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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409460</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo - a couple of work-arounds I use, if I think about it.

Long posts &#038; time outs: compose in Word and copy/paste.
Links: strip the https and www and post in &quot;clear&quot; with instructions to insert the missing parts, but you don&#039;t really need them if you search for all the key words in the link.
Dropping old comments on Disqus I did not know about, but I don&#039;t leave many outside of Neo&#039;s pixel salon. A problem I have noted is that I can&#039;t &quot;link&quot; directly to a comment on PowerLine; I just get the entire blog again.
They do have some interesting commenters, and I pick up lots of graphics there.

I left HotAir when they went to Facebook comments, and most of what they have now is spam (not filtered: go there if you want to learn how to Make Money at Home Fast), and only about 4-10 comments per post instead of the long discussions with reality-based expertise that we get here (although Hoyt is the champion for length, every daily post tops 200 easy with water-cooler chit-chat and sometimes useful info).

NOTE to Neo: I don&#039;t always get the Edit button on a comment, usually on the ones where I notice a typo or infelicitous phrasing just after pressing &quot;post&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo &#8211; a couple of work-arounds I use, if I think about it.</p>
<p>Long posts &amp; time outs: compose in Word and copy/paste.<br />
Links: strip the https and www and post in &#8220;clear&#8221; with instructions to insert the missing parts, but you don&#8217;t really need them if you search for all the key words in the link.<br />
Dropping old comments on Disqus I did not know about, but I don&#8217;t leave many outside of Neo&#8217;s pixel salon. A problem I have noted is that I can&#8217;t &#8220;link&#8221; directly to a comment on PowerLine; I just get the entire blog again.<br />
They do have some interesting commenters, and I pick up lots of graphics there.</p>
<p>I left HotAir when they went to Facebook comments, and most of what they have now is spam (not filtered: go there if you want to learn how to Make Money at Home Fast), and only about 4-10 comments per post instead of the long discussions with reality-based expertise that we get here (although Hoyt is the champion for length, every daily post tops 200 easy with water-cooler chit-chat and sometimes useful info).</p>
<p>NOTE to Neo: I don&#8217;t always get the Edit button on a comment, usually on the ones where I notice a typo or infelicitous phrasing just after pressing &#8220;post&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie near Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 23:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disqus is a pimple on the backside of the Internet.  &quot;There!  I said it!&quot;

I have no idea why anybody who has at least a subset of readers who leave substantive comments would ever sign up with Dreadful Disqus -- which kills all comments more than three months (I think it is) old.

There is a wealth of useful information in the archived comments of the better websites -- such as this one.

The fact that people do leave worthwhile comments that won&#039;t be lost should be recognized by website owners as constituting a great advertisement for their sites.

I will never, ever waste my time leaving comments through Disqus.

.  .  .

I wonder whether there comes a time when a website&#039;s owner becomes first a news-aggregator and a magazine publisher and ends up being a backer and/or administrator more than a writer and producer of material.  One such is FPM, where David Horowitz (of whom I&#039;m a fan) now disclaims direct knowledge of the pieces FPM publishes, unless some sort of stir is created.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disqus is a pimple on the backside of the Internet.  &#8220;There!  I said it!&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no idea why anybody who has at least a subset of readers who leave substantive comments would ever sign up with Dreadful Disqus &#8212; which kills all comments more than three months (I think it is) old.</p>
<p>There is a wealth of useful information in the archived comments of the better websites &#8212; such as this one.</p>
<p>The fact that people do leave worthwhile comments that won&#8217;t be lost should be recognized by website owners as constituting a great advertisement for their sites.</p>
<p>I will never, ever waste my time leaving comments through Disqus.</p>
<p>.  .  .</p>
<p>I wonder whether there comes a time when a website&#8217;s owner becomes first a news-aggregator and a magazine publisher and ends up being a backer and/or administrator more than a writer and producer of material.  One such is FPM, where David Horowitz (of whom I&#8217;m a fan) now disclaims direct knowledge of the pieces FPM publishes, unless some sort of stir is created.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate
&lt;i&gt;Does Disqus also handle Blogspot? I’ve been getting multiple weird “prove you’re not a robot” images which I have to click through to comment both at PowerLine and another site on Blogspot. &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know about Blogspot per se, but Disqus does handle Powerline. I would rather have to click through &quot;prove you&#039;re not a robot&quot; than have my comment spammed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate<br />
<i>Does Disqus also handle Blogspot? I’ve been getting multiple weird “prove you’re not a robot” images which I have to click through to comment both at PowerLine and another site on Blogspot. </i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about Blogspot per se, but Disqus does handle Powerline. I would rather have to click through &#8220;prove you&#8217;re not a robot&#8221; than have my comment spammed.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I usually post short comments.  I don&#039;t know if that helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually post short comments.  I don&#8217;t know if that helps.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409430</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As to Instapundit, the volume there is so huge that policing spam would probably be impossible, and there it is.&lt;/i&gt;

Probably so. I would like to know precisely what it is from my admittedly pedantic comments that triggers the spam filter, so I could avoid the spam filter. Disqus is set up for one-liner, pithy comments. It doesn&#039;t handle longer,more pedantic comments very well. 

When on occasion I have been able to communicate with writers of Disqus filtered articles regarding what it is in my comment that triggered the spam filter, the answer is invariably like this:&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;I see nothing in your comment that would relegate it to spam. I have no idea why Disqus spammed you.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;Sometimes the writer of the article also expresses frustration with Disqus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As to Instapundit, the volume there is so huge that policing spam would probably be impossible, and there it is.</i></p>
<p>Probably so. I would like to know precisely what it is from my admittedly pedantic comments that triggers the spam filter, so I could avoid the spam filter. Disqus is set up for one-liner, pithy comments. It doesn&#8217;t handle longer,more pedantic comments very well. </p>
<p>When on occasion I have been able to communicate with writers of Disqus filtered articles regarding what it is in my comment that triggered the spam filter, the answer is invariably like this:</p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;I see nothing in your comment that would relegate it to spam. I have no idea why Disqus spammed you.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes the writer of the article also expresses frustration with Disqus.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409423</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 19:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does Disqus also handle Blogspot?  I&#039;ve been getting multiple weird &quot;prove you&#039;re not a robot&quot; images which I have to click through to comment both at PowerLine and another site on Blogspot.  And I seldom post links.  Maybe there&#039;s an industry-wide anti-spam effort going on.

As to Instapundit, the volume there is so huge that policing spam would probably be impossible, and there it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Disqus also handle Blogspot?  I&#8217;ve been getting multiple weird &#8220;prove you&#8217;re not a robot&#8221; images which I have to click through to comment both at PowerLine and another site on Blogspot.  And I seldom post links.  Maybe there&#8217;s an industry-wide anti-spam effort going on.</p>
<p>As to Instapundit, the volume there is so huge that policing spam would probably be impossible, and there it is.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/26/overactive-spam-filter/#comment-2409416</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo has been very fast  in responding to commenters&#039; complaints about  bad spam classification. Try communicating about bad spam with Disqus clients. For example consider Disqus client Instapundit- impossible, as far as I can tell, to communicate with them regarding bad spam classification. Instapundit informs you that &quot;we are working on getting this corrected,&quot; but Instapundit never does correct false spam detection, as far as I can tell.

At least most Disqus clients do pass through subsequent comments. However, The Atlantic, formerly a Disqus client, once you had been flagged for spam, stopped all subsequent comments. As I got flagged for too many links- as far as I can tell-  for a comment about Norwegian oil policy, that was an absurd policy. I wasn&#039;t surprised that The Atlantic subsequently stopped all comments. 

As Disqus flags you for such things as  too many ( &#062;2?) edits, too many links (&#062; 1?) or too long writing a comment, it is very easy for a pedantic comment to get false spam reading.

Neo&#039;s system isn&#039;t perfect, but it&#039;s a lot better than Disqus, which filters a substantial proportion of blogosphere comments. In addition, Neo is much more responsive than most Disqus clients.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo has been very fast  in responding to commenters&#8217; complaints about  bad spam classification. Try communicating about bad spam with Disqus clients. For example consider Disqus client Instapundit- impossible, as far as I can tell, to communicate with them regarding bad spam classification. Instapundit informs you that &#8220;we are working on getting this corrected,&#8221; but Instapundit never does correct false spam detection, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>At least most Disqus clients do pass through subsequent comments. However, The Atlantic, formerly a Disqus client, once you had been flagged for spam, stopped all subsequent comments. As I got flagged for too many links- as far as I can tell-  for a comment about Norwegian oil policy, that was an absurd policy. I wasn&#8217;t surprised that The Atlantic subsequently stopped all comments. </p>
<p>As Disqus flags you for such things as  too many ( &gt;2?) edits, too many links (&gt; 1?) or too long writing a comment, it is very easy for a pedantic comment to get false spam reading.</p>
<p>Neo&#8217;s system isn&#8217;t perfect, but it&#8217;s a lot better than Disqus, which filters a substantial proportion of blogosphere comments. In addition, Neo is much more responsive than most Disqus clients.</p>
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