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		By: Surellin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/08/10/bret-easton-ellis-on-identity-politics/#comment-2394688</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surellin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Milo Yiannopoulis is very fond of Easton.  I begin to see why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milo Yiannopoulis is very fond of Easton.  I begin to see why.</p>
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		By: Zimriel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/08/10/bret-easton-ellis-on-identity-politics/#comment-2394167</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2018 04:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The movie which I loved, and which I think that Ellis thinks is the best movie from his work, was Rules Of Attraction.

Based on that, I don&#039;t think Ellis is AC/DC. I think he&#039;s homosexual. I agree he&#039;s not Gay, though. He has no tolerance for the drama queens cluttering up his circle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie which I loved, and which I think that Ellis thinks is the best movie from his work, was Rules Of Attraction.</p>
<p>Based on that, I don&#8217;t think Ellis is AC/DC. I think he&#8217;s homosexual. I agree he&#8217;s not Gay, though. He has no tolerance for the drama queens cluttering up his circle.</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/08/10/bret-easton-ellis-on-identity-politics/#comment-2394051</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[His core data is available online so I&#039;ll do an assessment of his personality chart using sources.

Ellis likes to be, internally, on a big adventure, to explore new and innovative ideas. That is why publishers have issues with him since publishers prefer mainstream and safe things. His confidence is like Trum&#039;s, but without the showmanship, outwards appearance focus. His is more internal and is based on humor or making jokes. He likes new experiences and is straightforward in many respects concerning what he says. He has a tendency towards dark humor, or at least the potential for it, and this can be used to smooth his way when things get warlike or conflict prone based on what he says or does. The new and strange he is attracted towards, at least in part, and does not fear new things as much as say others.

His character liking Trum is a good example of that type of dark humor that is designed to make him hard to predict or read, as well as observing both sides and being neutral. He doesn&#039;t want to pick a side because it would limit his experience.

His inherent fate is tied to fame and fortune, but the negative side of that potential is that his ego can get out of bound very easily and he starts paying less attention to what other people want. This is pretty normal for people connected to Hollywood in some shape or form, although it looks like Ellis has avoided that entanglement for most of his life. He could have been more famous and wealthy if he had sacrificed even more things to Hollywood ; )


One of his peculiar unique aspects is that he uses his pride as a sort of way to reinforce his ethical behavior. Those two aspects are tied together. Given his statements, it looks like he has fulfilled most of that potential by now and has kept the negative effects in check for now.

Peculiar and specific to Ellis is that he has financial issues. Meaning, he seems to have income but has problems either retaining it or keeping it or growing the liquid funds. His marital life is not exactly easy sailing either.

Ellis should have a very strong desire for independence or for control over his life. This is backed by his intuition more than his knowledge, social connections, or economic circles.

His internal mood is not necessarily the same as what he shows on his surface persona either. That tends to change a little bit more often than others. Beneath the outer veneer of his persona, he does not like to kiss up to famous people nor does he like injustice. 

This guy has several indicators and reinforcements of certain internal motivations such as freedom loving, justice loving, and so on. It is not based on respect for a nation or the US Constitution. He has some potential to be a politician, a doctor, or an administrator.

He may have a tendency to buy things on impulse, to collect or hoard things that he likes seeing or using for his own purposes. This is centered around the selfish/pride issue, if he doesn&#039;t keep that in check. 

His whole persona comes across as daring, not just in his work field. His intelligence and self confidence is well above the average.

On a personal note, I don&#039;t know Ellis from Satan Clause, these are just external sources assessing him. It should be quite accurate, inaccuracies would be the result of my own misinterpretation of certain things as well as the individual&#039;s ability to change himself or his path in life.

People think the DS is spying on them via Facebook? Snorts, wait until people realize what else is going on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His core data is available online so I&#8217;ll do an assessment of his personality chart using sources.</p>
<p>Ellis likes to be, internally, on a big adventure, to explore new and innovative ideas. That is why publishers have issues with him since publishers prefer mainstream and safe things. His confidence is like Trum&#8217;s, but without the showmanship, outwards appearance focus. His is more internal and is based on humor or making jokes. He likes new experiences and is straightforward in many respects concerning what he says. He has a tendency towards dark humor, or at least the potential for it, and this can be used to smooth his way when things get warlike or conflict prone based on what he says or does. The new and strange he is attracted towards, at least in part, and does not fear new things as much as say others.</p>
<p>His character liking Trum is a good example of that type of dark humor that is designed to make him hard to predict or read, as well as observing both sides and being neutral. He doesn&#8217;t want to pick a side because it would limit his experience.</p>
<p>His inherent fate is tied to fame and fortune, but the negative side of that potential is that his ego can get out of bound very easily and he starts paying less attention to what other people want. This is pretty normal for people connected to Hollywood in some shape or form, although it looks like Ellis has avoided that entanglement for most of his life. He could have been more famous and wealthy if he had sacrificed even more things to Hollywood ; )</p>
<p>One of his peculiar unique aspects is that he uses his pride as a sort of way to reinforce his ethical behavior. Those two aspects are tied together. Given his statements, it looks like he has fulfilled most of that potential by now and has kept the negative effects in check for now.</p>
<p>Peculiar and specific to Ellis is that he has financial issues. Meaning, he seems to have income but has problems either retaining it or keeping it or growing the liquid funds. His marital life is not exactly easy sailing either.</p>
<p>Ellis should have a very strong desire for independence or for control over his life. This is backed by his intuition more than his knowledge, social connections, or economic circles.</p>
<p>His internal mood is not necessarily the same as what he shows on his surface persona either. That tends to change a little bit more often than others. Beneath the outer veneer of his persona, he does not like to kiss up to famous people nor does he like injustice. </p>
<p>This guy has several indicators and reinforcements of certain internal motivations such as freedom loving, justice loving, and so on. It is not based on respect for a nation or the US Constitution. He has some potential to be a politician, a doctor, or an administrator.</p>
<p>He may have a tendency to buy things on impulse, to collect or hoard things that he likes seeing or using for his own purposes. This is centered around the selfish/pride issue, if he doesn&#8217;t keep that in check. </p>
<p>His whole persona comes across as daring, not just in his work field. His intelligence and self confidence is well above the average.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I don&#8217;t know Ellis from Satan Clause, these are just external sources assessing him. It should be quite accurate, inaccuracies would be the result of my own misinterpretation of certain things as well as the individual&#8217;s ability to change himself or his path in life.</p>
<p>People think the DS is spying on them via Facebook? Snorts, wait until people realize what else is going on.</p>
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		By: Dave S.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/08/10/bret-easton-ellis-on-identity-politics/#comment-2394044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t read the book, but the film of American Psycho was a jet-black comedy.]]></description>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen both Less Than Zero and American Psycho films and liked them, especially the first.  (Only a little violence and no gore in LTZ Neo, if you care.)

The Trivia on LTZ over at IMDB, though not well put together, addresses some of Dave&#039;s questions.  The studio decided at the beginning that the decadence in the book had to be toned down, and the characters a bit more likeable compared to the book.

Ellis initially hated the film partly because he had envisioned all the leads as blondes and they were mostly cast as brown haired.  The other thing he hated then and now was the casting of Andrew McCarthy as the quasi-hero which I think is loosely based on Ellis himself.  He also said that 20 years later, he likes the film, with the exception of McCarthy.

While neither film is philosophically deep, American Psycho is structurally complex.  I always appreciate a novel or film that makes you work to grasp all of things it is trying to say.  Which parts of the film are delusion, hallucination, or an accurate self-parody of an investment banker on Wall St?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen both Less Than Zero and American Psycho films and liked them, especially the first.  (Only a little violence and no gore in LTZ Neo, if you care.)</p>
<p>The Trivia on LTZ over at IMDB, though not well put together, addresses some of Dave&#8217;s questions.  The studio decided at the beginning that the decadence in the book had to be toned down, and the characters a bit more likeable compared to the book.</p>
<p>Ellis initially hated the film partly because he had envisioned all the leads as blondes and they were mostly cast as brown haired.  The other thing he hated then and now was the casting of Andrew McCarthy as the quasi-hero which I think is loosely based on Ellis himself.  He also said that 20 years later, he likes the film, with the exception of McCarthy.</p>
<p>While neither film is philosophically deep, American Psycho is structurally complex.  I always appreciate a novel or film that makes you work to grasp all of things it is trying to say.  Which parts of the film are delusion, hallucination, or an accurate self-parody of an investment banker on Wall St?</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, the movie was quite different from the novel- a far different tone and structure.   Since i had read the novel before seeing the movie, it was quite striking to me at the time.  I learned many years later (2010 or 2011) when the author wrote the sequel that he didn&#039;t like the movie at all and refused to see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, the movie was quite different from the novel- a far different tone and structure.   Since i had read the novel before seeing the movie, it was quite striking to me at the time.  I learned many years later (2010 or 2011) when the author wrote the sequel that he didn&#8217;t like the movie at all and refused to see it.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have loved his novels except for &lt;i&gt;American Psycho&lt;/i&gt;, and even it had parts to it that would recommend it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have loved his novels except for <i>American Psycho</i>, and even it had parts to it that would recommend it.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 18:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;He’s maybe something like a new Truman Capote, without the annoying manner and voice.&lt;/i&gt;

Ellis has been around for 30-odd years.  Capote ca. 1981 was spent as a producer of literature and three years from death.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He’s maybe something like a new Truman Capote, without the annoying manner and voice.</i></p>
<p>Ellis has been around for 30-odd years.  Capote ca. 1981 was spent as a producer of literature and three years from death.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 18:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was the book less than zero very different from the movie?  The movie to my surprise was pretty pro conservative, pretty much about a young conservative yuppie college student productive citizen coming home to save his best friend and former lover from their liberal progressive unproductive gratification focused self destructive life style.  but it was a different era debuted at the height of the Reagan era when being a young conservative was the hip thing to do (Family tie).  He hated the movie so I guess it wasn&#039;t supposed to be a accurate reflection of he true beliefs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the book less than zero very different from the movie?  The movie to my surprise was pretty pro conservative, pretty much about a young conservative yuppie college student productive citizen coming home to save his best friend and former lover from their liberal progressive unproductive gratification focused self destructive life style.  but it was a different era debuted at the height of the Reagan era when being a young conservative was the hip thing to do (Family tie).  He hated the movie so I guess it wasn&#8217;t supposed to be a accurate reflection of he true beliefs.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2018 17:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ellis is AC-DC and doesn&#039;t seem to have ever been immersed in the gay subculture. or to have been addled by the idea that he merited applause due to some Special quality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellis is AC-DC and doesn&#8217;t seem to have ever been immersed in the gay subculture. or to have been addled by the idea that he merited applause due to some Special quality.</p>
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