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	Comments on: Frankovich&#8217;s &#8220;apology&#8221; and the Atlantic&#8217;s attempt at a corrective on the nature of truth	</title>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting comments from Don Surber, encountered via other posts on the Covington Crisis.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/01/when-caught-blame-trump.html

&quot;Then there is National Review&#039;s apology. Titled, &quot;The Covington Affair,&quot; the 561-word piece said in Paragraph Four, &quot;In this business, all we can do is own up to mistakes when they happen. We apologize to our readers and especially to the Covington students, who didn’t need us piling on.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;The magazine didn&#039;t need to be saying a word about the kids who were in Washington to protest abortion, something the magazine claims to oppose.

The magazine indulged in the very same virtue signaling it denounced liberals for.&lt;/b&gt;

National Review blamed its rush on judgment on its push to rush to judgment.

The publication said, &quot;A word on the Nick Frankovich Corner post. As longtime readers know, the Corner is our group blog that encourages real-time, unfiltered reactions by our individual writers (it was basically Twitter before the advent of Twitter). There is always a peril in that. Occasionally, we’ll get something hastily and spectacularly wrong. Nick was operating off the best version of events he had on Saturday night, and writing as a faithful Catholic and pro-lifer who has the highest expectations of his compatriots, not as a social-justice activist. As soon as better evidence emerged, we deleted the post.&quot;

Why is it running real-time, unfiltered reactions by its individual writers?

A magazine that fancies itself as intellectual conservatism should be more reflective and cautious.

Being Twitter before there was a Twitter should inform its editors that the Corner is a bad idea.

&lt;b&gt;The way to stop the rush to judgment is to stop rushing to judgment.&lt;/b&gt;

But in a clickbait world, it is better to ruin the life of a minor and apologize than it is to act like an adult. The Corner generates too much traffic to quit.

Question: Why was Frankovich posting at 2:55 AM?

Nothing good ever comes at that time of day except the birth of a baby.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments from Don Surber, encountered via other posts on the Covington Crisis.</p>
<p><a href="https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/01/when-caught-blame-trump.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/01/when-caught-blame-trump.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Then there is National Review&#8217;s apology. Titled, &#8220;The Covington Affair,&#8221; the 561-word piece said in Paragraph Four, &#8220;In this business, all we can do is own up to mistakes when they happen. We apologize to our readers and especially to the Covington students, who didn’t need us piling on.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>The magazine didn&#8217;t need to be saying a word about the kids who were in Washington to protest abortion, something the magazine claims to oppose.</p>
<p>The magazine indulged in the very same virtue signaling it denounced liberals for.</b></p>
<p>National Review blamed its rush on judgment on its push to rush to judgment.</p>
<p>The publication said, &#8220;A word on the Nick Frankovich Corner post. As longtime readers know, the Corner is our group blog that encourages real-time, unfiltered reactions by our individual writers (it was basically Twitter before the advent of Twitter). There is always a peril in that. Occasionally, we’ll get something hastily and spectacularly wrong. Nick was operating off the best version of events he had on Saturday night, and writing as a faithful Catholic and pro-lifer who has the highest expectations of his compatriots, not as a social-justice activist. As soon as better evidence emerged, we deleted the post.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it running real-time, unfiltered reactions by its individual writers?</p>
<p>A magazine that fancies itself as intellectual conservatism should be more reflective and cautious.</p>
<p>Being Twitter before there was a Twitter should inform its editors that the Corner is a bad idea.</p>
<p><b>The way to stop the rush to judgment is to stop rushing to judgment.</b></p>
<p>But in a clickbait world, it is better to ruin the life of a minor and apologize than it is to act like an adult. The Corner generates too much traffic to quit.</p>
<p>Question: Why was Frankovich posting at 2:55 AM?</p>
<p>Nothing good ever comes at that time of day except the birth of a baby.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2019/01/22/frankovichs-apology-and-the-atlantics-attempt-at-a-corrective-on-the-nature-of-truth/#comment-2420217</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 04:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NR is not the only ones refusing to proffer a real apology.

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/01/22/catholic-leaders-refuse-to-retract-slander-of-school-boys-at-march-for-life/

&quot;Without apologizing to the boys for its rash accusation, the Baltimore Archdiocese released a statement to “clarify” its earlier declaration, acknowledging that “the circumstances of this confrontation at the Lincoln Memorial are now being reported as more complex and it will be the responsibility of school authorities, parents and others involved to determine the actual circumstances, responsibility and consequences.”

For his part, Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Saint Louis said he joined “in condemning the actions of the Covington Catholic students towards Mr. Nathan Phillips and the Native American Community yesterday in Washington.”

Despite the abundant new evidence exonerating the students from wrongdoing, as of this writing Archbishop Kurtz has not apologized for slandering the boys and his original statement is still on his website.&quot;

What happened to all those Christian virtues they were selling earlier this week, when they thought it was the boys who were lacking?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR is not the only ones refusing to proffer a real apology.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/01/22/catholic-leaders-refuse-to-retract-slander-of-school-boys-at-march-for-life/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/01/22/catholic-leaders-refuse-to-retract-slander-of-school-boys-at-march-for-life/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Without apologizing to the boys for its rash accusation, the Baltimore Archdiocese released a statement to “clarify” its earlier declaration, acknowledging that “the circumstances of this confrontation at the Lincoln Memorial are now being reported as more complex and it will be the responsibility of school authorities, parents and others involved to determine the actual circumstances, responsibility and consequences.”</p>
<p>For his part, Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Saint Louis said he joined “in condemning the actions of the Covington Catholic students towards Mr. Nathan Phillips and the Native American Community yesterday in Washington.”</p>
<p>Despite the abundant new evidence exonerating the students from wrongdoing, as of this writing Archbishop Kurtz has not apologized for slandering the boys and his original statement is still on his website.&#8221;</p>
<p>What happened to all those Christian virtues they were selling earlier this week, when they thought it was the boys who were lacking?</p>
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		By: KyndyllG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 02:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: I am controlled by two conflicting instincts: to defend what is right, and to take care of those who depend on me. This internal conflict is further balanced by reality: I actually can take care of my family but there isn&#039;t squat I can do to save the world. So there is where I stand. This nation is infested with a horde of zombies that cannot be reasoned with, that will happily destroy any person in their path, and I have no desire to see my family ruined for no purpose other than for me, in my hubris and arrogance, to make a useless, one-minute stand for what is right. Should the time come when no one needs me anymore, or if there is no outcome in which my household can remain secure, I am not averse to choosing a hill to die on, most especially if I can find a hill that matters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: I am controlled by two conflicting instincts: to defend what is right, and to take care of those who depend on me. This internal conflict is further balanced by reality: I actually can take care of my family but there isn&#8217;t squat I can do to save the world. So there is where I stand. This nation is infested with a horde of zombies that cannot be reasoned with, that will happily destroy any person in their path, and I have no desire to see my family ruined for no purpose other than for me, in my hubris and arrogance, to make a useless, one-minute stand for what is right. Should the time come when no one needs me anymore, or if there is no outcome in which my household can remain secure, I am not averse to choosing a hill to die on, most especially if I can find a hill that matters.</p>
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		By: magnus dalen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magnus dalen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 01:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apologies don&#039;t cut it here.  They are never sufficient when actual harm has been caused. They better figure out some awfully good reparations &#038; tell us their new procedures to ensure that such &quot;errors&quot; don&#039;t recur.  

National Review&#039;s editors &#038; publisher are responsible for their published content, so they should stop trying to weasel out of it – that&#039;s just chickens**t &#038; should be a firing offense.

There&#039;s a reason why NR is circling the drain &#038; will soon join The Weekly Standard in the dumpster, unless they quickly get their act together. Unlike the Left, we will hold our publications accountable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies don&#8217;t cut it here.  They are never sufficient when actual harm has been caused. They better figure out some awfully good reparations &amp; tell us their new procedures to ensure that such &#8220;errors&#8221; don&#8217;t recur.  </p>
<p>National Review&#8217;s editors &amp; publisher are responsible for their published content, so they should stop trying to weasel out of it – that&#8217;s just chickens**t &amp; should be a firing offense.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason why NR is circling the drain &amp; will soon join The Weekly Standard in the dumpster, unless they quickly get their act together. Unlike the Left, we will hold our publications accountable.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kyndyll:

I have never felt the need to join the club in that way, not since I was about 7 years old.

It has cost me some.  I&#039;m not holding myself out to be brave, however, in terms of risking life or limb.  But I have risked social ties and I have lost quite a few.

I also spoke up when I was in grad school, and even when my fellow classmates would come up to me privately and support my point of view but were afraid to stand up in public because it might hurt their grades or their recommendations.

It never hurt either my grades or recommendations, as it turns out.  But I had the freedom not to really care all that much about either by that time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyndyll:</p>
<p>I have never felt the need to join the club in that way, not since I was about 7 years old.</p>
<p>It has cost me some.  I&#8217;m not holding myself out to be brave, however, in terms of risking life or limb.  But I have risked social ties and I have lost quite a few.</p>
<p>I also spoke up when I was in grad school, and even when my fellow classmates would come up to me privately and support my point of view but were afraid to stand up in public because it might hurt their grades or their recommendations.</p>
<p>It never hurt either my grades or recommendations, as it turns out.  But I had the freedom not to really care all that much about either by that time.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann:

The post I linked to (in ADDENDUM II) by Ace deals with that non-apology quite nicely.  

Well worth reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann:</p>
<p>The post I linked to (in ADDENDUM II) by Ace deals with that non-apology quite nicely.  </p>
<p>Well worth reading.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I so DO hope they&#039;re sued.
I do hope they&#039;re sued.
I do hope they&#039;re sued.

... and the abused teens winning would be even better.

It&#039;s NOT a real apology by a news person who hasn&#039;t resigned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so DO hope they&#8217;re sued.<br />
I do hope they&#8217;re sued.<br />
I do hope they&#8217;re sued.</p>
<p>&#8230; and the abused teens winning would be even better.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s NOT a real apology by a news person who hasn&#8217;t resigned.</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This staged hit job is like Reichstag Fire provocation. The war is declared. Now begin to fight back seriously. This is another Flight 93 moment. Be resolute and merciless. The stakes are actually bigger than anybody can imagine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This staged hit job is like Reichstag Fire provocation. The war is declared. Now begin to fight back seriously. This is another Flight 93 moment. Be resolute and merciless. The stakes are actually bigger than anybody can imagine.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[National Review has an &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-affair/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;editorial&lt;/a&gt; up now on &quot;The Covington Affair&quot; -- this part touches on Frankovich:&lt;blockquote&gt;A word on the Nick Frankovich Corner post. As longtime readers know, the Corner is our group blog that encourages real-time, unfiltered reactions by our individual writers (it was basically Twitter before the advent of Twitter). There is always a peril in that. Occasionally, we’ll get something hastily and spectacularly wrong. Nick was operating off the best version of events he had on Saturday night, and writing as a faithful Catholic and pro-lifer who has the highest expectations of his compatriots, not as a social-justice activist. As soon as better evidence emerged, we deleted the post.

In this business, all we can do is own up to mistakes when they happen. We apologize to our readers and especially to the Covington students, who didn’t need us piling on. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National Review has an <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-affair/" rel="nofollow">editorial</a> up now on &#8220;The Covington Affair&#8221; &#8212; this part touches on Frankovich:</p>
<blockquote><p>A word on the Nick Frankovich Corner post. As longtime readers know, the Corner is our group blog that encourages real-time, unfiltered reactions by our individual writers (it was basically Twitter before the advent of Twitter). There is always a peril in that. Occasionally, we’ll get something hastily and spectacularly wrong. Nick was operating off the best version of events he had on Saturday night, and writing as a faithful Catholic and pro-lifer who has the highest expectations of his compatriots, not as a social-justice activist. As soon as better evidence emerged, we deleted the post.</p>
<p>In this business, all we can do is own up to mistakes when they happen. We apologize to our readers and especially to the Covington students, who didn’t need us piling on. </p></blockquote>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel proud that I excluded National Review from my daily reading list 6 years ago after they purged John Derbyshire with explanation for that reeking sheer hypocrisy. I hate such dishonesty in journalism being fed propaganda lies for 4 decades in Soviet Union. To see something like this in allegedly conservative blog in a free country is more than I can tolerate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel proud that I excluded National Review from my daily reading list 6 years ago after they purged John Derbyshire with explanation for that reeking sheer hypocrisy. I hate such dishonesty in journalism being fed propaganda lies for 4 decades in Soviet Union. To see something like this in allegedly conservative blog in a free country is more than I can tolerate.</p>
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