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		By: Roy Nathanson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/30/guy-with-gun-stops-shooter/#comment-2409851</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2018 18:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The point of this story is about how little attention is paid to the shootings that get thwarted. It is a very similar phenomena to the economics concept of lost opportunity. 

Our culture insists on responding to tragedy and emotion instead of statistics and reason. All one has to do to get money from the public treasury is to proclaim, &quot;It&#039;s for the children.&quot;

Politics, done right, should be dull and boring.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of this story is about how little attention is paid to the shootings that get thwarted. It is a very similar phenomena to the economics concept of lost opportunity. </p>
<p>Our culture insists on responding to tragedy and emotion instead of statistics and reason. All one has to do to get money from the public treasury is to proclaim, &#8220;It&#8217;s for the children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Politics, done right, should be dull and boring.</p>
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		By: John H.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/30/guy-with-gun-stops-shooter/#comment-2409840</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2018 17:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,
You ask/ wonder about the fathers firearms training many gun ranges offer training courses available to public here in Va. Safe side tactical offers many courses on self defense and when one gets a concealed carry permit they are made aware of the legal and moral risks one assumes when packing.
This is why in my opinion both the crime rate and the injury rate to bystanders is lower for CCWP holders than it is for even law enforcement officers.
Most people who are not prevented from protecting themselves realize the need from proper training most of those living in non constitutional states NY NJ Conn. etc. a summer civilians just fire away Willy nelly nothing could be further from the truth. Thank the media.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,<br />
You ask/ wonder about the fathers firearms training many gun ranges offer training courses available to public here in Va. Safe side tactical offers many courses on self defense and when one gets a concealed carry permit they are made aware of the legal and moral risks one assumes when packing.<br />
This is why in my opinion both the crime rate and the injury rate to bystanders is lower for CCWP holders than it is for even law enforcement officers.<br />
Most people who are not prevented from protecting themselves realize the need from proper training most of those living in non constitutional states NY NJ Conn. etc. a summer civilians just fire away Willy nelly nothing could be further from the truth. Thank the media.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/30/guy-with-gun-stops-shooter/#comment-2409812</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2018 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay on October 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm said:
At the time, I thought that the Bataclan massacre in Paris was such a massive atrocity that no serious person could subsequently imagine that these places don’t require armed defenders at some capacity. There were two hero cops that entered the building well before the large SWAT force was able(?) to organize.
* * *
Thanks for the story, I missed it at the time.
This is what heroism looks like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay on October 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm said:<br />
At the time, I thought that the Bataclan massacre in Paris was such a massive atrocity that no serious person could subsequently imagine that these places don’t require armed defenders at some capacity. There were two hero cops that entered the building well before the large SWAT force was able(?) to organize.<br />
* * *<br />
Thanks for the story, I missed it at the time.<br />
This is what heroism looks like.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/30/guy-with-gun-stops-shooter/#comment-2409802</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2018 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the time, I thought that the Bataclan massacre in Paris was such a massive atrocity that no serious person could subsequently imagine that these places don&#039;t require armed defenders at some capacity.  There were two hero cops that entered the building well before the large SWAT force was able(?) to organize.

I&#039;ve read several snippets on what these two guys did and it seemed as though journalists just can&#039;t tell these stories coherently.  Today I found &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12052332/Paris-attacks-Officer-recounts-killing-Bataclan-terrorist-then-calling-wife-to-say-goodbye.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a good one from The Telegraph&lt;/a&gt; where the lead officer told the story in his own words.

They were &quot;commando&quot; members of the BRI force, which functions above beat cops but below SWAT forces, if I understand correctly.

Originally, I was super impressed at the courage and skill of these two guys because I thought they had engaged the rifle toting terrorist with their pistols at a range of maybe 60 meters.  Well, the correct range was 25 m.  It is still an incredible story, partly because two of the terrorists detonated their suicide vests in response, and the other terrorists subsequently went into a fully defensive posture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the time, I thought that the Bataclan massacre in Paris was such a massive atrocity that no serious person could subsequently imagine that these places don&#8217;t require armed defenders at some capacity.  There were two hero cops that entered the building well before the large SWAT force was able(?) to organize.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read several snippets on what these two guys did and it seemed as though journalists just can&#8217;t tell these stories coherently.  Today I found <a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12052332/Paris-attacks-Officer-recounts-killing-Bataclan-terrorist-then-calling-wife-to-say-goodbye.html" rel="nofollow">a good one from The Telegraph</a> where the lead officer told the story in his own words.</p>
<p>They were &#8220;commando&#8221; members of the BRI force, which functions above beat cops but below SWAT forces, if I understand correctly.</p>
<p>Originally, I was super impressed at the courage and skill of these two guys because I thought they had engaged the rifle toting terrorist with their pistols at a range of maybe 60 meters.  Well, the correct range was 25 m.  It is still an incredible story, partly because two of the terrorists detonated their suicide vests in response, and the other terrorists subsequently went into a fully defensive posture.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 23:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That MacDonalds is across the street from the hospital where I was born and around 18 miles from where I currently live.  It is located in a very rough area of Birmingham.  In fact police will tell you that there are no rougher neighborhoods in all of the Birmingham metro area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That MacDonalds is across the street from the hospital where I was born and around 18 miles from where I currently live.  It is located in a very rough area of Birmingham.  In fact police will tell you that there are no rougher neighborhoods in all of the Birmingham metro area.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr:

(1) I am not talking about the source of &lt;i&gt;modern-day&lt;/i&gt; anti-Semitism.  I&#039;m talking about the phenomenon as a whole.

(2) Even &lt;i&gt;modern-day&lt;/i&gt; anti-Semitism does not have a single source alone.  I did not go into the reasons for modern-day anti-Semitism in this post, nor did I &lt;i&gt;list&lt;/i&gt; the reasons at all, actually.  I made a general statement that indicates it&#039;s a deep, pervasive, multi-faceted phenomenon that is deeply rooted in the need to hate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>(1) I am not talking about the source of <i>modern-day</i> anti-Semitism.  I&#8217;m talking about the phenomenon as a whole.</p>
<p>(2) Even <i>modern-day</i> anti-Semitism does not have a single source alone.  I did not go into the reasons for modern-day anti-Semitism in this post, nor did I <i>list</i> the reasons at all, actually.  I made a general statement that indicates it&#8217;s a deep, pervasive, multi-faceted phenomenon that is deeply rooted in the need to hate.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can tell you did not read engels magyar struggle.. 
otherwise you would know the source of modern day antisemetism

just as some jewish scholars have pointed out and i posted before you changed articles again... duh

if you think that way, then the problem is unsolvable and in a few years jews will be gone... why? well, without a national border, and the hate against white males and so on... they be gone real fast given the numbers

but IF you know that this all has to do with the prophet engels and magyar struggle saying that the magyar would come, and he would rmove these people

why remove them
just as several other posts i put up and even another person with a brillant answer...  

because jews will never give up their culture
ie. they are the ultimate racists in terms of trostkis ideal

the whole jewish question, and magyar and other things even less known (but hey, if i cant get you to read the two land mark key books that lay things out for you to understand because yo prefer NOT TO KNOW this virgil cant give you the tour of hell)

the marxists see a future that can be MADE
so they think about it.. and thin more and they come up with what will make it happen and what wont.. 

they get the big idea that you are who you are because of culture
ie. so that is the key... if you can change culture, erase the past, you can make everyone believe that this is the way it is for all time

now... you can aculture the americans... and spread that
and you can aculture the christians
your having problems aculturing the islamics, so smash them against the west and then do it to them after

but... you cant do that to the jews, they would rather die
which is the whole point

the books lay out that if you mold the world and everyone is on the plan, if one group stands apart, a separate nation in reality and in spirituality that is gone everywhere else.. 

it wont work...  

so... due to their intransegence towards remaking themselves in the image of marx and engels desires they are at the front of the list

why? 
cause the others would be easy to erase compared to them

the magyar struggle is key, because without it, you cant assert the core antisemetism of marxism and so on!!! they play games and save the ideology.. 

but here is the creepy part...  regardless of saving it, reforming its structure, etc.. its ends are always the same, power without other power, having no other gods bfore them

and the jews will stand in that way

so in that way they are using hegelian dialectics to smash these things
Alantic is smashing secular jews against religious jews
islam is smashing too (

and again its the push pop formula
&lt;b&gt; why dont you study the manuals for doing this? they have them, they teach them to people like the green berets, agit prop and more... it would lay out in front of you clearly what you cant make up your mind on without it and without the reasoning!

hold men down, uplift women in feminsm... men defeated
now men defeated, turn them into evil born racists... 
of course liberals will think they are not a part of it
and jews will think they are not a part of it

but sadly, no one will look at your credentials comming up

&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;New York Times Editorial Calls for Replacement of Whites&lt;/b&gt;
    America is tearing itself apart as an embittered white conservative minority clings to power, terrified at being swamped by a new multiracial polyglot majority. …

    Abrams’s goal is to put together a coalition of African-American and other minority voters and white liberals. The potential is there; Georgia is less than 53 percent non-Hispanic white.


&lt;b&gt;and if you get rid of all white males you get rid of all jewish males&lt;/b&gt;

and you get rid of the people who want to conserve the culture the nation and all that. the racists a la trotsky

the reason you dont understand this is that you were not raised under a soviet umbrella, you dont get the terms... you use them, but dont know their hstory and meaning...so in the effort to undersand you dont learn their usage and so are always on the out always trying to catch up never ahead of the game

well. you want to look back 10 years and i tried to explain this!!!

right now the white lady pink pus-ssy feminists are going to get a very rude awakening.. 

buit you wont see that coming
you cant even make a valid prediction of what comes next

you never even caought on to the reversal of se peude (yes we can)
it was ceaser chavez saying and it was to END illegal immigration
chavez even went in the desert and beat and maimed mexican illegals

he is a hero
but his facts are unknown

same with che

but its easy to know why
theirs is soviet russian concepts

and any russian event, even as horrible as moving jews into synagoges and setting them on fire alive... isnt even known!!!   burned alive as they screamed then shot as they came running out the windows and doors aflame... i can even give you the horrid persons name

but since we cant talk about russian socialist attrocities in an effort to contain the shoa eveil to germany only and to jews only.. 

well. that lets the root stay
and as long as the root stays, it will come back
and either they get rid of this root, or the root will get rid of them
there will be no compromise

even the jewish scholar i put up said this
but since they are saying what you dont want to hear
 and you want to discover this on your own, like a marxist finding an essential truth
you wont look it up, wont entertain it, etc

this is why they win and are goign to win
[edited for length by n]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you did not read engels magyar struggle..<br />
otherwise you would know the source of modern day antisemetism</p>
<p>just as some jewish scholars have pointed out and i posted before you changed articles again&#8230; duh</p>
<p>if you think that way, then the problem is unsolvable and in a few years jews will be gone&#8230; why? well, without a national border, and the hate against white males and so on&#8230; they be gone real fast given the numbers</p>
<p>but IF you know that this all has to do with the prophet engels and magyar struggle saying that the magyar would come, and he would rmove these people</p>
<p>why remove them<br />
just as several other posts i put up and even another person with a brillant answer&#8230;  </p>
<p>because jews will never give up their culture<br />
ie. they are the ultimate racists in terms of trostkis ideal</p>
<p>the whole jewish question, and magyar and other things even less known (but hey, if i cant get you to read the two land mark key books that lay things out for you to understand because yo prefer NOT TO KNOW this virgil cant give you the tour of hell)</p>
<p>the marxists see a future that can be MADE<br />
so they think about it.. and thin more and they come up with what will make it happen and what wont.. </p>
<p>they get the big idea that you are who you are because of culture<br />
ie. so that is the key&#8230; if you can change culture, erase the past, you can make everyone believe that this is the way it is for all time</p>
<p>now&#8230; you can aculture the americans&#8230; and spread that<br />
and you can aculture the christians<br />
your having problems aculturing the islamics, so smash them against the west and then do it to them after</p>
<p>but&#8230; you cant do that to the jews, they would rather die<br />
which is the whole point</p>
<p>the books lay out that if you mold the world and everyone is on the plan, if one group stands apart, a separate nation in reality and in spirituality that is gone everywhere else.. </p>
<p>it wont work&#8230;  </p>
<p>so&#8230; due to their intransegence towards remaking themselves in the image of marx and engels desires they are at the front of the list</p>
<p>why?<br />
cause the others would be easy to erase compared to them</p>
<p>the magyar struggle is key, because without it, you cant assert the core antisemetism of marxism and so on!!! they play games and save the ideology.. </p>
<p>but here is the creepy part&#8230;  regardless of saving it, reforming its structure, etc.. its ends are always the same, power without other power, having no other gods bfore them</p>
<p>and the jews will stand in that way</p>
<p>so in that way they are using hegelian dialectics to smash these things<br />
Alantic is smashing secular jews against religious jews<br />
islam is smashing too (</p>
<p>and again its the push pop formula<br />
<b> why dont you study the manuals for doing this? they have them, they teach them to people like the green berets, agit prop and more&#8230; it would lay out in front of you clearly what you cant make up your mind on without it and without the reasoning!</p>
<p>hold men down, uplift women in feminsm&#8230; men defeated<br />
now men defeated, turn them into evil born racists&#8230;<br />
of course liberals will think they are not a part of it<br />
and jews will think they are not a part of it</p>
<p>but sadly, no one will look at your credentials comming up</p>
<p></b><b>New York Times Editorial Calls for Replacement of Whites</b><br />
    America is tearing itself apart as an embittered white conservative minority clings to power, terrified at being swamped by a new multiracial polyglot majority. …</p>
<p>    Abrams’s goal is to put together a coalition of African-American and other minority voters and white liberals. The potential is there; Georgia is less than 53 percent non-Hispanic white.</p>
<p><b>and if you get rid of all white males you get rid of all jewish males</b></p>
<p>and you get rid of the people who want to conserve the culture the nation and all that. the racists a la trotsky</p>
<p>the reason you dont understand this is that you were not raised under a soviet umbrella, you dont get the terms&#8230; you use them, but dont know their hstory and meaning&#8230;so in the effort to undersand you dont learn their usage and so are always on the out always trying to catch up never ahead of the game</p>
<p>well. you want to look back 10 years and i tried to explain this!!!</p>
<p>right now the white lady pink pus-ssy feminists are going to get a very rude awakening.. </p>
<p>buit you wont see that coming<br />
you cant even make a valid prediction of what comes next</p>
<p>you never even caought on to the reversal of se peude (yes we can)<br />
it was ceaser chavez saying and it was to END illegal immigration<br />
chavez even went in the desert and beat and maimed mexican illegals</p>
<p>he is a hero<br />
but his facts are unknown</p>
<p>same with che</p>
<p>but its easy to know why<br />
theirs is soviet russian concepts</p>
<p>and any russian event, even as horrible as moving jews into synagoges and setting them on fire alive&#8230; isnt even known!!!   burned alive as they screamed then shot as they came running out the windows and doors aflame&#8230; i can even give you the horrid persons name</p>
<p>but since we cant talk about russian socialist attrocities in an effort to contain the shoa eveil to germany only and to jews only.. </p>
<p>well. that lets the root stay<br />
and as long as the root stays, it will come back<br />
and either they get rid of this root, or the root will get rid of them<br />
there will be no compromise</p>
<p>even the jewish scholar i put up said this<br />
but since they are saying what you dont want to hear<br />
 and you want to discover this on your own, like a marxist finding an essential truth<br />
you wont look it up, wont entertain it, etc</p>
<p>this is why they win and are goign to win<br />
[edited for length by n]</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The father and two sons were dining inside when closing time approached and the doors were locked.  When they finished, the door was unlocked to let them out, and the gunman took that opportunity to enter.

They can&#039;t question the shooter as to his motive, though there is a bit of a sad discussion of a compassionate justice system gone wrong &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2018/10/masked-gunman-killed-by-armed-father-in-mcdonalds-shooting-identified-as-birmingham-24-year-old.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;  Also stated is that the defender father is requesting the lowest of profiles, so we won&#039;t learn about him either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The father and two sons were dining inside when closing time approached and the doors were locked.  When they finished, the door was unlocked to let them out, and the gunman took that opportunity to enter.</p>
<p>They can&#8217;t question the shooter as to his motive, though there is a bit of a sad discussion of a compassionate justice system gone wrong <a href="https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2018/10/masked-gunman-killed-by-armed-father-in-mcdonalds-shooting-identified-as-birmingham-24-year-old.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a>  Also stated is that the defender father is requesting the lowest of profiles, so we won&#8217;t learn about him either.</p>
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		By: steve walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now, this is the correct usage of the words &quot;courage&quot; and &quot;hero&quot;.]]></description>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Risk mitigation, rights and responsibilities, and first-responders are at the scene.]]></description>
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