Comments on: The case of Tommy Robinson: free speech in the UK https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 30 May 2018 22:41:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Matthew M https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2388006 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:41:44 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2388006 Protecting the integrity of legal proceedings is a reasonable goal. But the trial that Tommy Robinson was reporting was at the verdict phase. What the British state is really trying to gag is anyone calling attention to the down side of muslim immigration and multiculturalism. The UK government seems to have gone full 1984. As long as this continues, Britain is not a free country any more than Poland or Czechoslovakia or East Germany were three decades ago. Political correctness has the same tyrannical effect as occupation by the USSR once did.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387996 Wed, 30 May 2018 21:28:42 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387996 No wonder we are so confused.

Robinson’s judge at the trial transcribed at this link allowed that the officials in a previous event had told him he could film at court, whereas the officials in the present case (May 2017) told him he could not, and he was in contempt for ignoring the current orders.

And then she said this:
” Moreover, notwithstanding
anything you may have been told elsewhere, at this
court you were told in clear and uncertain terms on
more than one occasion that you could not film. ”

Idiom fail by the judge or the transcriber?
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/coc-yaxley-lennon-20170522.pdf

page 10.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387935 Wed, 30 May 2018 02:08:15 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387935 Ann:

I already read that and responded. That stupid rule is part of Britain’s lack of free speech and free press—if a jury is unduly influenced by reporting, then they should sequester the jury, not gag reporting.

]]> By: Ann https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387932 Wed, 30 May 2018 01:24:49 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387932 If anyone is interested in reading it, the UK’s full Contempt of Court Act 1981 is here. It covers the whole shebang, including reporting and how it may prejudice a trial.

]]> By: Fractal Rabbit https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387925 Wed, 30 May 2018 00:24:41 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387925 Ann,

How does reporting on a trial prejudice the outcome of a trial? We manage to report on court cases every day here in the States.

Give the judge all the credence you want. I give him none at all.

]]> By: Ann https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387922 Wed, 30 May 2018 00:12:50 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387922 I give some credence to the court’s concerns about Robinson’s action perhaps prejudicing the outcome of the trial. I also agree with what this particular sentencing judge said: “Everyone understands the right to freedom of speech but there are responsibilities and obligations.”

]]> By: Fractal Rabbit https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387921 Wed, 30 May 2018 00:02:47 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387921 Ann,

They lifted the restrictions? That’s nice.

You seem to be able to scrape up some serious disapproval for our President’s tweets, but seem awfully unperturbed by the actions of the British Courts, even before the restrictions were lifted.

]]> By: om https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387915 Tue, 29 May 2018 23:07:05 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387915 “I sense there is a disturbance in the force,” or something. “Burn the witch! She turned me into a newt! …. I got better.”

I don’t know Ann and don’t often agree with her, but, oh well, who will cast the first stone?

]]> By: Barry Meislin https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387908 Tue, 29 May 2018 22:10:45 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387908 …posterity…”

Might it have spell-checked the word you typed, converting it to “prosperity”, and then possibly used an automatically implemented thesaurus (or editor) to change “prosperity” to “fortune”?

(Do they even do things like that?)

“Wise-guy phone”, I guess….

]]> By: Ann https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/28/the-case-of-tommy-robinson-free-speech-in-the-uk/#comment-2387905 Tue, 29 May 2018 21:58:17 +0000 http://www.neoneocon.com/?p=77993#comment-2387905 Those reporting restrictions have now been lifted. You can read some of what was said in court during his sentencing hearing here.

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