Comments on: Camille Paglia, women, and #MeToo https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/ A blog about political change, among other things Thu, 15 Nov 2018 06:27:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411981 Thu, 15 Nov 2018 06:27:02 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411981 Kate on November 13, 2018 at 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm said:
Yup, huxley. I have lived in India (majority Hindu, large minority Muslim), and Egypt (very large majority Muslim). The situation of women in each is not good in general. Western-educated families treat their women reasonably well. The women in the villages and the slums are not free and are not especially safe. Women in the US who wail about the “patriarchy” have no idea what they’re talking about.

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Sarah Hoyt addresses that from time to time, having been born and raised in Portugal.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411980 Thu, 15 Nov 2018 06:25:15 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411980 Neo – ah, but if someone DID have a cover persona, how would you know?
😉

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411875 Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:23:24 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411875 AesopFan:

Believe me, the hyper-rational women I know do not have a protective cover persona. 🙂

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411866 Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:04:26 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411866 “I blame soybeans.” — Yackums

LOL – I’ve heard it said.
So I did what any rational person would do and Googled it.
The front page all concurs that your soy protein shake isn’t going to make you want to wear pajamas all day.
(Although maybe their suppression of conservative sources extends to manipulating search results to mislead concerned manly men.)

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-much-soy-can-you-really-eat-before-it-affects-your-testosterone-w479484/

Anecdotal proof: many Japanese soldiers throughout history have shown no lack of toxic aggression.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411865 Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:01:06 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411865 “There are hyper-rational women and very emotional men, for example. Plenty of them. But I do believe that the percentages of the former are lower among women than among men, and the percentages of the latter are lower among men than among women.” — Neo
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This is true; however, I wish I could find a hard study of just how large those percentages are.

“I have emotions, too. But many of the significant others in my life have complained about my hyper-rationality. … I will add that I know quite a few women I would call hyper-rational” — Neo to Art Deco

One thing I have observed that can lower the perception of the percentages is that many hyper-rational women and hyper-emotional men learned early in life that they were outliers from the stereotypes, and learned to adopt a protective cover persona.

]]> By: Yackums https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411840 Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:41:26 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411840 “Any correlation with the decades-long gradual decline in sperm counts? Is it something in the water that quenches manliness?”

“…the irrationality not just of so many women, but of so many men as well. And that seems to be increasing, too.”

I blame soybeans.

]]> By: neo https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411672 Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:41:49 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411672 Art Deco:

You’ve never met me, then.

It’s not that I’m Spock. I have emotions, too. But many of the significant others in my life have complained about my hyper-rationality. It’s not always something people are happy about.

I will add that I know quite a few women I would call hyper-rational. A lot of them are in research fields. Not all of them are my absolute favorite people to be around. But they are very rational both in their public and their private lives.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411669 Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:14:08 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411669 There are hyper-rational women

Not sure I’ve met one. My circle of friends once included a dyke currently employed as an engineer at a nuclear power plant. She’s not hyper-rational.

“and very emotional angry men, for example. Plenty of them”

FIFY

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411666 Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:08:41 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411666 “Men want sex; the price is marriage. Women want marriage; the price is sex.”

It’s crassly reductionist. It’s also false.

1. A comfortable majority of divorces are initiated by wives, a phenomenon that is even more pronounced when the marriage includes children. Some women want marriage. Other women want certain accoutrements which come with marriage.

2. It’s fashionable to speak of men as if they were the sum of their appetites. That it’s fashionable doesn’t render it non-stupid.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2018/11/12/camille-paglia-women-and-metoo/#comment-2411661 Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:01:16 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=82343#comment-2411661 Fifty years ago, in college, I had occasion to take women I knew not at all well, or barely, home from a party or meeting three times. It was not supposed to happen but contingencies intervened and so I answered.
Not today. Even an honest young woman, in the hands of a skilled Student Life professional can be manipulated to think she was assaulted or raped.
See the Amherst case.
Not today.

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