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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2403284</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 00:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yann:

No problem. It was easy to misunderstand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yann:</p>
<p>No problem. It was easy to misunderstand.</p>
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		By: Yann		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2403281</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Yann:
Read my sentence again. I composed it very carefully.  I do NOT say he gave her drugs without her consent.  I said he may have had sex with her without her consent, having given her drugs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My fault, then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yann:<br />
Read my sentence again. I composed it very carefully.  I do NOT say he gave her drugs without her consent.  I said he may have had sex with her without her consent, having given her drugs.</p></blockquote>
<p>My fault, then.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2403169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yann:

Read my sentence again.  I composed it very carefully.  I do NOT say he gave her drugs without her consent. I said he may have had sex with her without her consent, &lt;i&gt;having given her drugs&lt;/i&gt;.  I think the preponderance of evidence is that the drugs were with the women&#039;s consent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yann:</p>
<p>Read my sentence again.  I composed it very carefully.  I do NOT say he gave her drugs without her consent. I said he may have had sex with her without her consent, <i>having given her drugs</i>.  I think the preponderance of evidence is that the drugs were with the women&#8217;s consent.</p>
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		By: doug whiddon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2403138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doug whiddon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This whole Cosby thing is upsetting to me. I grew up with Cosby show and had all of Bills wonderful stand up on cassette tape (youtube Bills Noah bit, its his best IMHO)

Where are the Editors when you need them? (FAQ About Time Travel)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole Cosby thing is upsetting to me. I grew up with Cosby show and had all of Bills wonderful stand up on cassette tape (youtube Bills Noah bit, its his best IMHO)</p>
<p>Where are the Editors when you need them? (FAQ About Time Travel)</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2403011</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But it also puts me in league with the Founding Fathers, who were very concerned about such issues. Their deep concern and the protections they built into the Constitution have protected us for a long time, but I fear that concern has virtually evaporated in the face of MeToo. And actually, it’s been evaporating for quite some time.&quot; Neo

Yes.  This is a grave concern.  Julie near Chicago succinctly expresses the potential outcome of this unfortunate development.  Ignorance of the foundational principles of our Republic is undermining our society.  And social media seems to be a huge factor in creating a &quot;mob mentality&quot; about any subject du jour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it also puts me in league with the Founding Fathers, who were very concerned about such issues. Their deep concern and the protections they built into the Constitution have protected us for a long time, but I fear that concern has virtually evaporated in the face of MeToo. And actually, it’s been evaporating for quite some time.&#8221; Neo</p>
<p>Yes.  This is a grave concern.  Julie near Chicago succinctly expresses the potential outcome of this unfortunate development.  Ignorance of the foundational principles of our Republic is undermining our society.  And social media seems to be a huge factor in creating a &#8220;mob mentality&#8221; about any subject du jour.</p>
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		By: Yann		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2402533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean I think he’s guilty of at times having sex with women (or at least one woman) without their consent, having given them drugs. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d be careful there. The media usually reports that he acknowledged to have drugged one woman. But that isn&#039;t actually true.

I read the transcription time ago, and it was something like that:
- Did you gave drugs to X?
- Yes

Actually, the lawyer never said &#039;without her consent&#039;, neither he asked &#039;did you drug her?&#039;. That&#039;s a tricky question. If you bring some weed and pass a joint to a woman, you should answer &#039;yes&#039; to that question, since you actually &#039;gave&#039; it to her. The verb &#039;to give&#039; doesn&#039;t involve lack of consent. That&#039;s the reason because the media always states that he acknowledged to have drugged a woman, but &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; quotes the exact words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mean I think he’s guilty of at times having sex with women (or at least one woman) without their consent, having given them drugs. </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d be careful there. The media usually reports that he acknowledged to have drugged one woman. But that isn&#8217;t actually true.</p>
<p>I read the transcription time ago, and it was something like that:<br />
&#8211; Did you gave drugs to X?<br />
&#8211; Yes</p>
<p>Actually, the lawyer never said &#8216;without her consent&#8217;, neither he asked &#8216;did you drug her?&#8217;. That&#8217;s a tricky question. If you bring some weed and pass a joint to a woman, you should answer &#8216;yes&#8217; to that question, since you actually &#8216;gave&#8217; it to her. The verb &#8216;to give&#8217; doesn&#8217;t involve lack of consent. That&#8217;s the reason because the media always states that he acknowledged to have drugged a woman, but <b>never</b> quotes the exact words.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2401204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

There were two kinds of sitcom families in the 50s, the ideal and the real (or if not real, at least grittier).  The premier example of the first is &quot;Father Knows Best&quot; and another was &quot;Ozzie and Harriet&quot; and still another &quot;The Donna Reed Show.&quot; Much of it was played for laughs, however, even the ideal.  They were meant to present a wholesome, healthy picture as well as being amusing.  Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz&#039;s show occupied some middle ground.  The grittier shows were the William Bendix show &quot;Life of Riley&quot; and of course Gleason&#039;s &quot;The Honeymooners.&quot; I watched them all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>There were two kinds of sitcom families in the 50s, the ideal and the real (or if not real, at least grittier).  The premier example of the first is &#8220;Father Knows Best&#8221; and another was &#8220;Ozzie and Harriet&#8221; and still another &#8220;The Donna Reed Show.&#8221; Much of it was played for laughs, however, even the ideal.  They were meant to present a wholesome, healthy picture as well as being amusing.  Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz&#8217;s show occupied some middle ground.  The grittier shows were the William Bendix show &#8220;Life of Riley&#8221; and of course Gleason&#8217;s &#8220;The Honeymooners.&#8221; I watched them all.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2401200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Acutally, I’d say the Huxtables were quite normal. Not “normal” in the sense of “average,” but in the sense of “well-functioning.”&lt;/i&gt;

OK.  I&#039;m recalling the editor Edwin Faust offering that he found sitcom families of the 1950s disconcerting at the time and retrospectively because their inveterate congeniality was not family life as he&#039;d known it and seen it.  (Mr. Faust&#039;s magazine articles can be found in &lt;i&gt;The Latin Mass&lt;/i&gt;, all offline, I believe).  As a youngster, I reacted to Fred Rogers roughly the  same way (and I do believe Rogers merits more of a critique than an  affirmation).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Acutally, I’d say the Huxtables were quite normal. Not “normal” in the sense of “average,” but in the sense of “well-functioning.”</i></p>
<p>OK.  I&#8217;m recalling the editor Edwin Faust offering that he found sitcom families of the 1950s disconcerting at the time and retrospectively because their inveterate congeniality was not family life as he&#8217;d known it and seen it.  (Mr. Faust&#8217;s magazine articles can be found in <i>The Latin Mass</i>, all offline, I believe).  As a youngster, I reacted to Fred Rogers roughly the  same way (and I do believe Rogers merits more of a critique than an  affirmation).</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2401199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

Acutally, I&#039;d say the Huxtables were quite normal. Not &quot;normal&quot; in the sense of &quot;average,&quot; but in the sense of &quot;well-functioning.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>Acutally, I&#8217;d say the Huxtables were quite normal. Not &#8220;normal&#8221; in the sense of &#8220;average,&#8221; but in the sense of &#8220;well-functioning.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/09/24/lets-take-a-look-at-bill-cosby-again-shall-we/#comment-2401190</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Art Deco: I’m mid fifties and I remember Room 222: Michael Constantine, Karen Valentine.&lt;/i&gt;

Michael Constantine is still alive at age 91.  His last screen credit is dated 2016.  All the adolescent and peri-adult actors in the show are now eligible for Medicare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art Deco: I’m mid fifties and I remember Room 222: Michael Constantine, Karen Valentine.</i></p>
<p>Michael Constantine is still alive at age 91.  His last screen credit is dated 2016.  All the adolescent and peri-adult actors in the show are now eligible for Medicare.</p>
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