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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414711</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2018 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s one for ya.

According to today&#039;s Washington Times, the GAO reports that over the last 4 years USAID has paid some $27 million in taxpayer dollars to &quot;ease re-integration&quot; for illegal aliens the U.S. deports back to their home countries in Central America, who get what is, in effect, a &quot;nice try&quot; CARE package from the U.S., which includes things like toilet paper, school supplies, and even toys for their kids.   

See  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/7/american-taxpayers-27m-ease-deportees-lives/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one for ya.</p>
<p>According to today&#8217;s Washington Times, the GAO reports that over the last 4 years USAID has paid some $27 million in taxpayer dollars to &#8220;ease re-integration&#8221; for illegal aliens the U.S. deports back to their home countries in Central America, who get what is, in effect, a &#8220;nice try&#8221; CARE package from the U.S., which includes things like toilet paper, school supplies, and even toys for their kids.   </p>
<p>See  <a href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/7/american-taxpayers-27m-ease-deportees-lives/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/7/american-taxpayers-27m-ease-deportees-lives/</a></p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414536</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2018 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K,
As Milton Friedman said, the record of history is crystal clear, (paraphrasing now) leftist governments stink economically.  What&#039;s a bit amazing, is that the U.S. economy&#039;s response to Trump&#039;s policies was almost immediate.  This is the forward looking nature of trading markets, especially the futures markets.  Of course, those very early responses are guesses and projections, but even those have very real consequences, especially if the projections are correct.

More to your point, can a greatly improved economy be leveraged politically?  I think the GOP should have tried harder too; and they still should try harder now.

Friedman says in &quot;Money Mischief&quot; I believe, that the psychology of a strong economy (and the expectation of inflation) sets in when many of those salaried workers get bonuses or pay increases.  This is also partly why the Fed is fixated on a higher baseline inflation rate; people get pay raises even in a flat economy.

I suppose that the GOP country club set thinks, &quot;Gee, we don&#039;t have to do anything, the pay increases make the selling point for us.&quot;  They perhaps miss the fact that we all now live in a world awash in advertising and propaganda, and they need to get in the game or die.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K,<br />
As Milton Friedman said, the record of history is crystal clear, (paraphrasing now) leftist governments stink economically.  What&#8217;s a bit amazing, is that the U.S. economy&#8217;s response to Trump&#8217;s policies was almost immediate.  This is the forward looking nature of trading markets, especially the futures markets.  Of course, those very early responses are guesses and projections, but even those have very real consequences, especially if the projections are correct.</p>
<p>More to your point, can a greatly improved economy be leveraged politically?  I think the GOP should have tried harder too; and they still should try harder now.</p>
<p>Friedman says in &#8220;Money Mischief&#8221; I believe, that the psychology of a strong economy (and the expectation of inflation) sets in when many of those salaried workers get bonuses or pay increases.  This is also partly why the Fed is fixated on a higher baseline inflation rate; people get pay raises even in a flat economy.</p>
<p>I suppose that the GOP country club set thinks, &#8220;Gee, we don&#8217;t have to do anything, the pay increases make the selling point for us.&#8221;  They perhaps miss the fact that we all now live in a world awash in advertising and propaganda, and they need to get in the game or die.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414385</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The state legislature kept ruling that we did not have enough “affordable housing” &lt;/i&gt;

Or, as Mr. Sailer calls it &#039;awardable housing&#039;.  Dwellings with concessionary rents create patronage opportunities for insiders.  Accept a Section 8 voucher, the transactions costs of evicting a problem tenant are jacked up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The state legislature kept ruling that we did not have enough “affordable housing” </i></p>
<p>Or, as Mr. Sailer calls it &#8216;awardable housing&#8217;.  Dwellings with concessionary rents create patronage opportunities for insiders.  Accept a Section 8 voucher, the transactions costs of evicting a problem tenant are jacked up.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414367</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is an argument, which I think has some merit, that there GOP should not have focused so much on the &quot;Caravan&quot; and spent more time talking about the economy, which is booming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an argument, which I think has some merit, that there GOP should not have focused so much on the &#8220;Caravan&#8221; and spent more time talking about the economy, which is booming.</p>
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		By: FunkyPhD		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414358</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have coronary artery disease, which means I have higher health care costs and a greater risk than others my age for future medical problems.  Since the USA doesn&#039;t (currently) have socialized medicine, I declare myself a medical refugee, and hereby request asylum in Canada.  Think that will work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have coronary artery disease, which means I have higher health care costs and a greater risk than others my age for future medical problems.  Since the USA doesn&#8217;t (currently) have socialized medicine, I declare myself a medical refugee, and hereby request asylum in Canada.  Think that will work?</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414355</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062; Mexico does not play by that rule. She expects to shunt the missery to the USA.

From what I&#039;ve read Mexico _did_ offer to take care of the caravaners, but they would have none of it.  They are not travelling to get away from Honduras, they are travelling to get to the United States, specifically.  

This whole episode has been nothing but transparent manipulation of the U.S. for political reasons, where the migrants themselves are being used by whoever is financing the caravan (someone has to be behind it... it would take millions to organize and run this thing), presumably to forward an agenda of provoking trouble, even violence, on the border in order to make the U.S., and President Trump in particular, look bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Mexico does not play by that rule. She expects to shunt the missery to the USA.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read Mexico _did_ offer to take care of the caravaners, but they would have none of it.  They are not travelling to get away from Honduras, they are travelling to get to the United States, specifically.  </p>
<p>This whole episode has been nothing but transparent manipulation of the U.S. for political reasons, where the migrants themselves are being used by whoever is financing the caravan (someone has to be behind it&#8230; it would take millions to organize and run this thing), presumably to forward an agenda of provoking trouble, even violence, on the border in order to make the U.S., and President Trump in particular, look bad.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414344</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The public interest bar are the enemies of this country.&lt;/i&gt;

I had some experience with the &quot;public interest bar&quot; when I served on a planning commission.  Developers, the state legislature and &quot;public interest law firms&quot; have an iron triangle of mutual interest in &quot;affordable housing.&quot;  Our small city in Orange County was &quot;built out&quot; almost 100% when I served on the commission.  The state legislature kept ruling that we did not have enough &quot;affordable housing&quot; after they were &quot;sued&quot; by the law firms, which in turn were funded by developers.

There deal was that the developers funded the law firms, which sued the city, creating a &quot;crisis,&quot; which then was corrected by the developers and the state paid the law firms&#039; fees. Next, the legislature would decide the criteria for affordable housing had to go up. And the cycle would repeat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The public interest bar are the enemies of this country.</i></p>
<p>I had some experience with the &#8220;public interest bar&#8221; when I served on a planning commission.  Developers, the state legislature and &#8220;public interest law firms&#8221; have an iron triangle of mutual interest in &#8220;affordable housing.&#8221;  Our small city in Orange County was &#8220;built out&#8221; almost 100% when I served on the commission.  The state legislature kept ruling that we did not have enough &#8220;affordable housing&#8221; after they were &#8220;sued&#8221; by the law firms, which in turn were funded by developers.</p>
<p>There deal was that the developers funded the law firms, which sued the city, creating a &#8220;crisis,&#8221; which then was corrected by the developers and the state paid the law firms&#8217; fees. Next, the legislature would decide the criteria for affordable housing had to go up. And the cycle would repeat.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414339</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 13:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The public interest bar are the enemies of this country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The public interest bar are the enemies of this country.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414338</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 13:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only valid asylum candidates from the Western Hemisphere (outside of migrants from Venezuela and Cuba) are people intently engaged in the public life of their country who&#039;ve run afoul of a local padrone, or a  corrupt prosecutor, or a corrupt police superintendant.  Such people will be coming in the front door on an aeroplane, wife and children in tow.   And the first question you ask them if they&#039;re not from Mexico or Haiti or the Dominican Republic is why they came here rather than going to a more convenient location.  


As for Venezuelans, set up refugee camps just outside the border.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only valid asylum candidates from the Western Hemisphere (outside of migrants from Venezuela and Cuba) are people intently engaged in the public life of their country who&#8217;ve run afoul of a local padrone, or a  corrupt prosecutor, or a corrupt police superintendant.  Such people will be coming in the front door on an aeroplane, wife and children in tow.   And the first question you ask them if they&#8217;re not from Mexico or Haiti or the Dominican Republic is why they came here rather than going to a more convenient location.  </p>
<p>As for Venezuelans, set up refugee camps just outside the border.</p>
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		By: Capn Rusty		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/12/04/on-asylum/#comment-2414313</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d add that many of those championing these &#039;migrants&#039; know that the migrants will not live inside their gated communities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add that many of those championing these &#8216;migrants&#8217; know that the migrants will not live inside their gated communities.</p>
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