Comments on: Tech and tiffs

By: om

om — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 15:11:30 +0000

Harry:
It could be worse, think Eugene or Portland? What do the tolerant progressives do for public shaming now days (cross burning on the lawn is probably out)? My Masters in Geology is from OSU so I have many fond memories of Corvallis and that area (late 70’s early 80’s).

By: Harry

Harry — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 02:41:27 +0000

Hello AesopFan,
I forgot to mention my question got a lot of likes, probably more than the moderators like to see but almost no supporting comments.

They’ve booted “progressives” as well, but most of these were down right way to vulgar and harassing in nature for a family friendly community board, However, any comment directed towards me on a controversial subject like homelessness which is a sizable issue here, are often snidely condescending and personal in nature but apparently well within boundaries . A conservative, however, must always tread lightly….

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 00:45:14 +0000

For completeness, the counter-positions are
(1) Kavanaugh is not proven guilty – or is proven innocent AND women’s complaints will still be taken seriously and investigated fairly (which is not really what the left wants);
(2) Kavanaugh is actually guilty (a long-shot IMO) — or is not unequivocably proven innocent (equivalent to the left) AND all other men still have to be investigated individually when accused.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 00:37:20 +0000

Harry “They’d only have another full moderator melt-down sometime in the near future so I just quit the page.”
* * *
The Operation Game is a very good analogy, if you replace the buzzer with land mines.

Because you quit the page, I suppose they now have NO ONE who will question their leftist bubble (can snowflakes be in a bubble?), but that is how the pollsters and pundits missed Trump’s supporters: they literally did not know any, because they kept unfriending anyone that might be the least bit doubtful of the leftist agenda and ideology.

I have some good friends who are fairly sane progressives, some who are rabid Democrats but not totally lost to reason, and some on the right ranging from moderate to passionate (not extremists, unless you go to the Goldwater definition), but these people that you and others are talking about are unhinged.

My position: Trust but verify ALL sides of any question.

I almost said BOTH, but that is the “horns of the dilemma” that the Unmakers want us to be impaled on. You can see it in the way they frame Kavanaugh v. Ford as having only two possible choices:
(1) IF you support Kavanaugh – or he is exonerated because he is innocent — then no woman anywhere will ever be believed again (even if her accusations are true); this is a position I have not seen taken by anyone on the right in any way whatsoever, because it is not true.
(2) IF you support Ford – regardless of the truth-value of her story — then you must believe that all men everywhere are lying predators; this is a position which no one on the right can tolerate having enshrined in law or government, because it is not true.

They will not even allow a third position that “something happened to Ford but it wasn’t Kavanaugh’s fault” because the only way to gin up enough contention to retain their hold on power is to force everyone into one or the other of their tribes.

By: John

John — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 23:30:52 +0000

If you think the left has gone berserk in the Kavanaugh hearings, just wait and see how they act if President Trump has the pleasure of replacing Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

By: Harry

Harry — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 22:28:27 +0000

I was, up till Friday night, a member of the facebook group “Corvallis People”, a page dedicated for the residents of Corvallis Oregon that wasnt supposed to include politics but often does, mostly instigated by…guess who? Community members on the left. The three moderators are naturally all liberals, this is a blue on blue state and a university town after all.
Anyway, the page was Kavenaugh free up-till Friday night when some in the community organized an anti-Kavenagh rally at the courthouse which is often a staging point for these things. That got posted to the website as well as another post that drew lots of emotional responses from mostly women as well as super-woke males, this included pictures of someones lawn with signs that read “Believe all women” and similar. Many responses from the female membership expressed an emotional reaction saying they cried after seeing these signs. The person whose lawn held these signs held up as a hero. I simply asked if all women should be believed in all circumstances or only when politically helpful. My god, the crap storm that ensued just from that question! You could practically hear the screaming from the written responses. My question was treated as though it violated some sanctity. many people accused me of bringing politics into the subject as though it wasnt there already. Kavenaugh and the Republicans are just evil and its like denying the holocaust to even think otherwise.
My commenting privileges were cut until Tuesday (tomorrow). I asked the lead moderator what landmine I stepped on this time ( I got suspended for one day for asking a politically inappropriate question a previous time). Apparently my question precipitated a discussion with all three moderators, two of whom thought I should be banned from that group immediately. The lead moderator said she stuck up for me and said I could stay on if I would “work with her” on what I post. I told her I thought what she wanted was way too narrow. It would be like playing that game “Operation” where you have to be super careful about removing a wrench or what have you from the patient with out touching the sides or a buzzer goes off and you loose. They’d only have another full moderator melt-down sometime in the near future so I just quit the page.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 16:44:26 +0000

“It was probably the Deep state hacking Neo’s site to obtain emails of deplorables”

Well, they certainly have mine! Things appear to be back to normal on Neo’s post this morning, so far as I can tell.

No fake names attached to my comments, anyway.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:01:22 +0000

Art Deco

same thing happened to me, the name I got assigned was Rich from Chicago, any Rich from Chicago here?

It was probably the Deep state hacking Neo’s site to obtain emails of deplorables

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:26:40 +0000

[Very peculiar. Your site saved my name as ‘Ron’ with a bellsouth e-mail address. No clue who that is]

The political culture among the left and the right is dissimilar. Our Republican friends (bar two) make no political posts on social media. The other two make an occasional (fairly light-hearted) comment (e.g. a thumbs up for Melania). They use Facebook to post vacation pictures, pix of their grandchildren. The political posters are 90% gliberals and leftoids, 10% too-cool-for-school libertarians. The liberal posters give you dippy memes and John Oliver clips because that’s the level on which they think.

By: Phillipa Crawford

Phillipa Crawford — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 12:11:49 +0000

Glad you are back, Neo. When I had trouble on Friday I assumed it was the Instalanche and figured that was a bittersweet problem. There’s nothing sweet about bots.

Imagine the state of discourse if Trump gets another appointment. Or wins the mid-terms in a big way.