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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/25/ilhan-omar-might-just-be/#comment-2420933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

I can&#039;t find anything about annotations in the Koran.  There is plenty of confusion about the whole topic.  Someone named K. Collazi &lt;a href=&quot;http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2016/04/jeffersons-quran-glenn-beck-and-john.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt; that it was Jefferson&#039;s Koran that K. Ellison used for his swearing-in and it was translated by George Sale.  According to Collazi, Mr. Sale himself had negative things to say about Islam.  John Adams senior&#039;s Koran was translated by Sieur du Ryer.  Other folks have allegedly switched these books around in their commentary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find anything about annotations in the Koran.  There is plenty of confusion about the whole topic.  Someone named K. Collazi <a href="http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2016/04/jeffersons-quran-glenn-beck-and-john.html" rel="nofollow">writes</a> that it was Jefferson&#8217;s Koran that K. Ellison used for his swearing-in and it was translated by George Sale.  According to Collazi, Mr. Sale himself had negative things to say about Islam.  John Adams senior&#8217;s Koran was translated by Sieur du Ryer.  Other folks have allegedly switched these books around in their commentary.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/25/ilhan-omar-might-just-be/#comment-2420928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hitchens is a fascinating character.  I read his book about the Hillary Clinton/Lewinsky/Syd &quot;Vicious&quot; Blumenthal affair.  He reminds me of George Orwell, who never repudiated Marxism.  Hitchens claimed to be a Trotsky Marxist, I think even later in life.  Speaking of repudiations, why don&#039;t media people demand a repudiation from Bernie Sanders, who shouted the virtues of Venezuela as recently as 2011?

Hitchens Naval bibliography missed the first accounts of the U.S. Navy; the first being a highly biased and anti-US account by a British lawyer named James, and the second by a grad student named Theodore Roosevelt.  TR&#039;s motive, in part, was to set the record straight after the scurrilous book by James.

The one I read was by Ian Toll, &quot;Six Frigates.&quot;  While I don&#039;t doubt that many of our founding fathers were anti-war isolationists at various points in time, it was Adams senior (Pres. #2) who signed the funding for the first 6 frigates, early in his presidency.  The design and construction was long and arduous and none were launched until Jefferson&#039;s presidency.  Jefferson &lt;b&gt;had been&lt;/b&gt; a strong isolationist until he saw the realities of the presidency.  Make sure to read the epilog, if you read Toll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitchens is a fascinating character.  I read his book about the Hillary Clinton/Lewinsky/Syd &#8220;Vicious&#8221; Blumenthal affair.  He reminds me of George Orwell, who never repudiated Marxism.  Hitchens claimed to be a Trotsky Marxist, I think even later in life.  Speaking of repudiations, why don&#8217;t media people demand a repudiation from Bernie Sanders, who shouted the virtues of Venezuela as recently as 2011?</p>
<p>Hitchens Naval bibliography missed the first accounts of the U.S. Navy; the first being a highly biased and anti-US account by a British lawyer named James, and the second by a grad student named Theodore Roosevelt.  TR&#8217;s motive, in part, was to set the record straight after the scurrilous book by James.</p>
<p>The one I read was by Ian Toll, &#8220;Six Frigates.&#8221;  While I don&#8217;t doubt that many of our founding fathers were anti-war isolationists at various points in time, it was Adams senior (Pres. #2) who signed the funding for the first 6 frigates, early in his presidency.  The design and construction was long and arduous and none were launched until Jefferson&#8217;s presidency.  Jefferson <b>had been</b> a strong isolationist until he saw the realities of the presidency.  Make sure to read the epilog, if you read Toll.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/25/ilhan-omar-might-just-be/#comment-2420896</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo--In the Christopher Hitchens article you have linked to above, Hitchens writes that the Jizya payment paid annually by the U.S. government approached 10% of the annual Federal budget in some years. 

I researched this particular issue several years ago, and by looking at the budgetary figures in the Congressional Records for the years involved, from what I could see, Jizya payments--in the demanded gold coins--approached not 10%, but more like 50% of the Budget in some years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo&#8211;In the Christopher Hitchens article you have linked to above, Hitchens writes that the Jizya payment paid annually by the U.S. government approached 10% of the annual Federal budget in some years. </p>
<p>I researched this particular issue several years ago, and by looking at the budgetary figures in the Congressional Records for the years involved, from what I could see, Jizya payments&#8211;in the demanded gold coins&#8211;approached not 10%, but more like 50% of the Budget in some years.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 23:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson:

I hadn&#039;t realized you&#039;d been living in Venezuela.  You must have a great many tales to tell. 

I&#039;ve been reading Daniel&#039;s work for well over a decade.  I think the first mention I made of his blog at my blog is &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2007/05/29/once-again-do-cry-for-venezuela/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Nathanson:</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t realized you&#8217;d been living in Venezuela.  You must have a great many tales to tell. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading Daniel&#8217;s work for well over a decade.  I think the first mention I made of his blog at my blog is <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2007/05/29/once-again-do-cry-for-venezuela/">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Anyway, I will be happy to provide information and clarifications on this subject as the confrontation unfolds.&lt;/i&gt;

It would be greatly appreciated, and not just by me, I suspect,.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anyway, I will be happy to provide information and clarifications on this subject as the confrontation unfolds.</i></p>
<p>It would be greatly appreciated, and not just by me, I suspect,.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“the bug-eyed Latina with the big choppers”

Sorry Sarah, I get your point but I had to laugh at that in view of all the hype about how &quot;attractive&quot; AOC is supposed to be.  I do not find her attractive for precisely those two reasons - eyes and teeth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“the bug-eyed Latina with the big choppers”</p>
<p>Sorry Sarah, I get your point but I had to laugh at that in view of all the hype about how &#8220;attractive&#8221; AOC is supposed to be.  I do not find her attractive for precisely those two reasons &#8211; eyes and teeth.</p>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Nathanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Henry, your understanding is correct. The election of Maduro, which was held back in May was universally called a fraud and a farce by everyone, except Maduro&#039;s authoritarian allies. Therefore, when his previous term ended, the office of the presidency (and vice-presidency) became vacant. Most of the countries in the region announced that they did not recognize Maduro. According to the Constitution of Venezuela the next in line of succession is the President of the National Assembly, which is Juan Guaidò. Correcting the media&#039;s mischaracterization, Guaidò did not self-declare himself President. He accepted the appointment in accordance with the Constitution.

I am well informed on this subject because I lived in Venezuela for 12 years up till five months ago. I speak Spanish and follow the news closely in the original Spanish versions. Note that the media often screws up the stories with inaccurate translations. My wife is Venezuelan and we still have property there. 

Note that I was even jailed during the 2017 protests. I wasn&#039;t even in the protest. I just got swept up by the police several blocks away. I and 41 others spent five days and nights sleeping and eating on a tile floor in the same clothing in which we were arrested. 

Anyway, I will be happy to provide information and clarifications on this subject as the confrontation unfolds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry, your understanding is correct. The election of Maduro, which was held back in May was universally called a fraud and a farce by everyone, except Maduro&#8217;s authoritarian allies. Therefore, when his previous term ended, the office of the presidency (and vice-presidency) became vacant. Most of the countries in the region announced that they did not recognize Maduro. According to the Constitution of Venezuela the next in line of succession is the President of the National Assembly, which is Juan Guaidò. Correcting the media&#8217;s mischaracterization, Guaidò did not self-declare himself President. He accepted the appointment in accordance with the Constitution.</p>
<p>I am well informed on this subject because I lived in Venezuela for 12 years up till five months ago. I speak Spanish and follow the news closely in the original Spanish versions. Note that the media often screws up the stories with inaccurate translations. My wife is Venezuelan and we still have property there. </p>
<p>Note that I was even jailed during the 2017 protests. I wasn&#8217;t even in the protest. I just got swept up by the police several blocks away. I and 41 others spent five days and nights sleeping and eating on a tile floor in the same clothing in which we were arrested. </p>
<p>Anyway, I will be happy to provide information and clarifications on this subject as the confrontation unfolds.</p>
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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The MSM seems to have just woken up to the fact that there is a problem in Venezuela.  Most of the reporters cannot even pronounce Guaidò&#039;s last name properly. 

In any case, Omar is toeing the socialist/leftist party line on this. There is a fairly sound legal argument, as well as a moral one, for supporting Guaidò. But, none of that matters, because... well, because Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM seems to have just woken up to the fact that there is a problem in Venezuela.  Most of the reporters cannot even pronounce Guaidò&#8217;s last name properly. </p>
<p>In any case, Omar is toeing the socialist/leftist party line on this. There is a fairly sound legal argument, as well as a moral one, for supporting Guaidò. But, none of that matters, because&#8230; well, because Trump.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay:

The consensus on Jefferson&#039;s Koran is that there are no notes in it.

Jefferson was in favor of religious freedom, including Muslims. However, he also said that Islam is a religion &quot;stifling free enquiry.&quot;  And of course there were the Barbary pirates (see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.city-journal.org/html/jefferson-versus-muslim-pirates-13013.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;).

It was John Quincy Adams &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2014/09/04/john-quincy-adams-on-islam/&quot;&gt;who wrote quite a bit&lt;/a&gt; on Islam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>The consensus on Jefferson&#8217;s Koran is that there are no notes in it.</p>
<p>Jefferson was in favor of religious freedom, including Muslims. However, he also said that Islam is a religion &#8220;stifling free enquiry.&#8221;  And of course there were the Barbary pirates (see <a href="https://www.city-journal.org/html/jefferson-versus-muslim-pirates-13013.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>).</p>
<p>It was John Quincy Adams <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2014/09/04/john-quincy-adams-on-islam/">who wrote quite a bit</a> on Islam.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glenn Beck claimed a number of years ago to have obtained a copy of some of the annotated pages of Jefferson&#039;s Quran.  Around that time I tried unsuccessfully to find a representation on the web.  As I understand it, Jefferson&#039;s notations make his opinion of the Quran clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Beck claimed a number of years ago to have obtained a copy of some of the annotated pages of Jefferson&#8217;s Quran.  Around that time I tried unsuccessfully to find a representation on the web.  As I understand it, Jefferson&#8217;s notations make his opinion of the Quran clear.</p>
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