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		By: FOAF		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420611</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry, it may be a fine point since I was pretty nasty to manju (who deserves it but that’s another story) but I wasn’t telling him to STFU merely recommending it.  Because Dems aren’t going to look good in a thread about a hideous regime they have coddled for years no matter how much Russia shade they try to throw.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, it may be a fine point since I was pretty nasty to manju (who deserves it but that’s another story) but I wasn’t telling him to STFU merely recommending it.  Because Dems aren’t going to look good in a thread about a hideous regime they have coddled for years no matter how much Russia shade they try to throw.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420607</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;...the moral people, the TRUE patriots (NOT those MAGA fools, knaves and imposters)…must therefore be AGAINST that something—that whatever…because Trump is, by definition, the GREATER evil:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/dems-block-move-to-pay-federal-workers.php
By definition. On principle.
One must strive to be fair.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes and you gotta love their application of principle. 

Reminds me of that story I&#039;ve told here before. So, my significant other and her two boys and I are vacationing at her parents&#039; lake place, and on leaving there, travel over the bigger one near by, (The one that runs down to Chicago) for a moderately upscale lunch in a frou-frou town her mother enjoys. Fancy burger joint basically. The black haired younger one is being uncooperative, and the red haired, slightly older one, unusually good. The younger will not eat the meal he orders (and he was not a toddler) and is acting up generally. I don&#039;t care too much, we are outside on a second story terrace, but throwing away 20 bucks on a burger he wont eat and listening to his whining as he spills shit is getting to me.

As an added bonus the attitude persists for the next 200 miles plus drive south.

We get back to town, and are having dinner the next day. The older one finishes his food, and asks for a soda pop. It is granted to him as a reward. The younger one who had been trying to live off sweets and pop, and has not eaten his dinner, demands one too. Approximate Reconstruction follows: &quot;No&quot;. &quot;Why not?&quot; &quot;Because your brother has eaten his proper meals today and yesterday, and so he can have a treat.&quot;

&quot;But he had one yesterday and another today, and that means he gets more than me and that&#039;s not fair.&quot;

So having exactly what he has is fair? &quot;Yes&quot;. 

&quot;Then since he ate all his vegetables, you should have to too; and that will then be &quot;fair&quot;?  

&quot;No.&quot; 

&quot;No? Why not?&quot;

&quot;Because &#039;fair&#039; is only for the things you want&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;the moral people, the TRUE patriots (NOT those MAGA fools, knaves and imposters)…must therefore be AGAINST that something—that whatever…because Trump is, by definition, the GREATER evil:<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/dems-block-move-to-pay-federal-workers.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/dems-block-move-to-pay-federal-workers.php</a><br />
By definition. On principle.<br />
One must strive to be fair.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes and you gotta love their application of principle. </p>
<p>Reminds me of that story I&#8217;ve told here before. So, my significant other and her two boys and I are vacationing at her parents&#8217; lake place, and on leaving there, travel over the bigger one near by, (The one that runs down to Chicago) for a moderately upscale lunch in a frou-frou town her mother enjoys. Fancy burger joint basically. The black haired younger one is being uncooperative, and the red haired, slightly older one, unusually good. The younger will not eat the meal he orders (and he was not a toddler) and is acting up generally. I don&#8217;t care too much, we are outside on a second story terrace, but throwing away 20 bucks on a burger he wont eat and listening to his whining as he spills shit is getting to me.</p>
<p>As an added bonus the attitude persists for the next 200 miles plus drive south.</p>
<p>We get back to town, and are having dinner the next day. The older one finishes his food, and asks for a soda pop. It is granted to him as a reward. The younger one who had been trying to live off sweets and pop, and has not eaten his dinner, demands one too. Approximate Reconstruction follows: &#8220;No&#8221;. &#8220;Why not?&#8221; &#8220;Because your brother has eaten his proper meals today and yesterday, and so he can have a treat.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But he had one yesterday and another today, and that means he gets more than me and that&#8217;s not fair.&#8221;</p>
<p>So having exactly what he has is fair? &#8220;Yes&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Then since he ate all his vegetables, you should have to too; and that will then be &#8220;fair&#8221;?  </p>
<p>&#8220;No.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;No? Why not?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Because &#8216;fair&#8217; is only for the things you want&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420604</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s going on?  an attempt at a peaceful assertion of control against a fraudulently elected faux President.  Not quite a coup, altho its success depends on the support of the military.

Why now?  Only now is Maduro assuming power based on a fraud.
Plus (b) Brazil.  The largest neighbor to Venezuela.
https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/brazil-reiterates-it-will-not-participate-in-possible-venezuela-intervention/ 

Too many illegal immigrants from Venezuela are causing problems on the Brazilian border -- Brazil is ready to help Guaido, tho not with intervention.
(Not yet?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s going on?  an attempt at a peaceful assertion of control against a fraudulently elected faux President.  Not quite a coup, altho its success depends on the support of the military.</p>
<p>Why now?  Only now is Maduro assuming power based on a fraud.<br />
Plus (b) Brazil.  The largest neighbor to Venezuela.<br />
<a href="https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/brazil-reiterates-it-will-not-participate-in-possible-venezuela-intervention/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/brazil-reiterates-it-will-not-participate-in-possible-venezuela-intervention/</a> </p>
<p>Too many illegal immigrants from Venezuela are causing problems on the Brazilian border &#8212; Brazil is ready to help Guaido, tho not with intervention.<br />
(Not yet?)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420596</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 10:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...STFU....&quot;

Um, well, actually, what makes America (and similar countries) GREAT is that people in those countries are allowed---yes!---to support destructive, murderous regimes like Venezuela. Or protest against those regime&#039;s dissolution.

At least that&#039;s part of what makes America great. Yes (for all those cringers, sighers, foot-shufflers, nay-sayers and but-sayers), GREAT.  

Now, one might want to question the judgment---or indeed the sanity---of such fans of destruction and evil, but they are, in the end, allowed to hold these opinions (by a Constitution that so many of them, oddly, wish to get rid of!).

To be sure, the fact that such people would actually like to import such destructive and evil policies to America might raise some eyebrows. Or more.

Still...

Where was I? Oh yes. It seems to be that IF Trump is FOR ending of a destructive and evil regime, then the Democrats must be AGAINST that (i.e., against ending of a destructive and evil regime):
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/that_weird_silence_from_democrats_over_venezuelas_massive_rejection_of_socialism.html

But maybe it&#039;s not exactly fair to lambaste the Democrats regarding Venezuela, specifically. Maybe it&#039;s the general rule that is at the core of their convictions. That is, maybe it&#039;s the principle.

So that it probably would be a lot fairer to say that if Trump is FOR something---anything---then the smart people, the wise people, the intelligent people, the sophisticated people, the nuanced people, the caring people, the sensitive and sensible people, the moral people, the TRUE patriots (NOT those MAGA fools, knaves and imposters)...must therefore be AGAINST that something---that whatever...because Trump is, by definition, the GREATER evil:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/dems-block-move-to-pay-federal-workers.php

By definition. On principle.

One must strive to be fair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;STFU&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, well, actually, what makes America (and similar countries) GREAT is that people in those countries are allowed&#8212;yes!&#8212;to support destructive, murderous regimes like Venezuela. Or protest against those regime&#8217;s dissolution.</p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s part of what makes America great. Yes (for all those cringers, sighers, foot-shufflers, nay-sayers and but-sayers), GREAT.  </p>
<p>Now, one might want to question the judgment&#8212;or indeed the sanity&#8212;of such fans of destruction and evil, but they are, in the end, allowed to hold these opinions (by a Constitution that so many of them, oddly, wish to get rid of!).</p>
<p>To be sure, the fact that such people would actually like to import such destructive and evil policies to America might raise some eyebrows. Or more.</p>
<p>Still&#8230;</p>
<p>Where was I? Oh yes. It seems to be that IF Trump is FOR ending of a destructive and evil regime, then the Democrats must be AGAINST that (i.e., against ending of a destructive and evil regime):<br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/that_weird_silence_from_democrats_over_venezuelas_massive_rejection_of_socialism.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/that_weird_silence_from_democrats_over_venezuelas_massive_rejection_of_socialism.html</a></p>
<p>But maybe it&#8217;s not exactly fair to lambaste the Democrats regarding Venezuela, specifically. Maybe it&#8217;s the general rule that is at the core of their convictions. That is, maybe it&#8217;s the principle.</p>
<p>So that it probably would be a lot fairer to say that if Trump is FOR something&#8212;anything&#8212;then the smart people, the wise people, the intelligent people, the sophisticated people, the nuanced people, the caring people, the sensitive and sensible people, the moral people, the TRUE patriots (NOT those MAGA fools, knaves and imposters)&#8230;must therefore be AGAINST that something&#8212;that whatever&#8230;because Trump is, by definition, the GREATER evil:<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/dems-block-move-to-pay-federal-workers.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/dems-block-move-to-pay-federal-workers.php</a></p>
<p>By definition. On principle.</p>
<p>One must strive to be fair.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420594</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 08:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[manju doesn’t know when to STFU.  Trump is standing up for American values and interests in a way Obama *never* did.  And as for Russia despite any offhand remarks Trump made his policy towards Russia is objectively *much* tougher than President Flexible’s.

You leftists have been pimping out the Venezuelan commies for years now and YOU bear responsibility for the destitute state of that country.  You are nothing but a slimy dishonest toad manju and you are beating that dead Russian horse because you are a loser through and through.  That’s why you have to make a living trolling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>manju doesn’t know when to STFU.  Trump is standing up for American values and interests in a way Obama *never* did.  And as for Russia despite any offhand remarks Trump made his policy towards Russia is objectively *much* tougher than President Flexible’s.</p>
<p>You leftists have been pimping out the Venezuelan commies for years now and YOU bear responsibility for the destitute state of that country.  You are nothing but a slimy dishonest toad manju and you are beating that dead Russian horse because you are a loser through and through.  That’s why you have to make a living trolling.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420592</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Gringo on January 24, 2019 at 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm said:
.... What Donald Trump said about the Russians going into Afghanistan was total nonsense.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah it was. Or close enough to it, according to the standard understanding of the pretext given. But, nonetheless, Trump has shown no evidence whatsoever of being a communist. 

And the idea of American progressives, the fervid offspring of a previous era&#039;s Stalin worshipers, screaming about foreign infiltration in the wake of Clinton&#039;s Norinco waivers, Gore&#039;s Chinese campaign money, et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum ad nauseam, just ... cracks ... me ... up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gringo on January 24, 2019 at 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm said:<br />
&#8230;. What Donald Trump said about the Russians going into Afghanistan was total nonsense.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah it was. Or close enough to it, according to the standard understanding of the pretext given. But, nonetheless, Trump has shown no evidence whatsoever of being a communist. </p>
<p>And the idea of American progressives, the fervid offspring of a previous era&#8217;s Stalin worshipers, screaming about foreign infiltration in the wake of Clinton&#8217;s Norinco waivers, Gore&#8217;s Chinese campaign money, et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum ad nauseam, just &#8230; cracks &#8230; me &#8230; up.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Manju on January 24, 2019 at 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm said:
DNW,
Re: “Soviet Russia”
Perhaps it has something to do with this:&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps? You know of a specific causal link or reference not mentioned in her rant? 

And what, exactly has that to do with her polemical deployment of the &quot;Soviet Russia&quot; phraseology?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Even if you dismiss the notion that Trump is a Russian asset, you’re left with a President spewing Communist propaganda that afaik even Noam Chomsky and Stephen F. Cohen do not spew.
What the hell is this crap?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Russian asset&quot; LOL. If you are off looking for foreign assets in the US government, you could start with Soviet assets, and half a dozen members of the Democrat party who were concurrently members of the Roosevelt and Truman administrations. And you could include Progressive Icon Mr. Postwar Planned Economy Roosevelt himself [had his stroking out not spared us] as one of Stalin&#039;s more prominent ass kissing apologists. You know, Stalin the psychopathic murderer of millions.

But anyway, when you say &quot;spewing communist propaganda&quot;, are you asserting that Trump is advocating the benefits of a subhuman collectivist ideology known as Marxism or communism?

No, of course you are not. 

Funny though how progressives so loved the Soviet Union, yet so hate Russia now. Maybe they always did hate Russia. Maybe that is in part why they loved the Soviet Union so much ... their hatred of Russia.

Russia is an antagonist, a political competitor, and often an adversary. But Russia can do me and my interests no greater harm than the Soviets and their soulless [ literally, on their own anthropological theory] Democrat party collaborators wished, and tried to do.

That is why there is nothing funnier than to listen to a panicked American progressive wave the flag and shout &quot;We ... &quot; . It&#039;s like Howard Dean banging on your door at night and begging to be let in because some criminal is slashing him to ribbons. Shrug. If two rats fight, and one is going to win, then you have only one to deal with later.

Dear Progressives: That &quot;We ...&quot; train left the station years ago amigos. Your citizenship leaves you with about as much solidarity capital to call on as the average man-eating space alien. Someone is killing you? I don&#039;t care. One less socialst totalitarian asshole to deal with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Manju on January 24, 2019 at 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm said:<br />
DNW,<br />
Re: “Soviet Russia”<br />
Perhaps it has something to do with this:&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps? You know of a specific causal link or reference not mentioned in her rant? </p>
<p>And what, exactly has that to do with her polemical deployment of the &#8220;Soviet Russia&#8221; phraseology?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Even if you dismiss the notion that Trump is a Russian asset, you’re left with a President spewing Communist propaganda that afaik even Noam Chomsky and Stephen F. Cohen do not spew.<br />
What the hell is this crap?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Russian asset&#8221; LOL. If you are off looking for foreign assets in the US government, you could start with Soviet assets, and half a dozen members of the Democrat party who were concurrently members of the Roosevelt and Truman administrations. And you could include Progressive Icon Mr. Postwar Planned Economy Roosevelt himself [had his stroking out not spared us] as one of Stalin&#8217;s more prominent ass kissing apologists. You know, Stalin the psychopathic murderer of millions.</p>
<p>But anyway, when you say &#8220;spewing communist propaganda&#8221;, are you asserting that Trump is advocating the benefits of a subhuman collectivist ideology known as Marxism or communism?</p>
<p>No, of course you are not. </p>
<p>Funny though how progressives so loved the Soviet Union, yet so hate Russia now. Maybe they always did hate Russia. Maybe that is in part why they loved the Soviet Union so much &#8230; their hatred of Russia.</p>
<p>Russia is an antagonist, a political competitor, and often an adversary. But Russia can do me and my interests no greater harm than the Soviets and their soulless [ literally, on their own anthropological theory] Democrat party collaborators wished, and tried to do.</p>
<p>That is why there is nothing funnier than to listen to a panicked American progressive wave the flag and shout &#8220;We &#8230; &#8221; . It&#8217;s like Howard Dean banging on your door at night and begging to be let in because some criminal is slashing him to ribbons. Shrug. If two rats fight, and one is going to win, then you have only one to deal with later.</p>
<p>Dear Progressives: That &#8220;We &#8230;&#8221; train left the station years ago amigos. Your citizenship leaves you with about as much solidarity capital to call on as the average man-eating space alien. Someone is killing you? I don&#8217;t care. One less socialst totalitarian asshole to deal with.</p>
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		By: Matthew M		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420587</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Neo&#039;s very own blogroll, Daniel in Venezuela, has a nice summary of the major issues playing out: https://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2019/01/answers-Venezuela-2019.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Neo&#8217;s very own blogroll, Daniel in Venezuela, has a nice summary of the major issues playing out: <a href="https://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2019/01/answers-Venezuela-2019.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2019/01/answers-Venezuela-2019.html</a></p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420562</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Manju. What Donald Trump said about the Russians going into Afghanistan was total nonsense. They went into Afghanistan to get rid of an incompetent puppet and install another puppet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Manju. What Donald Trump said about the Russians going into Afghanistan was total nonsense. They went into Afghanistan to get rid of an incompetent puppet and install another puppet.</p>
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		By: Manju		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/24/whats-going-on-in-venezuela/#comment-2420556</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manju]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW,

Re: “Soviet Russia”

Perhaps it has something to do with this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia, because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan…&lt;strong&gt;The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there.&lt;/strong&gt; The problem is it was a tough fight. And literally, they went bankrupt. They went into being called Russia again, as opposed to the Soviet Union. &lt;/blockquote&gt;-Donald Trump

Could someone here explain to me why this, the highlighted portion in particular, is not a Red Flag for the party of Reagan? 

Even if you dismiss the notion that Trump is a Russian asset, you’re left with a President spewing Communist propaganda that afaik even Noam Chomsky and Stephen F. Cohen do not spew.

What the hell is this crap?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW,</p>
<p>Re: “Soviet Russia”</p>
<p>Perhaps it has something to do with this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia, because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan…<strong>The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there.</strong> The problem is it was a tough fight. And literally, they went bankrupt. They went into being called Russia again, as opposed to the Soviet Union. </p></blockquote>
<p>-Donald Trump</p>
<p>Could someone here explain to me why this, the highlighted portion in particular, is not a Red Flag for the party of Reagan? </p>
<p>Even if you dismiss the notion that Trump is a Russian asset, you’re left with a President spewing Communist propaganda that afaik even Noam Chomsky and Stephen F. Cohen do not spew.</p>
<p>What the hell is this crap?</p>
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