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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/05/nys-museum-of-modern-art-is-getting-a-pc-makeover/#comment-2422187</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley on February 7, 2019 at 12:33 am at 12:33 am said:
...I saw something similar in 1974. A 2×8 painted blue and displayed leaning against a white museum wall. The title:

There’s no reason not to

I give the sculptor credit for deconstructing everybody.
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I got my BS in 1974 and remember similar works displayed in the college art gallery, and I wondered, &quot;Where&#039;s the Art?&quot; 
At the time, I had not heard about deconstruction, post-modernism, &quot;critical theory&quot; and their ilk (STEM major), and PC was not yet a &quot;thing&quot; -- I wonder if the art world was in advance of the political wave or surfing it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley on February 7, 2019 at 12:33 am at 12:33 am said:<br />
&#8230;I saw something similar in 1974. A 2×8 painted blue and displayed leaning against a white museum wall. The title:</p>
<p>There’s no reason not to</p>
<p>I give the sculptor credit for deconstructing everybody.<br />
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I got my BS in 1974 and remember similar works displayed in the college art gallery, and I wondered, &#8220;Where&#8217;s the Art?&#8221;<br />
At the time, I had not heard about deconstruction, post-modernism, &#8220;critical theory&#8221; and their ilk (STEM major), and PC was not yet a &#8220;thing&#8221; &#8212; I wonder if the art world was in advance of the political wave or surfing it?</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/05/nys-museum-of-modern-art-is-getting-a-pc-makeover/#comment-2422132</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;My last trip to MoMA was 20 years ago where I viewed 3-2×4 pieces of wood about 30? long nailed together, crudely painted white with most of the nails bent over hanging on a piece of silas rope from the ceiling…&lt;/i&gt;

John Dough: I saw something similar in 1974. A 2x8 painted blue and displayed leaning against a white museum wall. The title:

&lt;i&gt;There&#039;s no reason not to&lt;/i&gt;

I give the sculptor credit for deconstructing &lt;i&gt;everybody&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My last trip to MoMA was 20 years ago where I viewed 3-2×4 pieces of wood about 30? long nailed together, crudely painted white with most of the nails bent over hanging on a piece of silas rope from the ceiling…</i></p>
<p>John Dough: I saw something similar in 1974. A 2&#215;8 painted blue and displayed leaning against a white museum wall. The title:</p>
<p><i>There&#8217;s no reason not to</i></p>
<p>I give the sculptor credit for deconstructing <i>everybody</i>.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/05/nys-museum-of-modern-art-is-getting-a-pc-makeover/#comment-2422130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But there may be some truth in it? Or just a whole lot of ugly?&lt;/i&gt;

om: Mixed. 

Modern art, at least into the seventies, wasn&#039;t necessarily stupid or insincere. I still see much of it as heroic. The 20th century was such a dislocation for &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; that focusing on beauty while confronted with automobiles, relativity, world wars, nuclear weapons, television, computers and moonshots seemed inadequate.

I take that point. Artists like Picasso, Braque, Duchamp, Klee, Magritte, Dali, Miro, Pollock, Rothko, Johns, Rauschenberg and even Warhol strike me as essential. I find much of their work, however cock-eyed, beautiful without pursuing that quality directly.

But at some point, the avant-garde spirals into itself and self-destructs or is co-opted by commercial and political concerns. Which is what we have seen.

What I find unforgivable is that current artists are simply recycling modern art tropes within criminally unexamined postmodern assumptions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But there may be some truth in it? Or just a whole lot of ugly?</i></p>
<p>om: Mixed. </p>
<p>Modern art, at least into the seventies, wasn&#8217;t necessarily stupid or insincere. I still see much of it as heroic. The 20th century was such a dislocation for <i>everything</i> that focusing on beauty while confronted with automobiles, relativity, world wars, nuclear weapons, television, computers and moonshots seemed inadequate.</p>
<p>I take that point. Artists like Picasso, Braque, Duchamp, Klee, Magritte, Dali, Miro, Pollock, Rothko, Johns, Rauschenberg and even Warhol strike me as essential. I find much of their work, however cock-eyed, beautiful without pursuing that quality directly.</p>
<p>But at some point, the avant-garde spirals into itself and self-destructs or is co-opted by commercial and political concerns. Which is what we have seen.</p>
<p>What I find unforgivable is that current artists are simply recycling modern art tropes within criminally unexamined postmodern assumptions.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/05/nys-museum-of-modern-art-is-getting-a-pc-makeover/#comment-2422128</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe MoMA will sponsor this one when it leaves DC.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/02/04/interactive-art-solution-pelt-ivanka-trump-with-crumbs/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe MoMA will sponsor this one when it leaves DC.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/02/04/interactive-art-solution-pelt-ivanka-trump-with-crumbs/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/02/04/interactive-art-solution-pelt-ivanka-trump-with-crumbs/</a></p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 03:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley- yes, that seems like real art. My grandmother started painting nature scenes , flowers and that sort of thing around 70 ish years old.  There are a number hanging around the house.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley- yes, that seems like real art. My grandmother started painting nature scenes , flowers and that sort of thing around 70 ish years old.  There are a number hanging around the house.</p>
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		By: John Dough		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/05/nys-museum-of-modern-art-is-getting-a-pc-makeover/#comment-2422112</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 03:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My last trip to MoMA was 20 years ago where I viewed 3-2x4 pieces of wood about 30&quot; long nailed together, crudely painted white with most of the nails bent over hanging on a piece of silas rope from the ceiling.... Hell, I was doing that kind of Art when I was 4 years old...It was a little before the time for this kind of Art....Dang!! Maybe it was the same artist that Mike referred to at 5:49]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last trip to MoMA was 20 years ago where I viewed 3-2&#215;4 pieces of wood about 30&#8243; long nailed together, crudely painted white with most of the nails bent over hanging on a piece of silas rope from the ceiling&#8230;. Hell, I was doing that kind of Art when I was 4 years old&#8230;It was a little before the time for this kind of Art&#8230;.Dang!! Maybe it was the same artist that Mike referred to at 5:49</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 02:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley:

But there may be some truth in it?  Or just a whole lot of ugly?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley:</p>
<p>But there may be some truth in it?  Or just a whole lot of ugly?</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/02/05/nys-museum-of-modern-art-is-getting-a-pc-makeover/#comment-2422107</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 02:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Is there any “art” left in it? Beauty left long ago.&lt;/i&gt;

om: A friend recommended the exercise of browsing through a book on contemporary art and looking for the word, &quot;beauty.&quot;

One is not surprised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is there any “art” left in it? Beauty left long ago.</i></p>
<p>om: A friend recommended the exercise of browsing through a book on contemporary art and looking for the word, &#8220;beauty.&#8221;</p>
<p>One is not surprised.</p>
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		By: Chang Yee Fong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chang Yee Fong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 02:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading this post made me think of this guys comment on Modern Art. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9iJCZ5Il8

And stick to the end of the video he gives an example of a really good Modern Artist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this post made me think of this guys comment on Modern Art. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9iJCZ5Il8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9iJCZ5Il8</a></p>
<p>And stick to the end of the video he gives an example of a really good Modern Artist.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 02:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there any &quot;art&quot; left in it?  Beauty left long ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any &#8220;art&#8221; left in it?  Beauty left long ago.</p>
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