Sorry, your feedback isn’t my cup of tea.

Yeah, sure Neocon, if that’s your cup of tea then go for it.

Although the fact those historical examples, what your mentioned about WWII, still history giving us many examples that happen due to: wars, disasters, political consequences…etc.

But those more than three million left Iraq during the sanctions or those millions form Syria speaks loudly how they devastated by their own political system or by the external player.

But sanctions didn’t only devastate Iraq’s physical capital. They devastated its human capital too. According to one estimate, “more than three million professionals and intellectuals” left the country during the 1990s.

How Sanctions Feed Authoritarianism

Almost the entirety of what you wrote is irrelevant to the issue. For example, the fact that Jews were able to go to certain places many many centuries ago has nothing to do with the options that were open to them in the 1930s and during WWII.

1- when you said “for Jews …, was very different”
I do agree to some degree but in the end comparing this matter in our time today, also wars had its effects for the waves of immigration (legal & illegal immigrants) let take examples from war zones:
– Palestine ,
– Iraq,
– Libya,
– Syria
– Iran and more couturiers all these are experiencing War zones.

So there is no difference to those Jews when they immigrated due the WWII.

2- you saying (if they didn’t leave, and almost no country on earth would take them) history tell us there are many cases the Jew have choses to leave like those Andalusian Jew form early went to North Africa and even when to Ottoman Sultan

the Ottoman Empire* as the great consolation of the Jews because there the gates of free-dom are open and Judaism can be freely practiced.1 Life there is said to restore the human character. Here, the Jew can return to his ancient practices, abandoning the religion that has been forced upon him by those among whom he has wandered.

The Ottoman Empire and the Jews

Comparing Ottoman Empire vast borderer to today countries its give more chance and place for those Jews at that time not like today were countries with limited land and resources.

But there is main differences between those Illegal Immigrants o Holy-land and today Immigrants.

Those Jews Immigrates taking the land and free it to themselves to crating their own state, none of Immigrates in the past done so??

Please read these links may give you more to open your windows for the history.

Jews in Muslim Spain
GRANADA & ITS JEWISH HISTORY – REALEJO QUARTER
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The Golden Age of Jews in Sepharad/Al-Andalus
Islamic Spain in Middle Ages no paradise for Christians, Jews, women

Laura Khadduri School, the first Jewish school of girls in Baghdad, founded in 1893, reached 1388 students in 1950
Photos go back to 1920

It is a very recent phenomenon that the no-borders point of view has gained a large following.

And of course the situation for Jews during the build-up to WWII, as well as during WWII, was very different than the situation with illegal immigrants now. Jews faced intense and specific persecution (and later, death) if they didn’t leave, and almost no country on earth would take them. In contrast, most of the illegal immigrants today are economic migrants, or are simply leaving dysfunctional third-world countries. Also, many have quite a few choices of countries that will take them. It’s a very different situation.

In addition, for that small percentage of illegal immigrants today who face intense persecution or certain death, there is a way out via the asylum process. But that process has been much abused.

There are certain groups—and religious groups and people are prominent among them—who don’t believe in any limits, or who would set the limits in such a way as to exclude almost no one.

Yah, this was always the case?
let take sample from the history of illegal immigrants………….

Illegal immigration began on January 12, 1938, when the “Poseidon” brought 65 illegal immigrants who disembarked at Avihayil. At this time, the Jewish Agency operations were under the command of the Halutz department. Up to 1938, about 8,000 Jewish immigrants had entered Palestine illegally, to circumvent quotas that were already in effect under British emergency regulations before the White Paper of 1939.

Illegal immigration was organized by the “Mossad l’Aliya Bet” between 1939 and 1942, when a tightened British blockade and stricter controls in occupied Europe made it all but impossible, and again between 1945 and 1948. Even in the interim years, and especially in 1944, there were significant illegal immigration attempts.

European Jews were desperate for ways to leave Europe, but for the most part there were few options. No country was willing to take Jewish immigrants. However, some countries would give them transit visas. In particular, Romania was an Axis ally, but had a relatively lenient policy toward Jews, and a bribable officialdom, until it was actually invaded by the Germans. Romanian Jews and those from all over Europe who could escape gathered in Black Sea ports of their own accord, and different agencies, including profiteers, offered transportation in overcrowded death traps to Istanbul. From there, it would presumably be possible to get to Palestine. The Jewish Agency could not stop this immigration, they could only facilitate it. This is how the Romanian illegal immigration is described by one source:

However, the persecution of the Jews in Romania began long before the war. Under the oppression of the Romanian Iron Guards (the equivalent of the German SS) the Jews began fleeing the country from the port of Constanza to Palestine in 1938. An Associated Press dispatch dated March 2, 1939 described the city of Constanza as a huge refugee camp with thousands of Palestine-bound Jews forming lines in front of travel agencies that sold tickets for fly-by-night shipping companies. This inaugurated an era of the so-called “coffin ships” as all the vessels chartered for this purpose were rickety, unseaworthy boats devoid of amenities, crammed 5 to 10 times their normal capacities, and their destination was, in most cases, fatal.

1948 Israel Independence War

“And I do believe we as Christians are called to care for the stranger, orphan, widow specifically. But this is not care. Screaming for government intervention and blaming the other political side is not care. Care is what we do personally and corporately as a Church. ”
“My reason for thinking education a key is that I have seen with my own eyes that a strong middle class will take on the oligarchy to protect themselves and their children. ”
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Thanks for your addition to the symposium.
Your service with refugees and others is an excellent model.

On adopting refugees, you might be interested in this post on PowerLineBlog by a woman who stepped up and made that sacrifice twice, with mixed results.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/thoughts-from-the-ammo-line-225.php

“Now we also happen to know something about illegal alien children. In the early ’90s, we took in a 13-year-old boy, Antonio, from Honduras who had, of course, been coached to request asylum. He was an orphaned street child in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, who had walked from Honduras to Mexico and crossed the Rio Grande at Brownsville. He turned himself in and was placed in the children’s shelter. He referred to the shelter as the most wonderful home he had ever had before ours. They had classes, sports, lawyers, new clothes, food and a clean bed. Paid for by the terrible, racist American taxpayers. Feckless, every last one.”

Forget it Jake…he’s Episcopalian.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/episcopal-priest-or-muslim-redding-will-have-a-year-to-think-about-it/

Redding was, wait for it, the priest in charge of faith formation.

Look, you can either believe in the Isu of the Quran or the Yashua of the New Testament. Or, none. Your call. But you can’t have two. Priestess Redding wanted two. She believed in both the Isu who denied his divinity and the Yashua who confirmed his divinity.

Or so she claimed, the deacon of faith formation.

Folks, and I invite the atheists to weigh in. Thiis is to much of a stretch for me to make.

OBTW, Redding was eventually defroicked, As a Catholic horrified by this Pope I look at main line Protestantism and shudder.

Thanks for ignoring me. It tends to solve a lot of problems in the future.

As for your riposte, an easy counter would be to view how atheists see the Bible or religion as an evil conspiracy out to control humans by limiting progress. Other people, of the Faith, do not see the Bible (even all the versions) in such a fashion.

Saussy claims to have discovered the “facts” presented in this book during ten years on the lam from federal authorities for a crime he didn’t commit. Pretty convincing credentials for the author of an anti-U.S. conspiracy book.

A regular lawyer defense is to attack the credibility of the witness, when they cannot contradict the facts of the case or evidence presented. For example, our well known American patriot, Edward Snowden, was labeled as a traitor. Ironic that Hillary Clinton and Hussein boys would label anyone else a traitor of the USA…

Instead of investigating whether Snowden’s antics and data was valid, it is easier to make people ignore Snowden the person by focusing on perceived personal flaws.

So that people can ignore other people

Meanwhile, Hollywood and District of Columbia dominates the national discussion in such a way that it is designed that people cannot ignore them.

In such a fashion, US citizens operate by perceived free will when their entire reality, subjectively, is dominated by external manipulators. How can you be free to make choices when the information your sources are based on is filtered through gatekeepers that tell all of us which sources to look at and which sources to ignore?

That’s not a free citizen, that’s just a slave that believes they are free. Until they think themselves free, they remain slaves.