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		By: Steve57		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nobody owes anyone any respect. Civility, yes. But nobody owes me respect, I don&#039;t owe you any respect. If I want your respect I&#039;ll earn it, and I expect the same from you. That said I can&#039;t tell you how much respect I have for most of the women I served with. Not all. The woman who transferred out of that command telling the world she was going to toss a grenade back through the door on her way out, and ruined a Navy Captain who started out as a Corpsman with the Marines in Vietnam, gets no respect from me. I can think of a few others.

For instance, a Navy lawyer and a female civilian supervisor from the Naval Supply Center San Diego gave us a lecture on just how seriously the Navy takes sexual harassment and assault charges. Very, very, seriously. So they didn&#039;t name names, but they told us of a tale of woe about a guy who even by their telling was a decent guy.

He, too, was a mid grade civilian supervisor. A woman who worked for him dressed very provocatively. The other employees in his office found it a distraction, irksome, even infuriating. Those were the other women. 

I was reminded of something that happened when I was still in college. A local bar was having a &quot;best legs&quot; contest. It involved the ladies getting on stage and dancing. I was talking to a girl who was going to compete and she confided she was really nervous. I&#039;m a team player. I bought her a couple of shots of tequila.

When she got up on stage I realize why was nervous. Everyone could see why she was nervous. As her skirt rode up we all realized she wasn&#039;t wearing any underwear. I guess she really wanted to win. But the reaction from the other girls was priceless. &quot;Legs? LEGS? Those aren&#039;t legs. I&#039;m willing to dance in a &#039;best legs&#039; contest but I&#039;m not going to do that.&quot;

So, anyhoo, the other ladies who wanted to be evaluated by something other than the physical features they were willing to expose demanded that their supervisor tell her to dress more professionally. So he did. 

She accused him of sexual harassment for even bringing up the subject of her clothing or more accurately the lack of it. The Navy took it very seriously. The transferred him out of that section, basically demoted him, and put a note in his personnel file that he was never, ever to be alone with that woman.

A couple of months go by. The man out of the goodness of his heart relieves a Sailor working the requisition desk so he can go get some lunch. So, a sailor from a ship comes in with a requisition that the guy doesn&#039;t really know how to fulfill. So the man goes looking to see if there&#039;s someone around who does know. Again, this is lunch time and just about every office is empty. Except one. He walks into it around the cubicle partitions and there at the other end of the room is the woman. He doesn&#039;t say a word, he just walks out.

Somehow she finds out that he walked into the office and demands that he be fired. So the Navy Supply Center fires him.

As the story comes out  bit by bit there areb gasps 0f shock coming from my shipmates in the audience and occasional explanations of disbelief. &quot;Oh my God, that poor man!&quot; And it&#039;s all coming from the women in the audience.

He didn&#039;t do anything wrong. The ladies are sitting there with their mouths agape at how he got railroaded, and more to the point how proud these two women lecturing us are of railroading him. The facts weren&#039;t in dispute. They weren&#039;t presenting a shred of evidence that this guy had said anything ever rude to that woman let alone put a hand on her.

After they got done with the lecture it was time for the Q &#038; A portion of the circus. So I raise my had and asked why the Navy didn&#039;t do more to fight false accusations of sexual harassment and assault. The bar is pretty low for an accusation. The Navy used to talk about green, yellow, and red lights. I was establish that there is no such thing as a green light. If you say &quot;good morning&quot; to the wrong woman and she decides to take offense you&#039;ve entered the yellow light zone. 

Things aren&#039;t going how the supervisor and their command JAG  thought they would. So she asks me if I thought sexual harassment and assault were serious issues that I needed to protect my Sailors from.

I told her, &quot;Lieutenant, your a danger I need to protect my Sailors from.&quot;

The first, last, and only standing ovation I ever got in my Naval career ensued. Followed by the skipper shutting the entire event down. I had committed the crime of saying what every man and woman in the auditorium had been thinking. What these two women had described was a monstrous injustice. What the Democrats did to Brett Kavanaugh was a monstrous injustice.

And thank God the vast majority of women I have ever known don&#039;t look favorably on injustice.

P.S. Back during the first decade of the 21st century  when I was still in and I believe Hillary was a Senator touring the sand box, every single man and woman I knew in the armed forces referred to whatever aircraft she was riding in as &quot;Broomstick One.&quot;

Have I mentioned she will never be President? And that I&#039;m pretty giddy about that fact?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody owes anyone any respect. Civility, yes. But nobody owes me respect, I don&#8217;t owe you any respect. If I want your respect I&#8217;ll earn it, and I expect the same from you. That said I can&#8217;t tell you how much respect I have for most of the women I served with. Not all. The woman who transferred out of that command telling the world she was going to toss a grenade back through the door on her way out, and ruined a Navy Captain who started out as a Corpsman with the Marines in Vietnam, gets no respect from me. I can think of a few others.</p>
<p>For instance, a Navy lawyer and a female civilian supervisor from the Naval Supply Center San Diego gave us a lecture on just how seriously the Navy takes sexual harassment and assault charges. Very, very, seriously. So they didn&#8217;t name names, but they told us of a tale of woe about a guy who even by their telling was a decent guy.</p>
<p>He, too, was a mid grade civilian supervisor. A woman who worked for him dressed very provocatively. The other employees in his office found it a distraction, irksome, even infuriating. Those were the other women. </p>
<p>I was reminded of something that happened when I was still in college. A local bar was having a &#8220;best legs&#8221; contest. It involved the ladies getting on stage and dancing. I was talking to a girl who was going to compete and she confided she was really nervous. I&#8217;m a team player. I bought her a couple of shots of tequila.</p>
<p>When she got up on stage I realize why was nervous. Everyone could see why she was nervous. As her skirt rode up we all realized she wasn&#8217;t wearing any underwear. I guess she really wanted to win. But the reaction from the other girls was priceless. &#8220;Legs? LEGS? Those aren&#8217;t legs. I&#8217;m willing to dance in a &#8216;best legs&#8217; contest but I&#8217;m not going to do that.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, anyhoo, the other ladies who wanted to be evaluated by something other than the physical features they were willing to expose demanded that their supervisor tell her to dress more professionally. So he did. </p>
<p>She accused him of sexual harassment for even bringing up the subject of her clothing or more accurately the lack of it. The Navy took it very seriously. The transferred him out of that section, basically demoted him, and put a note in his personnel file that he was never, ever to be alone with that woman.</p>
<p>A couple of months go by. The man out of the goodness of his heart relieves a Sailor working the requisition desk so he can go get some lunch. So, a sailor from a ship comes in with a requisition that the guy doesn&#8217;t really know how to fulfill. So the man goes looking to see if there&#8217;s someone around who does know. Again, this is lunch time and just about every office is empty. Except one. He walks into it around the cubicle partitions and there at the other end of the room is the woman. He doesn&#8217;t say a word, he just walks out.</p>
<p>Somehow she finds out that he walked into the office and demands that he be fired. So the Navy Supply Center fires him.</p>
<p>As the story comes out  bit by bit there areb gasps 0f shock coming from my shipmates in the audience and occasional explanations of disbelief. &#8220;Oh my God, that poor man!&#8221; And it&#8217;s all coming from the women in the audience.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t do anything wrong. The ladies are sitting there with their mouths agape at how he got railroaded, and more to the point how proud these two women lecturing us are of railroading him. The facts weren&#8217;t in dispute. They weren&#8217;t presenting a shred of evidence that this guy had said anything ever rude to that woman let alone put a hand on her.</p>
<p>After they got done with the lecture it was time for the Q &amp; A portion of the circus. So I raise my had and asked why the Navy didn&#8217;t do more to fight false accusations of sexual harassment and assault. The bar is pretty low for an accusation. The Navy used to talk about green, yellow, and red lights. I was establish that there is no such thing as a green light. If you say &#8220;good morning&#8221; to the wrong woman and she decides to take offense you&#8217;ve entered the yellow light zone. </p>
<p>Things aren&#8217;t going how the supervisor and their command JAG  thought they would. So she asks me if I thought sexual harassment and assault were serious issues that I needed to protect my Sailors from.</p>
<p>I told her, &#8220;Lieutenant, your a danger I need to protect my Sailors from.&#8221;</p>
<p>The first, last, and only standing ovation I ever got in my Naval career ensued. Followed by the skipper shutting the entire event down. I had committed the crime of saying what every man and woman in the auditorium had been thinking. What these two women had described was a monstrous injustice. What the Democrats did to Brett Kavanaugh was a monstrous injustice.</p>
<p>And thank God the vast majority of women I have ever known don&#8217;t look favorably on injustice.</p>
<p>P.S. Back during the first decade of the 21st century  when I was still in and I believe Hillary was a Senator touring the sand box, every single man and woman I knew in the armed forces referred to whatever aircraft she was riding in as &#8220;Broomstick One.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have I mentioned she will never be President? And that I&#8217;m pretty giddy about that fact?</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I too was falsely accused of rape while I was in the Navy. It was shortly after Tailhook back in the ugly days. Clearly after watching the Kavanaugh hearings I can&#039;t say things have gotten any better.

The Irony, the blessing,  was the woman we supposedly gang raped wouldn&#039;t accuse me and my friends of rape. These two men had recieved the message loud and clear that if you wanted to get promoted BELIEVE ALL THE WOMEN! And if the women aren&#039;t cooperating threaten to court martial them for conduct unbecoming because they got drunk at a command function. My friends and I noticed she had wandered off and we formed search parties and made sure she got home. I poured her a glass of water and put it on her nightstand with a couple of aspirins (It was a Navy apartment building on base, so we&#039;re basically talking about a studio apartment). I was the last one out the door,. As I was shutting it she grabbed it asked if she had embarrassed herself. I told her not to worry about it.

Was I ever wrong. There was a guy from a different command who who was watching the whole thing and really, really wanted to bed her and thought this was his big chance. Apparently she didn&#039;t lock her door. So, one of the department heads I mentioned earlier walked in while he was making his move and demanded to know what was going on. The Blue Falcon (look it up) decided his only defense was to defecate all over everyone he could think of and say he had just broken up an orgy that was about to break out.

She refused to break. She told me later she knew that we would never do what these two department heads wanted her to say we did. The executive officer of the command, also a woman, told the two dirtbags to drop it. There was nothimg there.

Then I read Yanni from a couple of days ago that the elephant in the room that NOBODY is talking about that rape allegations are almost impossible to prove if we require evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. So therefore no woman is safe. Huh?!! False rape or sexual assault/harassment claims are common. One woman told me to my face that she was going to &quot;throw a grenade through the door&quot; as she transferred out of the command. She thought she should have gotten a Navy comm as an end of tour award, but she had just received a Navy Achievement Medal a couple of months earlier and there was no way anyone could justify an additional award. No matter, she filed a sexual harassment complaint with the Navy IG.

And Yanni thinks no woman is safe if we require evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. If we don&#039;t maintain that standard, no one is safe including women. Hillary Clinton lost the white woman vote for a reason. Hillary was running around declaring the men in their lives deplorables and hateful misogynists. And the women in my neck of the woods got angry. Because she wasn&#039;t just saying nasty things about their husbands, sons, father, uncles, grand dads, and so on. She was saying nasty things about them. And it has only gotten worse. Witness the Kavanaugh hearings.

I know women (and men too) who cried looking at what the Dems were willing to do to that man. They don&#039;t want that to happen to any man in their life.

Shove it, Yanni. Go sell crazy somewhere else because we&#039;re all stocked up here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too was falsely accused of rape while I was in the Navy. It was shortly after Tailhook back in the ugly days. Clearly after watching the Kavanaugh hearings I can&#8217;t say things have gotten any better.</p>
<p>The Irony, the blessing,  was the woman we supposedly gang raped wouldn&#8217;t accuse me and my friends of rape. These two men had recieved the message loud and clear that if you wanted to get promoted BELIEVE ALL THE WOMEN! And if the women aren&#8217;t cooperating threaten to court martial them for conduct unbecoming because they got drunk at a command function. My friends and I noticed she had wandered off and we formed search parties and made sure she got home. I poured her a glass of water and put it on her nightstand with a couple of aspirins (It was a Navy apartment building on base, so we&#8217;re basically talking about a studio apartment). I was the last one out the door,. As I was shutting it she grabbed it asked if she had embarrassed herself. I told her not to worry about it.</p>
<p>Was I ever wrong. There was a guy from a different command who who was watching the whole thing and really, really wanted to bed her and thought this was his big chance. Apparently she didn&#8217;t lock her door. So, one of the department heads I mentioned earlier walked in while he was making his move and demanded to know what was going on. The Blue Falcon (look it up) decided his only defense was to defecate all over everyone he could think of and say he had just broken up an orgy that was about to break out.</p>
<p>She refused to break. She told me later she knew that we would never do what these two department heads wanted her to say we did. The executive officer of the command, also a woman, told the two dirtbags to drop it. There was nothimg there.</p>
<p>Then I read Yanni from a couple of days ago that the elephant in the room that NOBODY is talking about that rape allegations are almost impossible to prove if we require evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. So therefore no woman is safe. Huh?!! False rape or sexual assault/harassment claims are common. One woman told me to my face that she was going to &#8220;throw a grenade through the door&#8221; as she transferred out of the command. She thought she should have gotten a Navy comm as an end of tour award, but she had just received a Navy Achievement Medal a couple of months earlier and there was no way anyone could justify an additional award. No matter, she filed a sexual harassment complaint with the Navy IG.</p>
<p>And Yanni thinks no woman is safe if we require evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. If we don&#8217;t maintain that standard, no one is safe including women. Hillary Clinton lost the white woman vote for a reason. Hillary was running around declaring the men in their lives deplorables and hateful misogynists. And the women in my neck of the woods got angry. Because she wasn&#8217;t just saying nasty things about their husbands, sons, father, uncles, grand dads, and so on. She was saying nasty things about them. And it has only gotten worse. Witness the Kavanaugh hearings.</p>
<p>I know women (and men too) who cried looking at what the Dems were willing to do to that man. They don&#8217;t want that to happen to any man in their life.</p>
<p>Shove it, Yanni. Go sell crazy somewhere else because we&#8217;re all stocked up here.</p>
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		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/05/dershowitz-on-false-rape-accusations/#comment-2407252</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2018 04:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love this from the Politico story underlying the DC post (how did I miss this? well at the beginning (barely 3 weeks ago now) it didn&#039;t look like anything of a muchness -- silly me):

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-democratic-operative-advice-833013

&quot;Democratic operatives in Washington, D.C. have been cautious about linking Ford and her claims to partisan activists working on her behalf over concerns about further politicizing an already complicated case. &lt;b&gt;“[Ford] didn&#039;t come at this through anyone political&lt;/b&gt; and needs to keep her distance from it,&quot; said one Democratic operative.

&lt;em&gt;[Just through the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee - nobody political there!]&lt;/em&gt;

...

Even though Democrats have purposefully proceeded cautiously with Ford, the news that she is working with an experienced political operative was interpreted by Republicans close to the process as a sign that Democrats are trying to leverage the accusation to derail the Kavanaugh confirmation process.

“This feels more like a Democratic super PAC than a legal effort to get at the truth,” said a senior Republican official of Seidman’s role working with Ford.

&lt;b&gt;“If you’re concerned about an appearance of partisanship, hiring a Democratic operative with a history of smearing conservative judges doesn&#039;t exactly mitigate that,” &lt;/b&gt;said Cassie Smedile, press secretary for the Republican National Committee.

Seidman says she does not currently do political work.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this from the Politico story underlying the DC post (how did I miss this? well at the beginning (barely 3 weeks ago now) it didn&#8217;t look like anything of a muchness &#8212; silly me):</p>
<p><a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-democratic-operative-advice-833013" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-democratic-operative-advice-833013</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Democratic operatives in Washington, D.C. have been cautious about linking Ford and her claims to partisan activists working on her behalf over concerns about further politicizing an already complicated case. <b>“[Ford] didn&#8217;t come at this through anyone political</b> and needs to keep her distance from it,&#8221; said one Democratic operative.</p>
<p><em>[Just through the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee &#8211; nobody political there!]</em></p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Even though Democrats have purposefully proceeded cautiously with Ford, the news that she is working with an experienced political operative was interpreted by Republicans close to the process as a sign that Democrats are trying to leverage the accusation to derail the Kavanaugh confirmation process.</p>
<p>“This feels more like a Democratic super PAC than a legal effort to get at the truth,” said a senior Republican official of Seidman’s role working with Ford.</p>
<p><b>“If you’re concerned about an appearance of partisanship, hiring a Democratic operative with a history of smearing conservative judges doesn&#8217;t exactly mitigate that,” </b>said Cassie Smedile, press secretary for the Republican National Committee.</p>
<p>Seidman says she does not currently do political work.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2018 04:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carl, I hope you didn&#039;t go to any parties with her....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, I hope you didn&#8217;t go to any parties with her&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW:

Someone from my law school class called me this morning to let me know that  Ricki Seidman, Esq. (who was a year ahead of us in law school) has been advising Dr. Ford. I didn&#039;t know Ms. Seidman in law school but when I Googled her name I did recognize her from her photos.  It looks like she&#039;s been working on these kinds of situations -- for the Left -- ever since the  Bork affair in 1987. She worked against the Clarence Thomas nomination as well.

 Her CV per Wikipedia is here (it&#039;s worth looking at): 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricki_Seidman#cite_note-KeyPeople-3

From the Daily Caller:



 &quot;According to the Weekly Standard:

     As legal director for Norman Lear’s People for the American Way, she was responsible for the infamous attack-ad on the judicial record of Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork. She next moved to Senator Edward Kennedy’s office shortly after Clarence Thomas was nominated to the Supreme Court, and she is credited with pressuring the reluctant Anita Hill to come out with her harassment story. When the Judiciary Committee failed to listen, according to David Brock’s The Real Anita Hill, Seidman helped leak the story to the press.

Seidman was so instrumental in the promotion of the Anita Hill story that HBO cast her in its dramatic series.&quot;

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-working-with-former-clinton/

    She&#039;s had a very impressive career and it sure looks like she must be good at what she does.

This is just one more bit of evidence that this whole thing is being professionally managed....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW:</p>
<p>Someone from my law school class called me this morning to let me know that  Ricki Seidman, Esq. (who was a year ahead of us in law school) has been advising Dr. Ford. I didn&#8217;t know Ms. Seidman in law school but when I Googled her name I did recognize her from her photos.  It looks like she&#8217;s been working on these kinds of situations &#8212; for the Left &#8212; ever since the  Bork affair in 1987. She worked against the Clarence Thomas nomination as well.</p>
<p> Her CV per Wikipedia is here (it&#8217;s worth looking at): </p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricki_Seidman#cite_note-KeyPeople-3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricki_Seidman#cite_note-KeyPeople-3</a></p>
<p>From the Daily Caller:</p>
<p> &#8220;According to the Weekly Standard:</p>
<p>     As legal director for Norman Lear’s People for the American Way, she was responsible for the infamous attack-ad on the judicial record of Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork. She next moved to Senator Edward Kennedy’s office shortly after Clarence Thomas was nominated to the Supreme Court, and she is credited with pressuring the reluctant Anita Hill to come out with her harassment story. When the Judiciary Committee failed to listen, according to David Brock’s The Real Anita Hill, Seidman helped leak the story to the press.</p>
<p>Seidman was so instrumental in the promotion of the Anita Hill story that HBO cast her in its dramatic series.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-working-with-former-clinton/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-working-with-former-clinton/</a></p>
<p>    She&#8217;s had a very impressive career and it sure looks like she must be good at what she does.</p>
<p>This is just one more bit of evidence that this whole thing is being professionally managed&#8230;.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another Treehouse denizen makes this observation:

TheLastDemocrat says:
October 5, 2018 at 1:23 pm
My wife pointed out that Dr. Ford had said this about Keyser when Ford was on the hot seat.

I had just recently been telling my wife that &lt;b&gt;I suspected that the Progs wanted more FBI investigation because they had planted a sleeper bomb out there somewhere, and were waiting for the FBI to seemingly stumble across it.&lt;/b&gt;

It would have to be someone very likely to be interviewed or re-interviewed, if this additional FBI investigation was not too narrowed. When my wife mentioned this, I said, “that’s the kind of thing. Maybe they have had time to get Keyser to agree to something, and to say she was very afraid to be fully truthful, initially.”

So, now, I suspect that Ford’s beach bums had tried to work over Keyser to give a specific story to FBI in this recent investigation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Treehouse denizen makes this observation:</p>
<p>TheLastDemocrat says:<br />
October 5, 2018 at 1:23 pm<br />
My wife pointed out that Dr. Ford had said this about Keyser when Ford was on the hot seat.</p>
<p>I had just recently been telling my wife that <b>I suspected that the Progs wanted more FBI investigation because they had planted a sleeper bomb out there somewhere, and were waiting for the FBI to seemingly stumble across it.</b></p>
<p>It would have to be someone very likely to be interviewed or re-interviewed, if this additional FBI investigation was not too narrowed. When my wife mentioned this, I said, “that’s the kind of thing. Maybe they have had time to get Keyser to agree to something, and to say she was very afraid to be fully truthful, initially.”</p>
<p>So, now, I suspect that Ford’s beach bums had tried to work over Keyser to give a specific story to FBI in this recent investigation.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Next up: Senator Daines is inappropriately accepting gifts and needs to be charged on the &quot;Emoluments Clause&quot; or something.

https://twitter.com/KatieSchoettler/status/1048249865317376001/photo/1

To all reporters asking about @SteveDaines’ arrangements this weekend IF NEEDED back in DC for a vote:

(graphic doesn&#039;t copy, but he has a friend that offered a private plane to help)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next up: Senator Daines is inappropriately accepting gifts and needs to be charged on the &#8220;Emoluments Clause&#8221; or something.</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/KatieSchoettler/status/1048249865317376001/photo/1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/KatieSchoettler/status/1048249865317376001/photo/1</a></p>
<p>To all reporters asking about @SteveDaines’ arrangements this weekend IF NEEDED back in DC for a vote:</p>
<p>(graphic doesn&#8217;t copy, but he has a friend that offered a private plane to help)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/10/05/dershowitz-on-false-rape-accusations/#comment-2407174</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is Grassley&#039;s Conan moment.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-demands-correspondence-between-ford-legal-team-and-dem-senators

&quot;Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley &lt;b&gt;demanded lawyers for Christine Blasey Ford turn over records of communications between their legal team and the offices of Democratic Sens.&lt;/b&gt; Dianne Feinstein and Mazie Hirono “in light of recently uncovered information.”

Grassley, R-Iowa, penned a letter to Ford’s legal team late Thursday, renewing requests for evidence. Grassley said the evidence in question had been referenced numerous times to support Ford’s allegations that Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her at a high school party 36 years ago.

“I urge you once again, now for the third time in writing, to turn over the therapy notes, polygraph materials, and communications with The Washington Post that Dr. Ford has relied upon as evidence,” Grassley wrote, following up on his initial letter sent on Oct. 2. “In addition to the evidence I requested in my October 2 letter, in light of recently uncovered information, please turn over records and descriptions of direct or indirect communications between Dr. Ford or her representatives and any of the following…”

Grassley requested communications between Ford’s legal team and senators and staffs—“particularly the offices of Senators Feinstein and Hirono,” and &#060;b?communications with the “alleged witnesses” identified by Ford—Mark Judge, Leland Keyser and Patrick “P.J.” Smith.

Grassley also called for records of communications between Ford’s legal team and the other women leveling allegations against Kavanaugh—“Deborah Ramirez, Julie Swetnick, or their representatives.”

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&lt;b&gt;It is unclear at this point what the “recently uncovered information” is.&lt;/b&gt;
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“The U.S. Senate doesn’t control the FBI. If you have an objection to how the FBI conducts its investigation, take it up with Director Wray.&lt;b&gt; But don’t raise that objection as a reason not to respond to this Committee’s demand for relevant evidence,”&lt;/b&gt; Grassley wrote. “Even if the FBI never interviews Dr. Ford, or interviews her ten times, this Committee has a constitutional obligation to investigate Dr. Ford’s allegations, and that’s what we’ve been doing since we became aware of her allegations.”

Grassley said that Ford’s team’s refusal to provide evidence prevented the Senate from considering Ford’s allegations.
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“I don’t know what other interference we should draw from your refusal &lt;b&gt;but that the withheld evidence does not support Dr. Ford’s allegations &lt;/b&gt;in quite the way you have claimed,” Grassley wrote.&quot;

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A Treehouse commenter recommends subpoenaing the therapist&#039;s notes directly from her, as Ford&#039;s team might have tampered with their copies.

57 Alpha says:
October 5, 2018 at 1:23 pm
I don’t get why Grassley is asking Ford / her lawyers for the therapy notes. In fact, they should NOT obtain the notes from Ford because she or others may well have modified the notes. All she needs is the therapist’s name and Ford’s permission. Unless the therapist has also been corrupted (I suppose that would be easy for all these former FBI/DoJ people to do), the notes would follow a more valid chain of custody.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Grassley&#8217;s Conan moment.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-demands-correspondence-between-ford-legal-team-and-dem-senators" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-demands-correspondence-between-ford-legal-team-and-dem-senators</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley <b>demanded lawyers for Christine Blasey Ford turn over records of communications between their legal team and the offices of Democratic Sens.</b> Dianne Feinstein and Mazie Hirono “in light of recently uncovered information.”</p>
<p>Grassley, R-Iowa, penned a letter to Ford’s legal team late Thursday, renewing requests for evidence. Grassley said the evidence in question had been referenced numerous times to support Ford’s allegations that Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her at a high school party 36 years ago.</p>
<p>“I urge you once again, now for the third time in writing, to turn over the therapy notes, polygraph materials, and communications with The Washington Post that Dr. Ford has relied upon as evidence,” Grassley wrote, following up on his initial letter sent on Oct. 2. “In addition to the evidence I requested in my October 2 letter, in light of recently uncovered information, please turn over records and descriptions of direct or indirect communications between Dr. Ford or her representatives and any of the following…”</p>
<p>Grassley requested communications between Ford’s legal team and senators and staffs—“particularly the offices of Senators Feinstein and Hirono,” and &lt;b?communications with the “alleged witnesses” identified by Ford—Mark Judge, Leland Keyser and Patrick “P.J.” Smith.</p>
<p>Grassley also called for records of communications between Ford’s legal team and the other women leveling allegations against Kavanaugh—“Deborah Ramirez, Julie Swetnick, or their representatives.”</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
<b>It is unclear at this point what the “recently uncovered information” is.</b><br />
&#8230;<br />
“The U.S. Senate doesn’t control the FBI. If you have an objection to how the FBI conducts its investigation, take it up with Director Wray.<b> But don’t raise that objection as a reason not to respond to this Committee’s demand for relevant evidence,”</b> Grassley wrote. “Even if the FBI never interviews Dr. Ford, or interviews her ten times, this Committee has a constitutional obligation to investigate Dr. Ford’s allegations, and that’s what we’ve been doing since we became aware of her allegations.”</p>
<p>Grassley said that Ford’s team’s refusal to provide evidence prevented the Senate from considering Ford’s allegations.<br />
&#8230;<br />
“I don’t know what other interference we should draw from your refusal <b>but that the withheld evidence does not support Dr. Ford’s allegations </b>in quite the way you have claimed,” Grassley wrote.&#8221;</p>
<p>* * *<br />
A Treehouse commenter recommends subpoenaing the therapist&#8217;s notes directly from her, as Ford&#8217;s team might have tampered with their copies.</p>
<p>57 Alpha says:<br />
October 5, 2018 at 1:23 pm<br />
I don’t get why Grassley is asking Ford / her lawyers for the therapy notes. In fact, they should NOT obtain the notes from Ford because she or others may well have modified the notes. All she needs is the therapist’s name and Ford’s permission. Unless the therapist has also been corrupted (I suppose that would be easy for all these former FBI/DoJ people to do), the notes would follow a more valid chain of custody.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/video/2018/10/05/chuck-grassley-witnesses-told-fbi-they-were-pressured-to-corroborate-allegations/

&quot;Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Ia., said Friday during an interview that FBI form 302s from the investigation indicate multiple witnesses were pressured to change their stories so that they’d corroborate accusations. The chairman was responding to a report in The Wall Street Journal claiming a friend of Christine Blasey Ford told FBI investigators that she felt pressured to change her initial statement that did not corroborate the alleged sexual assault.

“There is evidence I can’t speak about because it’s in the FBI report. But there’s evidence about other people that have been questioned — that they were led into it, as well,” Chairman Grassley said. &quot;

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-the-executive-summary-of-the-fbis-supplemental-investigation-into-kavanaugh-allegations

&quot;At the Senate Judiciary Committee’s request, the FBI opened a supplemental background investigation into Judge Kavanaugh. It’s his seventh FBI background investigation in 25 years, going back to 1993. The request was for an investigation into current credible allegations against Judge Kavanaugh.

In the course of its investigation, the FBI decided to reach out to eleven people, ten of whom agreed to be interviewed. The FBI reached out to all witnesses with potential firsthand knowledge of the allegations. The FBI provided to the Senate 12 detailed FD-302 reports summarizing their interviews with the witnesses as well as supporting materials cited by the witnesses during their interviews.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/video/2018/10/05/chuck-grassley-witnesses-told-fbi-they-were-pressured-to-corroborate-allegations/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/video/2018/10/05/chuck-grassley-witnesses-told-fbi-they-were-pressured-to-corroborate-allegations/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Ia., said Friday during an interview that FBI form 302s from the investigation indicate multiple witnesses were pressured to change their stories so that they’d corroborate accusations. The chairman was responding to a report in The Wall Street Journal claiming a friend of Christine Blasey Ford told FBI investigators that she felt pressured to change her initial statement that did not corroborate the alleged sexual assault.</p>
<p>“There is evidence I can’t speak about because it’s in the FBI report. But there’s evidence about other people that have been questioned — that they were led into it, as well,” Chairman Grassley said. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-the-executive-summary-of-the-fbis-supplemental-investigation-into-kavanaugh-allegations" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-the-executive-summary-of-the-fbis-supplemental-investigation-into-kavanaugh-allegations</a></p>
<p>&#8220;At the Senate Judiciary Committee’s request, the FBI opened a supplemental background investigation into Judge Kavanaugh. It’s his seventh FBI background investigation in 25 years, going back to 1993. The request was for an investigation into current credible allegations against Judge Kavanaugh.</p>
<p>In the course of its investigation, the FBI decided to reach out to eleven people, ten of whom agreed to be interviewed. The FBI reached out to all witnesses with potential firsthand knowledge of the allegations. The FBI provided to the Senate 12 detailed FD-302 reports summarizing their interviews with the witnesses as well as supporting materials cited by the witnesses during their interviews.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WSJ is not a tabloid - yet - but Senator Grassley&#039;s remarks about the fake news that didn&#039;t want to interview any pro-Kavanaugh protestors seem relevant here.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/protesters-raise-voices-over-kavanaugh-1538752711

Hundreds of demonstrators crowded a Senate office building to oppose his confirmation
Oct. 5, 2018 11:18 a.m. ET]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WSJ is not a tabloid &#8211; yet &#8211; but Senator Grassley&#8217;s remarks about the fake news that didn&#8217;t want to interview any pro-Kavanaugh protestors seem relevant here.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/protesters-raise-voices-over-kavanaugh-1538752711" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wsj.com/articles/protesters-raise-voices-over-kavanaugh-1538752711</a></p>
<p>Hundreds of demonstrators crowded a Senate office building to oppose his confirmation<br />
Oct. 5, 2018 11:18 a.m. ET</p>
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