false witness.&quot;

Recent examples abound; we&#039;ll see how this latest one plays out.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/two_nigerian_immigrants_to_be_charged_for_jussie_smollett_hate_crime.html)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most socialism is driven by envy.&#8221; &#8211; Tom Grey</p>
<p>&#8220;Thou shalt not covet&#8221; is a pretty old recognition of human nature.</p>
<p>The Commandments also note humanity&#8217;s endemic problem with &#8220;Thou shalt not bear false witness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Recent examples abound; we&#8217;ll see how this latest one plays out.<br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/two_nigerian_immigrants_to_be_charged_for_jussie_smollett_hate_crime.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/two_nigerian_immigrants_to_be_charged_for_jussie_smollett_hate_crime.html</a>)</p>
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