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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2406202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thought I already posted this.  Maybe elsewhere by mistake.
CFB has been in CA so long she&#039;s picked up a permanent vocal fry, or has a very bad cold.  In either case, it substitutes for actual emotion.
She&#039;s a freaking PSYCHOLOGIST.  We were introduced to the polygraph, theory and (mal) practice in Intro to Psych for sophomores.  She cannot, cannot be telling the truth about her unfamiliarity with the process, her fear, and the stress she underwent. In addition, such stress would make the results useless. You need an unstressed baseline when you are telling the truth. The operator asks various questions about you that have no bearing on the issue, that he already knows since you&#039;ve already told him--place of birth, school, etc--in order to compare when the questions at issue are asked.  If the baseline is messed up, there is nothing to which to compare answers to the relevant questions.
Some have said that remembering nothing, or being unable to recall  large chunks of the assault, is common among victims.  I&#039;ll take that as true since addressing it is not likely to be fruitful.  But I&#039;m not aware of any research in which the attack causes the victim to later name as witnesses those who either refute the assertion entirely or have no idea what she&#039;s talking about.  Which could be a refutation if the victim&#039;s assertion is that they were at the party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I already posted this.  Maybe elsewhere by mistake.<br />
CFB has been in CA so long she&#8217;s picked up a permanent vocal fry, or has a very bad cold.  In either case, it substitutes for actual emotion.<br />
She&#8217;s a freaking PSYCHOLOGIST.  We were introduced to the polygraph, theory and (mal) practice in Intro to Psych for sophomores.  She cannot, cannot be telling the truth about her unfamiliarity with the process, her fear, and the stress she underwent. In addition, such stress would make the results useless. You need an unstressed baseline when you are telling the truth. The operator asks various questions about you that have no bearing on the issue, that he already knows since you&#8217;ve already told him&#8211;place of birth, school, etc&#8211;in order to compare when the questions at issue are asked.  If the baseline is messed up, there is nothing to which to compare answers to the relevant questions.<br />
Some have said that remembering nothing, or being unable to recall  large chunks of the assault, is common among victims.  I&#8217;ll take that as true since addressing it is not likely to be fruitful.  But I&#8217;m not aware of any research in which the attack causes the victim to later name as witnesses those who either refute the assertion entirely or have no idea what she&#8217;s talking about.  Which could be a refutation if the victim&#8217;s assertion is that they were at the party.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405938</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave:

Not accusing you of anything, but do you still...…   Just askin, after all Dr. Ford&#039;s memory and veracity are exemplary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:</p>
<p>Not accusing you of anything, but do you still&#8230;…   Just askin, after all Dr. Ford&#8217;s memory and veracity are exemplary.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405927</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 23:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not accusing Mark Judge of anything, but 
Why would Mark Judge appeared extremely uncomfortable seeing the woman he pretty much rescued?

uneasiness is usually a reaction displayed on someone who is guilty of something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not accusing Mark Judge of anything, but<br />
Why would Mark Judge appeared extremely uncomfortable seeing the woman he pretty much rescued?</p>
<p>uneasiness is usually a reaction displayed on someone who is guilty of something.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405915</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is where the &quot;100%&quot; came from, at the beginning of Ford&#039;s testimony.

Zerohedge Update III: &quot;In response to a question from Sen. Dick Durbin, Ford said she remembers encountering Mark Judge once following the assault during a trip to the Potomac Safeway, and that he appeared extremely uncomfortable, despite the two of them being friendly before the assault. Asked by Durbin about whether she could be mistaken about Kavanaugh&#039;s identity, she said she is &quot;100% certain&quot; that it was Kavanaugh who had assaulted her.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where the &#8220;100%&#8221; came from, at the beginning of Ford&#8217;s testimony.</p>
<p>Zerohedge Update III: &#8220;In response to a question from Sen. Dick Durbin, Ford said she remembers encountering Mark Judge once following the assault during a trip to the Potomac Safeway, and that he appeared extremely uncomfortable, despite the two of them being friendly before the assault. Asked by Durbin about whether she could be mistaken about Kavanaugh&#8217;s identity, she said she is &#8220;100% certain&#8221; that it was Kavanaugh who had assaulted her.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I now have a lot more respect for the skill of the people who do simultaneous transcription or translation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now have a lot more respect for the skill of the people who do simultaneous transcription or translation.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405912</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not listening to WaPo&#039;s closing; we know they will spin for Ford, but they haven&#039;t been totally unfair to Kavanaugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not listening to WaPo&#8217;s closing; we know they will spin for Ford, but they haven&#8217;t been totally unfair to Kavanaugh.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Flake - this is not a good process but it&#039;s all we&#039;ve got.
(no, it&#039;s not, and Cruz &#038; Grassley just said so)

Kennedy - sorry for both, it could have been avoided.
Do you believe in God?
&quot;I&#039;m gonna give you a last opportunity in front of God and everybody: are Dr Ford&#039;s allegations true?&quot;
K: not as pertaining to me

Ramirez not supported by anything, likewise Avenatti&#039;s total nonsense.

K: zero doubt in my mind; I swear to God.

Hearing adjourned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flake &#8211; this is not a good process but it&#8217;s all we&#8217;ve got.<br />
(no, it&#8217;s not, and Cruz &amp; Grassley just said so)</p>
<p>Kennedy &#8211; sorry for both, it could have been avoided.<br />
Do you believe in God?<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m gonna give you a last opportunity in front of God and everybody: are Dr Ford&#8217;s allegations true?&#8221;<br />
K: not as pertaining to me</p>
<p>Ramirez not supported by anything, likewise Avenatti&#8217;s total nonsense.</p>
<p>K: zero doubt in my mind; I swear to God.</p>
<p>Hearing adjourned.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Harris: have you had a polygraph?
K: will do whatever is wanted, they aren&#039;t admissible, they aren&#039;t reliable.
H: (back to the FBI investigation again; are these people totally tone deaf, stupid, or giving the media a choice of sympathetic sound-bites to claim K refuses to be investigated?)

(their goal is to turn &quot;are you willing to ask the WH to conduct such an investigation&quot; into &quot;He DID ask so let&#039;s suspend the hearings)

K: I&#039;ve had 6.
(He is too cagey to get caught in that trap, thank goodness)

H: compares his treatment to that of Gorsuch, who was not  accused of sexual assault &quot;how do you explain that&quot;
(it&#039;s a canny insinuation)

K: witness statements again

Turns her next question on its head, about the probability that a man can treat lots of women well and some badly.

H: did you watch Dr. Ford&#039;s testimony (links to Thomas hearing)
K: did not; preparing mine]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harris: have you had a polygraph?<br />
K: will do whatever is wanted, they aren&#8217;t admissible, they aren&#8217;t reliable.<br />
H: (back to the FBI investigation again; are these people totally tone deaf, stupid, or giving the media a choice of sympathetic sound-bites to claim K refuses to be investigated?)</p>
<p>(their goal is to turn &#8220;are you willing to ask the WH to conduct such an investigation&#8221; into &#8220;He DID ask so let&#8217;s suspend the hearings)</p>
<p>K: I&#8217;ve had 6.<br />
(He is too cagey to get caught in that trap, thank goodness)</p>
<p>H: compares his treatment to that of Gorsuch, who was not  accused of sexual assault &#8220;how do you explain that&#8221;<br />
(it&#8217;s a canny insinuation)</p>
<p>K: witness statements again</p>
<p>Turns her next question on its head, about the probability that a man can treat lots of women well and some badly.</p>
<p>H: did you watch Dr. Ford&#8217;s testimony (links to Thomas hearing)<br />
K: did not; preparing mine</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Feinstein: thinks the leak came from the friends she talked to about the letter.
Cornyn (I can&#039;t read his name plate): how did the press know?

(inconclusive- could have happened that way)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feinstein: thinks the leak came from the friends she talked to about the letter.<br />
Cornyn (I can&#8217;t read his name plate): how did the press know?</p>
<p>(inconclusive- could have happened that way)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/27/open-thread-2/#comment-2405907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[C: Ford said that only 3 people had her letter, and her attorney didn&#039;t release it, so it had to be one of the other true.

Feinstein asks to respond.  &quot;I did not hide Dr. Ford&#039;s allegations. I did not leak her story.&quot;
Back to the &quot;stalked by the press&quot; (but I still want to know: who leaked the letter to Ronan Farrow?)

Claims majority didn&#039;t tell her or her staff about some of the things they did (not mentioning that she was doing the same.)

Cornyn?? asks if her staff leaked it, but she has not asked anyone directly, how did it get in the hands of the press.

C: Somebody leaked it if it wasn&#039;t you.

Cruz: does the committee have a process for confidential consideration?
G: yes we do
C: what would you have done if the allegation had been raised timely?
G: (explains rational process)
C: so it could have been investigated two months ago confidentially]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C: Ford said that only 3 people had her letter, and her attorney didn&#8217;t release it, so it had to be one of the other true.</p>
<p>Feinstein asks to respond.  &#8220;I did not hide Dr. Ford&#8217;s allegations. I did not leak her story.&#8221;<br />
Back to the &#8220;stalked by the press&#8221; (but I still want to know: who leaked the letter to Ronan Farrow?)</p>
<p>Claims majority didn&#8217;t tell her or her staff about some of the things they did (not mentioning that she was doing the same.)</p>
<p>Cornyn?? asks if her staff leaked it, but she has not asked anyone directly, how did it get in the hands of the press.</p>
<p>C: Somebody leaked it if it wasn&#8217;t you.</p>
<p>Cruz: does the committee have a process for confidential consideration?<br />
G: yes we do<br />
C: what would you have done if the allegation had been raised timely?<br />
G: (explains rational process)<br />
C: so it could have been investigated two months ago confidentially</p>
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