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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://amgreatness.com/2019/02/08/attack-of-the-watermelon-people/

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Supposedly, the “Green New Deal” is “green” because it would help the environment. But a close reading of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s proposed resolution reveals a deal that looks more red than green.

The freshman congresswoman from New York released more specifics of her sweeping idea this week. In simpler times, we called extreme environmentalists “watermelons,” because they were green (environmentalists) on the outside, but red (socialist or communist) on the inside. Ocasio-Cortez, her Green New Deal, and all her fellow travelers, are watermelons through and through.

Almost everything about Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is wrong. The premises, the priorities, and the “solutions.” It’s easy, and necessary, to criticize the priorities and the solutions proposed by this very red, outwardly green plan. But to have a completely honest debate, you also have to challenge the premises.
...
It isn’t enough to question the economic absurdity of the Green New Deal. A rational response would be to assert that it doesn’t matter how much it costs. For this reason it is necessary as well to reinvigorate the scientific debate over just how serious climate change is likely to be, what the causes are for climate change, and what the cost/benefits are of various strategies.

One thing is certain: The path of the Watermelon people is a road to poverty and tyranny. There are far better ways to achieve a more universal prosperity, while helping vulnerable communities and vulnerable ecosystems, all over the world.
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Supposedly, the “Green New Deal” is “green” because it would help the environment. But a close reading of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s proposed resolution reveals a deal that looks more red than green.</p>
<p>The freshman congresswoman from New York released more specifics of her sweeping idea this week. In simpler times, we called extreme environmentalists “watermelons,” because they were green (environmentalists) on the outside, but red (socialist or communist) on the inside. Ocasio-Cortez, her Green New Deal, and all her fellow travelers, are watermelons through and through.</p>
<p>Almost everything about Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is wrong. The premises, the priorities, and the “solutions.” It’s easy, and necessary, to criticize the priorities and the solutions proposed by this very red, outwardly green plan. But to have a completely honest debate, you also have to challenge the premises.<br />
&#8230;<br />
It isn’t enough to question the economic absurdity of the Green New Deal. A rational response would be to assert that it doesn’t matter how much it costs. For this reason it is necessary as well to reinvigorate the scientific debate over just how serious climate change is likely to be, what the causes are for climate change, and what the cost/benefits are of various strategies.</p>
<p>One thing is certain: The path of the Watermelon people is a road to poverty and tyranny. There are far better ways to achieve a more universal prosperity, while helping vulnerable communities and vulnerable ecosystems, all over the world.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2019 04:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo on February 9, 2019 at 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm said:
AesopFan:

They will come up with something else.

Or they will just push the target date into the future.
* * *
Guaranteed.

A song for you, inspired by one of the pix at PowerLine today:
https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/02/IMG_9406.jpg?w=965&#038;ssl=1


Young AOC had a farm - EIEIO
and on that farm she had a cow - EIEIO.
With a f*rt f*rt here, a f*rt f*rtthere, here a f*rt,  there a f*rt, 
everywhere a f*rt f*rt.
Young AOC had a farm - EIEI eeuugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo on February 9, 2019 at 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm said:<br />
AesopFan:</p>
<p>They will come up with something else.</p>
<p>Or they will just push the target date into the future.<br />
* * *<br />
Guaranteed.</p>
<p>A song for you, inspired by one of the pix at PowerLine today:<br />
<a href="https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/02/IMG_9406.jpg?w=965&#038;ssl=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/02/IMG_9406.jpg?w=965&#038;ssl=1</a></p>
<p>Young AOC had a farm &#8211; EIEIO<br />
and on that farm she had a cow &#8211; EIEIO.<br />
With a f*rt f*rt here, a f*rt f*rtthere, here a f*rt,  there a f*rt,<br />
everywhere a f*rt f*rt.<br />
Young AOC had a farm &#8211; EIEI eeuugh.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regeneration x 2, like the heads of the Hydra.

Where is Hercules when you need him!

(Per the Great Foot, the &quot;regeneration&quot; bit is a late embellishment on the original story.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regeneration x 2, like the heads of the Hydra.</p>
<p>Where is Hercules when you need him!</p>
<p>(Per the Great Foot, the &#8220;regeneration&#8221; bit is a late embellishment on the original story.)</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

They will come up with something else.

Or they will just push the target date into the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>They will come up with something else.</p>
<p>Or they will just push the target date into the future.</p>
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		By: Lee Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These people do not seem to understand basic biology. If we rid the planet of livestock and make everyone vegan, they are ignoring the fact that some land is just not worth cultivating. There is a place for livestock in our ecosystem. Granted our current system needs improvement (not elimination) - check on Alan Savory&#039;s livestock management technique and Gabe Brown&#039;s &quot;Dirt to Soil&quot; for what our family considers good management practices that return carbon to the soil. We live on a farm so we have some experience in this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people do not seem to understand basic biology. If we rid the planet of livestock and make everyone vegan, they are ignoring the fact that some land is just not worth cultivating. There is a place for livestock in our ecosystem. Granted our current system needs improvement (not elimination) &#8211; check on Alan Savory&#8217;s livestock management technique and Gabe Brown&#8217;s &#8220;Dirt to Soil&#8221; for what our family considers good management practices that return carbon to the soil. We live on a farm so we have some experience in this.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When we are all still alive in 2030 despite NOT enacting most of their draconian demands, will the Left then sit down and shut up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we are all still alive in 2030 despite NOT enacting most of their draconian demands, will the Left then sit down and shut up?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[physicsguy on February 8, 2019 at 9:31 am at 9:31 am said:
“She isn’t dangerous. She’s a goof.”
...
Don’t underestimate these people. They are FAR from “goofs”.
* * *
Wise words of warning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physicsguy on February 8, 2019 at 9:31 am at 9:31 am said:<br />
“She isn’t dangerous. She’s a goof.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
Don’t underestimate these people. They are FAR from “goofs”.<br />
* * *<br />
Wise words of warning.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/07/what-the-green-new-deal-wants-to-eliminate-the-nuclear-power-plant-and-then-the-cow-fart/#comment-2422567</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K on February 8, 2019 at 2:45 pm at 2:45 pm said:
...
I was exaggerating a bit about high school but none of these people seem to have a sense of reality, math or physics or economics. There is an interesting post by John Derbyshire about Charles Murray and statistics.
...
Few people understand statistics, let alone Bayes Theorem.

I doubt any are politicians.
* * *
I just finished Murray&#039;s &quot;Human Accomplishment&quot; and recommend it very highly.  Murray makes even the driest data interesting, and explains the statistical methods quite clearly.
Even a politician could follow, but most of them wouldn&#039;t read Murray if you paid them to, being as he&#039;s that old h8er.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K on February 8, 2019 at 2:45 pm at 2:45 pm said:<br />
&#8230;<br />
I was exaggerating a bit about high school but none of these people seem to have a sense of reality, math or physics or economics. There is an interesting post by John Derbyshire about Charles Murray and statistics.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Few people understand statistics, let alone Bayes Theorem.</p>
<p>I doubt any are politicians.<br />
* * *<br />
I just finished Murray&#8217;s &#8220;Human Accomplishment&#8221; and recommend it very highly.  Murray makes even the driest data interesting, and explains the statistical methods quite clearly.<br />
Even a politician could follow, but most of them wouldn&#8217;t read Murray if you paid them to, being as he&#8217;s that old h8er.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John on February 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm said:
If this Green New Deal is such a great idea, maybe New York City (far left Democrat mayor) in New York State (leftist Democrat governor) and AOC also from New York could try it there first and show us how it is done. Enact the new 70% tax on Wall Street to finance it. Shut down JFK and La Guardia. Convert all the housing in NYC to be green. It should be fun to watch.
* * *
Aren&#039;t the states (or in this case, city-states) supposed to be the laboratory of democracy?
The biggest blunders in US history have been federal because they are not tried out on a smaller scale before being imposed nationally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John on February 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm said:<br />
If this Green New Deal is such a great idea, maybe New York City (far left Democrat mayor) in New York State (leftist Democrat governor) and AOC also from New York could try it there first and show us how it is done. Enact the new 70% tax on Wall Street to finance it. Shut down JFK and La Guardia. Convert all the housing in NYC to be green. It should be fun to watch.<br />
* * *<br />
Aren&#8217;t the states (or in this case, city-states) supposed to be the laboratory of democracy?<br />
The biggest blunders in US history have been federal because they are not tried out on a smaller scale before being imposed nationally.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey on February 8, 2019 at 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm said:
There’s an old saying I made up. “The farther out the outliers lie, the farther out the inliers can lie without being outliers.”

AOC is so far out that being half that bad might seem reasonable.
* * *
Sounds like a description of the shifting of the Overton Window.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey on February 8, 2019 at 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm said:<br />
There’s an old saying I made up. “The farther out the outliers lie, the farther out the inliers can lie without being outliers.”</p>
<p>AOC is so far out that being half that bad might seem reasonable.<br />
* * *<br />
Sounds like a description of the shifting of the Overton Window.</p>
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