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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/29/the-parents-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-2421365</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr
&lt;b&gt;The Minox was used by both Axis and Allied intelligence agents during World War II. Later versions were used well into the 1980s. &lt;/b&gt;

The parents of childhood friends had a Minox camera. Interestingly enough, both parents had friends and relatives with Cold War connections. Come to think of it, the father himself did, as he made some spending money doing a report for a US government agency on on his visit to relatives in an Iron Curtain country.


&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.shutterbug.com/content/minox-closer-look-every-spys-favorite-camera&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Minox: A Closer Look at Every Spy’s Favorite Camera&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr<br />
<b>The Minox was used by both Axis and Allied intelligence agents during World War II. Later versions were used well into the 1980s. </b></p>
<p>The parents of childhood friends had a Minox camera. Interestingly enough, both parents had friends and relatives with Cold War connections. Come to think of it, the father himself did, as he made some spending money doing a report for a US government agency on on his visit to relatives in an Iron Curtain country.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.shutterbug.com/content/minox-closer-look-every-spys-favorite-camera" rel="nofollow">The Minox: A Closer Look at Every Spy’s Favorite Camera</a></p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On this topic, has anyone else ever read Nelson DeMille&#039;s novel &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Charm-School-Nelson-DeMille/dp/1538744287/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Charm School?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this topic, has anyone else ever read Nelson DeMille&#8217;s novel <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Charm-School-Nelson-DeMille/dp/1538744287/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Charm School?&#8221;</a></p>
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		By: Catherine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[see the illegals program, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the illegals program, here: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program</a></p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cheating AI: https://wordpress.com/post/tomgrey.wordpress.com/181]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheating AI: <a href="https://wordpress.com/post/tomgrey.wordpress.com/181" rel="nofollow ugc">https://wordpress.com/post/tomgrey.wordpress.com/181</a></p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting that the spies used steganography to encode info in maps, much like the AI map maker that was cheating did.

In a related way, an old Dean Koontz book had a significant twist being a US &quot;city&quot; actually being a training ground for Soviet kids to learn English and &quot;be American&quot;; I only just finished this 1982 book last week.

The Russians were embarrassed at being caught, but also proud at doing it.

Now, I think the Chinese have also been doing it, like Feinstein&#039;s driver, but have better at avoiding being caught.  

Huawei&#039;s IP thefts are tangentially related.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting that the spies used steganography to encode info in maps, much like the AI map maker that was cheating did.</p>
<p>In a related way, an old Dean Koontz book had a significant twist being a US &#8220;city&#8221; actually being a training ground for Soviet kids to learn English and &#8220;be American&#8221;; I only just finished this 1982 book last week.</p>
<p>The Russians were embarrassed at being caught, but also proud at doing it.</p>
<p>Now, I think the Chinese have also been doing it, like Feinstein&#8217;s driver, but have better at avoiding being caught.  </p>
<p>Huawei&#8217;s IP thefts are tangentially related.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 06:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved &lt;i&gt;The Americans&lt;/i&gt;, which ended its run last year on FX.  I highly recommend it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved <i>The Americans</i>, which ended its run last year on FX.  I highly recommend it.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 06:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley: &quot;It’s high-pressure, tedious work but doesn’t involve breaking necks on a regular basis.&quot;

One of my continuing complaints about the series was the amount of violence that Phillip and Elizabeth engaged in. Constant string of murders. I guess that&#039;s just show biz-- they had to keep the audience engaged--but it got preposterous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley: &#8220;It’s high-pressure, tedious work but doesn’t involve breaking necks on a regular basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of my continuing complaints about the series was the amount of violence that Phillip and Elizabeth engaged in. Constant string of murders. I guess that&#8217;s just show biz&#8211; they had to keep the audience engaged&#8211;but it got preposterous.</p>
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		By: Ted Clayton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Clayton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post Neo ... or pointer-tip, since I read the linked article, with keen interest.  I write this, without reading other Comments first.  I was unaware of this story, or the Series.

At the top, it is obtuse to &#039;wonder&#039; about the (at least hoped-for) role of any children of these plants.  And the putative recruitment.  This was a &#039;feature&#039; from the get-go, not a &#039;bug&#039;.

I did a Cold War hitch in military high-tech.  Not an officer, not intelligence.  But even in such relatively pedestrian environments, the lines do begin to blur.  Like with the boys...

I suspect when we look at Assange and Snowden et al, we are looking at the cutting edge of intelligence and spying.  Clear &#038; clean lines are not there ... not very useful.  Major blurring.

The extreme value of a second-generation operative means that serious thought went into their handling.  To transition an innocent child (or later adult) to incremental levels of awareness, and hopefully (some degree of) co-optation, needs to be done right.  

Of course, the game-board has changed, &#039;out from under&#039; Alex and Tim.  But just imagine the mirror-case ... kids raised in Russia, now semi-stranded/exiled in the West:  we&#039;re talking profoundly unique individuals with matchless perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Neo &#8230; or pointer-tip, since I read the linked article, with keen interest.  I write this, without reading other Comments first.  I was unaware of this story, or the Series.</p>
<p>At the top, it is obtuse to &#8216;wonder&#8217; about the (at least hoped-for) role of any children of these plants.  And the putative recruitment.  This was a &#8216;feature&#8217; from the get-go, not a &#8216;bug&#8217;.</p>
<p>I did a Cold War hitch in military high-tech.  Not an officer, not intelligence.  But even in such relatively pedestrian environments, the lines do begin to blur.  Like with the boys&#8230;</p>
<p>I suspect when we look at Assange and Snowden et al, we are looking at the cutting edge of intelligence and spying.  Clear &amp; clean lines are not there &#8230; not very useful.  Major blurring.</p>
<p>The extreme value of a second-generation operative means that serious thought went into their handling.  To transition an innocent child (or later adult) to incremental levels of awareness, and hopefully (some degree of) co-optation, needs to be done right.  </p>
<p>Of course, the game-board has changed, &#8216;out from under&#8217; Alex and Tim.  But just imagine the mirror-case &#8230; kids raised in Russia, now semi-stranded/exiled in the West:  we&#8217;re talking profoundly unique individuals with matchless perspective.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 00:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What does this remind me of?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0511107/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_i73


What sticks in your head...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this remind me of?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0511107/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_i73" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0511107/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_i73</a></p>
<p>What sticks in your head&#8230;</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What an incredibly cruel thing to do to their children.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an incredibly cruel thing to do to their children.</p>
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