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		By: Mary Catelli		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412334</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Catelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes.  NO MORE PRESS CONFERENCES.

After all, if they are so trivial that a buffoon get to interrupt them as he pleases, they can&#039;t be important enough to hold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  NO MORE PRESS CONFERENCES.</p>
<p>After all, if they are so trivial that a buffoon get to interrupt them as he pleases, they can&#8217;t be important enough to hold.</p>
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		By: MB		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412321</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bureaucrats only trust other bureaucrats.
The lack of an appropriate bureaucracy to handle the issue (here, for judging who deserves White House passes) is by itself evidence of guilt, in their eyes.
Individuals are untrustworthy, organizations are trustworthy.
This is evidence that the social compact is breaking down in the US. There is no longer a commonly agreed common-sense set of rules for conflict resolution. The first instinct is not to say &quot;why can&#039;t we discuss this and reach a compromise?&quot;, but &quot;we need a written rule to refer to&quot;.
So the only way to be fair to everyone is to have written rules for everything. And the way forward is ever more bureaucracy to enforce them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bureaucrats only trust other bureaucrats.<br />
The lack of an appropriate bureaucracy to handle the issue (here, for judging who deserves White House passes) is by itself evidence of guilt, in their eyes.<br />
Individuals are untrustworthy, organizations are trustworthy.<br />
This is evidence that the social compact is breaking down in the US. There is no longer a commonly agreed common-sense set of rules for conflict resolution. The first instinct is not to say &#8220;why can&#8217;t we discuss this and reach a compromise?&#8221;, but &#8220;we need a written rule to refer to&#8221;.<br />
So the only way to be fair to everyone is to have written rules for everything. And the way forward is ever more bureaucracy to enforce them.</p>
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		By: Hangtown Bob		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hangtown Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 14:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The President should issue a daily press release only (except for his Tweets).

The &quot;press&quot;  then has the &quot;freedom&quot; to write ANYTHING THEY WANT regarding the release or anything else.

NO MORE PRESS CONFERENCES.

Of course, the President always has the right to grant an exclusive interview with anyone he chooses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The President should issue a daily press release only (except for his Tweets).</p>
<p>The &#8220;press&#8221;  then has the &#8220;freedom&#8221; to write ANYTHING THEY WANT regarding the release or anything else.</p>
<p>NO MORE PRESS CONFERENCES.</p>
<p>Of course, the President always has the right to grant an exclusive interview with anyone he chooses.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412257</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Acosta or any &quot;jorurnalist&quot; has zero rights to be an asshole at a presser with the POTUS. Period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acosta or any &#8220;jorurnalist&#8221; has zero rights to be an asshole at a presser with the POTUS. Period.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412256</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J E Dyer articulates precisely what a lot of people around the &#039;net are saying.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/11/16/judge-cnns-acosta-gets-press-pass-back-underlying-1st-amendment-issue-not-ruled-on/

&quot;Is it seriously in the judge’s mind that the only way to protect Fifth Amendment rights is to publish rules of behavior for every such event, affirmatively ensure there’s evidence that everyone knows what they are, and then go through some specialized “due process” ritual for removing people who scream and act out?

You know leftist activists as well as I do.  That will be the only standard that would keep them from prevailing in lawsuits.  But it’s a prohibitive standard, one that simply makes town halls and other forms of public access to government officials less frequent and less likely for everyone.

This reinstatement ruling is not one we should be comfortable with.  Unless the entire Fifth Amendment argument is overruled as the case moves forward, this problem of the badly behaved ruining things for everyone else will metastasize.  When you have to start writing rules because people don’t voluntarily adhere to universal social custom, harmony evaporates and the opportunity for useful, positive group interactions shrinks drastically.  &lt;b&gt;Accommodating the badly behaved instead of ejecting them quickly limits what everyone can do as a group.  We all know how that works — from our days in grade school.&lt;/b&gt;

The second observation is that, if there’s a basis for arguing that Fifth Amendment rights aren’t really at issue here, there is also a remedy for the problem of judges ruling as if they are.  Congress has the constitutional authority to limit what the federal courts can rule on.  Perhaps it would be a good idea to consider doing that.  &lt;b&gt;For starters, I’m not a fan at all of a judge being able to order the reinstatement of any kind of pass suspended by one of the co-equal federal branches. &lt;/b&gt; We are sitting still for too much of this; it is improper, period, to see federal judges as the final arbiters of every question, whether in government or any other aspect of life.
...Should it really be necessary to develop a special, dedicated due process for removing unruly people from events in the White House?  What kind of absurd mindset about law’s nature and purpose have we entered, when the absence of such a regulatory package is held to endanger Fifth Amendment rights?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J E Dyer articulates precisely what a lot of people around the &#8216;net are saying.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/11/16/judge-cnns-acosta-gets-press-pass-back-underlying-1st-amendment-issue-not-ruled-on/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/11/16/judge-cnns-acosta-gets-press-pass-back-underlying-1st-amendment-issue-not-ruled-on/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Is it seriously in the judge’s mind that the only way to protect Fifth Amendment rights is to publish rules of behavior for every such event, affirmatively ensure there’s evidence that everyone knows what they are, and then go through some specialized “due process” ritual for removing people who scream and act out?</p>
<p>You know leftist activists as well as I do.  That will be the only standard that would keep them from prevailing in lawsuits.  But it’s a prohibitive standard, one that simply makes town halls and other forms of public access to government officials less frequent and less likely for everyone.</p>
<p>This reinstatement ruling is not one we should be comfortable with.  Unless the entire Fifth Amendment argument is overruled as the case moves forward, this problem of the badly behaved ruining things for everyone else will metastasize.  When you have to start writing rules because people don’t voluntarily adhere to universal social custom, harmony evaporates and the opportunity for useful, positive group interactions shrinks drastically.  <b>Accommodating the badly behaved instead of ejecting them quickly limits what everyone can do as a group.  We all know how that works — from our days in grade school.</b></p>
<p>The second observation is that, if there’s a basis for arguing that Fifth Amendment rights aren’t really at issue here, there is also a remedy for the problem of judges ruling as if they are.  Congress has the constitutional authority to limit what the federal courts can rule on.  Perhaps it would be a good idea to consider doing that.  <b>For starters, I’m not a fan at all of a judge being able to order the reinstatement of any kind of pass suspended by one of the co-equal federal branches. </b> We are sitting still for too much of this; it is improper, period, to see federal judges as the final arbiters of every question, whether in government or any other aspect of life.<br />
&#8230;Should it really be necessary to develop a special, dedicated due process for removing unruly people from events in the White House?  What kind of absurd mindset about law’s nature and purpose have we entered, when the absence of such a regulatory package is held to endanger Fifth Amendment rights?&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412249</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From LI commenter:
Matt_SE &#124; November 16, 2018 at 4:38 pm
Trump should say that Acosta was afforded due process but the standards of behavior are proprietary and secret, just like Facebook’s.

From WWD commenter:
Ed Cross III • 4 hours ago
Had Acosta spoken like that to Obama, CNN would have fired him that afternoon and his career would be over.

* * *
Not much to add to that, except it&#039;s interesting to see some people saying the judge shafted Trump and the Constitution, and others that the judge gave Trump a back-handed win.
Note to the Trump is Hitler crowd: Hitler never agreed to follow a judge&#039;s ruling that went against him (if indeed there ever was a judge who had the temerity to issue one).

I do agree that, if the President doesn&#039;t like the incivility, he has every right to leave, but that the Precious Press will then pout about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From LI commenter:<br />
Matt_SE | November 16, 2018 at 4:38 pm<br />
Trump should say that Acosta was afforded due process but the standards of behavior are proprietary and secret, just like Facebook’s.</p>
<p>From WWD commenter:<br />
Ed Cross III • 4 hours ago<br />
Had Acosta spoken like that to Obama, CNN would have fired him that afternoon and his career would be over.</p>
<p>* * *<br />
Not much to add to that, except it&#8217;s interesting to see some people saying the judge shafted Trump and the Constitution, and others that the judge gave Trump a back-handed win.<br />
Note to the Trump is Hitler crowd: Hitler never agreed to follow a judge&#8217;s ruling that went against him (if indeed there ever was a judge who had the temerity to issue one).</p>
<p>I do agree that, if the President doesn&#8217;t like the incivility, he has every right to leave, but that the Precious Press will then pout about it.</p>
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		By: Maelene		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maelene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 04:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann Althouse has an interesting post
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/11/how-trump-won-acosta-lawsuit.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann Althouse has an interesting post<br />
<a href="https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/11/how-trump-won-acosta-lawsuit.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/11/how-trump-won-acosta-lawsuit.html</a></p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 03:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee,

Yes, letting the inmates run the asylum always works out well...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,</p>
<p>Yes, letting the inmates run the asylum always works out well&#8230;</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 03:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Obviously Trump could stop bad behavior like that of Acosta by staring silently at anyone who persists in asking questions once he has called for the next question&quot;&lt;/i&gt; y81

Yeah, all Trump has to do is stare at Acosta and Acosta will stop his bad behavior... right. BTW, that&#039;s not &quot;pretty silly&quot;, it&#039;s appalling ignorant of the media&#039;s motivations. News flash! Those &#039;reporters&#039; are there to attack Trump not to honestly report on the Trump administration&#039;s statements. Acosta is just more upfront about his hostility to Trump. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The law tends not to look kindly on people who can’t stop their own mouths.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

It was Acosta who couldn&#039;t stop his mouth not Trump. Yet the &#039;judge&#039; ruled in favor of Acosta, inventing &#039;law&#039; out of whole cloth. More of that &#039;penumbra&#039; of the law leftist/liberal judges are so fond of citing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Obviously Trump could stop bad behavior like that of Acosta by staring silently at anyone who persists in asking questions once he has called for the next question&#8221;</i> y81</p>
<p>Yeah, all Trump has to do is stare at Acosta and Acosta will stop his bad behavior&#8230; right. BTW, that&#8217;s not &#8220;pretty silly&#8221;, it&#8217;s appalling ignorant of the media&#8217;s motivations. News flash! Those &#8216;reporters&#8217; are there to attack Trump not to honestly report on the Trump administration&#8217;s statements. Acosta is just more upfront about his hostility to Trump. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;The law tends not to look kindly on people who can’t stop their own mouths.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>It was Acosta who couldn&#8217;t stop his mouth not Trump. Yet the &#8216;judge&#8217; ruled in favor of Acosta, inventing &#8216;law&#8217; out of whole cloth. More of that &#8216;penumbra&#8217; of the law leftist/liberal judges are so fond of citing.</p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/16/acostas-back-for-now/#comment-2412236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 02:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone had a funny suggestion that I rather like: Call on Acosta and let him dominate the press conference. Don&#039;t do anything to him, just let him be. Don&#039;t answer him, don&#039;t engage him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone had a funny suggestion that I rather like: Call on Acosta and let him dominate the press conference. Don&#8217;t do anything to him, just let him be. Don&#8217;t answer him, don&#8217;t engage him.</p>
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