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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is too funny not to share (h/t commenter at AccordingToHoyt):

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/01/cbs-caught-trump-in-lie-hilarity-ensues.html

&quot;CBS decided to help Democrats by fact-checking in real time President Trump&#039;s address on the need for a wall.

CBS reported, &quot;Fact check: Number of women sexually assaulted on trip to border.

&quot;CLAIM: The president claimed one in three women have been sexually assaulted traveling to the border.

&quot;FACT CHECK: Between 60 percent and 80 percent of female migrants traveling through Mexico are raped along the way, Amnesty International estimates.&quot;

Hilarious. Who is in charge? Ralph Wiggum?

Thanks for making the president&#039;s point.

&lt;b&gt;The network later scrubbed that from its fact-check.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Heh.
Well, the President did have alternative facts here, but that isn&#039;t really the kind of lie Jim Acosta wanted to know about.

On the now-revised CBS post, they checked 5 statements, confirmed 3 as true (and possibly understated), 1 as true-but-needing-context (heh), and one as false.
&quot;CLAIM: The president claimed the barrier will be steel rather than concrete &quot;at the request of Democrats.&quot;

FACT CHECK: Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said this claim is &quot;false.&quot; Democratic leadership has not expressed support for steel barriers.&quot;

Democratic leadership has not expressed support for ANY barriers.
Not all democrats are leadership; anyway, I don&#039;t see why a &quot;he-said, she-said&quot; should automatically fall to the Dems.

FWIW, the CBS post does include full transcripts of Trump and Schumer/Pelosi speeches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is too funny not to share (h/t commenter at AccordingToHoyt):</p>
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<p>&#8220;CBS decided to help Democrats by fact-checking in real time President Trump&#8217;s address on the need for a wall.</p>
<p>CBS reported, &#8220;Fact check: Number of women sexually assaulted on trip to border.</p>
<p>&#8220;CLAIM: The president claimed one in three women have been sexually assaulted traveling to the border.</p>
<p>&#8220;FACT CHECK: Between 60 percent and 80 percent of female migrants traveling through Mexico are raped along the way, Amnesty International estimates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hilarious. Who is in charge? Ralph Wiggum?</p>
<p>Thanks for making the president&#8217;s point.</p>
<p><b>The network later scrubbed that from its fact-check.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Heh.<br />
Well, the President did have alternative facts here, but that isn&#8217;t really the kind of lie Jim Acosta wanted to know about.</p>
<p>On the now-revised CBS post, they checked 5 statements, confirmed 3 as true (and possibly understated), 1 as true-but-needing-context (heh), and one as false.<br />
&#8220;CLAIM: The president claimed the barrier will be steel rather than concrete &#8220;at the request of Democrats.&#8221;</p>
<p>FACT CHECK: Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said this claim is &#8220;false.&#8221; Democratic leadership has not expressed support for steel barriers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Democratic leadership has not expressed support for ANY barriers.<br />
Not all democrats are leadership; anyway, I don&#8217;t see why a &#8220;he-said, she-said&#8221; should automatically fall to the Dems.</p>
<p>FWIW, the CBS post does include full transcripts of Trump and Schumer/Pelosi speeches.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 03:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JFM on January 9, 2019 at 11:37 am at 11:37 am said:
If the Democrats in Congress want to admit more legal immigrants from Central and South America, why don’t they pass the appropriate legislation?

It’s amazing how good DJT is exposing the Democrats’ actual agendas.
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Legal immigrants have to be paid on par with citizens, including all the minimums, taxes, insurance, Social Security, etc.  That doesn&#039;t help the cheap-labor faction at all.
Legal immigrants have a better opportunity to get an education, become citizens and vote legally, become entrepreneurs and become rich (thus the push by Obama to semi-legalize illegals), and have a higher probability of becoming Republican voters. That doesn&#039;t help the Democrats at all.

I&#039;m now going over to read Neo&#039;s post on why the GOP didn&#039;t fix the immigration laws when they had the votes (&quot;give us the House and we can get things done..well, you have to give us the Senate, too...well, we really have to have the President on our side too...Hmmm, now what will we tell the voters?&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFM on January 9, 2019 at 11:37 am at 11:37 am said:<br />
If the Democrats in Congress want to admit more legal immigrants from Central and South America, why don’t they pass the appropriate legislation?</p>
<p>It’s amazing how good DJT is exposing the Democrats’ actual agendas.<br />
* * *<br />
Legal immigrants have to be paid on par with citizens, including all the minimums, taxes, insurance, Social Security, etc.  That doesn&#8217;t help the cheap-labor faction at all.<br />
Legal immigrants have a better opportunity to get an education, become citizens and vote legally, become entrepreneurs and become rich (thus the push by Obama to semi-legalize illegals), and have a higher probability of becoming Republican voters. That doesn&#8217;t help the Democrats at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now going over to read Neo&#8217;s post on why the GOP didn&#8217;t fix the immigration laws when they had the votes (&#8220;give us the House and we can get things done..well, you have to give us the Senate, too&#8230;well, we really have to have the President on our side too&#8230;Hmmm, now what will we tell the voters?&#8221;)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 03:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Manju on January 9, 2019 at 6:07 am at 6:07 am said:
Very low-energy speech. 
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And when he is high-energy, the complaint becomes &quot;he&#039;s ranting.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manju on January 9, 2019 at 6:07 am at 6:07 am said:<br />
Very low-energy speech.<br />
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And when he is high-energy, the complaint becomes &#8220;he&#8217;s ranting.&#8221;</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 17:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The tactic of Schumer &#038; Pelosi, proposing to open the government and then negotiate the money for border security, is a duplicitous move. Once the government is open again, they have zero reason to negotiate.  I think that President Trump is well aware of that. 

The only pressure I can see that will move the needle toward getting  money for the wall is for an outpouring of citizen calls and e-mails to the Congress urging them to listen to the expert recommendations of the Border Patrol. The Border Patrol wants the wall and knows the conditions on the border better than the perfumed princes and princesses in the Congress.  Of course, there are other immigration laws that must be revised to completely turn off the magnetic appeal of coming here illegally, but a proper fence with more Border Patrol officers is a big piece of the solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tactic of Schumer &amp; Pelosi, proposing to open the government and then negotiate the money for border security, is a duplicitous move. Once the government is open again, they have zero reason to negotiate.  I think that President Trump is well aware of that. </p>
<p>The only pressure I can see that will move the needle toward getting  money for the wall is for an outpouring of citizen calls and e-mails to the Congress urging them to listen to the expert recommendations of the Border Patrol. The Border Patrol wants the wall and knows the conditions on the border better than the perfumed princes and princesses in the Congress.  Of course, there are other immigration laws that must be revised to completely turn off the magnetic appeal of coming here illegally, but a proper fence with more Border Patrol officers is a big piece of the solution.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 16:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to: &quot;...establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States.&quot;

If the Democrats in Congress want to admit more legal immigrants from Central and South America, why don&#039;t they pass the appropriate legislation?

It&#039;s amazing how good DJT is exposing the Democrats&#039; actual agendas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to: &#8220;&#8230;establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the Democrats in Congress want to admit more legal immigrants from Central and South America, why don&#8217;t they pass the appropriate legislation?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how good DJT is exposing the Democrats&#8217; actual agendas.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I didn’t watch any of it. I prefer to read speeches, although sometimes I watch them.&quot; -- Neo

PUt this comment in conjunction with the &quot;Charisma&quot; post -- the best way to not be taken in by charmers (psychopaths or otherwise) is to simply not listen to them, although apparently Pres. Trump did NOT use many (any?) of the tactics described as the Charisma Leadership Techniques.

It was interesting to see the media pre-loading the public perceptions: even if he had NOT told any lies (did he?), they predisposed their listeners to hear them anyway, thus setting them up for the Democrats&#039; rebuttals and the inevitable &quot;literally but not seriously&quot; fact-checking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I didn’t watch any of it. I prefer to read speeches, although sometimes I watch them.&#8221; &#8212; Neo</p>
<p>PUt this comment in conjunction with the &#8220;Charisma&#8221; post &#8212; the best way to not be taken in by charmers (psychopaths or otherwise) is to simply not listen to them, although apparently Pres. Trump did NOT use many (any?) of the tactics described as the Charisma Leadership Techniques.</p>
<p>It was interesting to see the media pre-loading the public perceptions: even if he had NOT told any lies (did he?), they predisposed their listeners to hear them anyway, thus setting them up for the Democrats&#8217; rebuttals and the inevitable &#8220;literally but not seriously&#8221; fact-checking.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Only he didn’t build it when he had the leverage: control of both branches. Now he’s screwed. And it shows.&lt;/i&gt;

The left ignores reality once again.  There was a time, not long ago, when Trump and the Democrats were negotiating a deal for $25 billion in return for DACA legalization. Then the 9th circuit ruled that DACA recipients could not be deported. That case went to the Supreme Court, which with only 8 members, tied 4 to 4 and that means the appeals court decision stands. 

That case will go again to the USSC, now with a majority of conservative Justices. Unless Roberts goes Souter on us, the 9th will be reversed.  THEN the Democrats will negotiate again.  Meanwhile ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Only he didn’t build it when he had the leverage: control of both branches. Now he’s screwed. And it shows.</i></p>
<p>The left ignores reality once again.  There was a time, not long ago, when Trump and the Democrats were negotiating a deal for $25 billion in return for DACA legalization. Then the 9th circuit ruled that DACA recipients could not be deported. That case went to the Supreme Court, which with only 8 members, tied 4 to 4 and that means the appeals court decision stands. </p>
<p>That case will go again to the USSC, now with a majority of conservative Justices. Unless Roberts goes Souter on us, the 9th will be reversed.  THEN the Democrats will negotiate again.  Meanwhile ?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump&#039;s speech was &quot;ehh&quot; in terms of delivery and appeal.  He said what was needed, but he is really at his best when he&#039;s free form and not on a teleprompter trying for gravitas.

That being said, Schumer and Pelosi....OMG!  My first thought was, &quot;It&#039;s a new episode of the Walking Dead!&quot;  Could any two people look more cadaverous and zombie like?  The twitter responses have been hilarious.  Remember, that ridicule is a powerful weapon.

The reason I&#039;m focusing on the styles of each speech rather than substance, as Neo does, is because I think most people first react to the style before they get to the substance.  Trump&#039;s style was a bit better, but I doubt he scored too many points.  The S&#038;P act was downright painful to watch.  Advantage Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump&#8217;s speech was &#8220;ehh&#8221; in terms of delivery and appeal.  He said what was needed, but he is really at his best when he&#8217;s free form and not on a teleprompter trying for gravitas.</p>
<p>That being said, Schumer and Pelosi&#8230;.OMG!  My first thought was, &#8220;It&#8217;s a new episode of the Walking Dead!&#8221;  Could any two people look more cadaverous and zombie like?  The twitter responses have been hilarious.  Remember, that ridicule is a powerful weapon.</p>
<p>The reason I&#8217;m focusing on the styles of each speech rather than substance, as Neo does, is because I think most people first react to the style before they get to the substance.  Trump&#8217;s style was a bit better, but I doubt he scored too many points.  The S&amp;P act was downright painful to watch.  Advantage Trump.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the start of Trump&#039;s 3rd year in office, the first two with a &quot;Rep&quot; controlled Congress.  One that never offered him a budget that had funding for a Wall.  Twice he agreed to &quot;continuing resolutions&quot; to fund the gov&#039;t, without money for the Wall.  The last time he said, this will be last budget I sign without money for a Wall.

Last time, if Trump had refused to sign the &quot;Rep&quot; proposed budget, without Wall money, it would be Trump&#039;s shutdown.  Many of those RINO-Reps are gone; and so is the Rep majority in the House, altho there is a stronger majority of Reps in the Senate.

Now, any shutdown is because the Dem House refuses, like the prior RINO House, to put in money for the Wall, but it&#039;s now Trump for Wall vs Dems,  not vs (RINO) Reps.

Trump&#039;s key message: &quot;Walls are not because those kept out are hated, but because those inside are loved.&quot;

The Dems do NOT love American voters (especially those who vote Trump).

Dems will cave, and give money for the Wall, tho maybe Trump will cave some too (on DREAMers? or something Rubio wants?)  I sort of hope Trump waits longer and just gets the money without giving up anything, but he does love to &quot;Make a Deal&quot;... to him it&#039;s an art. He&#039;s a deal artist.  He wrote a book about it (even before helping Kevin find the lobby in Home Alone 2, which we recently saw again and had forgotten about).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the start of Trump&#8217;s 3rd year in office, the first two with a &#8220;Rep&#8221; controlled Congress.  One that never offered him a budget that had funding for a Wall.  Twice he agreed to &#8220;continuing resolutions&#8221; to fund the gov&#8217;t, without money for the Wall.  The last time he said, this will be last budget I sign without money for a Wall.</p>
<p>Last time, if Trump had refused to sign the &#8220;Rep&#8221; proposed budget, without Wall money, it would be Trump&#8217;s shutdown.  Many of those RINO-Reps are gone; and so is the Rep majority in the House, altho there is a stronger majority of Reps in the Senate.</p>
<p>Now, any shutdown is because the Dem House refuses, like the prior RINO House, to put in money for the Wall, but it&#8217;s now Trump for Wall vs Dems,  not vs (RINO) Reps.</p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s key message: &#8220;Walls are not because those kept out are hated, but because those inside are loved.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Dems do NOT love American voters (especially those who vote Trump).</p>
<p>Dems will cave, and give money for the Wall, tho maybe Trump will cave some too (on DREAMers? or something Rubio wants?)  I sort of hope Trump waits longer and just gets the money without giving up anything, but he does love to &#8220;Make a Deal&#8221;&#8230; to him it&#8217;s an art. He&#8217;s a deal artist.  He wrote a book about it (even before helping Kevin find the lobby in Home Alone 2, which we recently saw again and had forgotten about).</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...almost...&quot;

Almost indeed.

In fact, John Hinderaker---amazingly---agrees with you! (That is, if you stop reading his post after the seventh word....)
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/trump-kills-it.php

File under: Almost almost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;almost&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Almost indeed.</p>
<p>In fact, John Hinderaker&#8212;amazingly&#8212;agrees with you! (That is, if you stop reading his post after the seventh word&#8230;.)<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/trump-kills-it.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/trump-kills-it.php</a></p>
<p>File under: Almost almost.</p>
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