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		By: Erisguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/09/iran-lets-unmake-a-deal/#comment-2385540</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2018 10:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;more like resounding (although in the end ineffective) opposition&lt;/i&gt;

As fine a description of Republicans as I’ve ever seen. All talk–like Reagan’s promise to abolish the Department of Education. “Full of sound and fury’s”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>more like resounding (although in the end ineffective) opposition</i></p>
<p>As fine a description of Republicans as I’ve ever seen. All talk–like Reagan’s promise to abolish the Department of Education. “Full of sound and fury’s”</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/09/iran-lets-unmake-a-deal/#comment-2385431</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2018 00:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;this was an awful thing that would lead to war&quot;

Let&#039;s hope it leads to the kind of &quot;war&quot; we are now having with North Korea!

Seriously!  I was nearly in tears when I saw the video of the North Korean nutjob walking across the border to shake hands with the democratically elected President of South Korea.

Why isn&#039;t the MSM shouting from the rooftops about how historic such a move was?  It was by far more historic than Obama&#039;s historic dealing with Cuba?

Let&#039;s hope something just as good comes from Trump&#039;s dealings with Iran.

I won&#039;t hold my breath for them to give Trump a Nobel Peace Prize or anything; quite frankly such an award would be beneath him anyway.  The Nobel Peace prize, since they gave one to Obama, is like a &quot;participation&quot; trophy they give to all the players of T-ball.  Don&#039;t insult Trump with that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;this was an awful thing that would lead to war&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope it leads to the kind of &#8220;war&#8221; we are now having with North Korea!</p>
<p>Seriously!  I was nearly in tears when I saw the video of the North Korean nutjob walking across the border to shake hands with the democratically elected President of South Korea.</p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t the MSM shouting from the rooftops about how historic such a move was?  It was by far more historic than Obama&#8217;s historic dealing with Cuba?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope something just as good comes from Trump&#8217;s dealings with Iran.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t hold my breath for them to give Trump a Nobel Peace Prize or anything; quite frankly such an award would be beneath him anyway.  The Nobel Peace prize, since they gave one to Obama, is like a &#8220;participation&#8221; trophy they give to all the players of T-ball.  Don&#8217;t insult Trump with that!</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 19:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;HKDave Says: 
May 9th, 2018 at 5:31 pm
I have to make a confession, I am not a real conservative who believes in fair play and democracy, I have been taken over by tribalism and hatred for the left.&lt;/b&gt;

As other messengers of the Divine Counsel might counsel you with some advice: try to find some positive emotions to balance the hate, unless you want to become like VoxDay or Leftists or SJWs.

&lt;b&gt;Once you get to empire, you’ve probably quit being much of a Christian.&lt;/b&gt;

Tell that to the Catholics like Alt Right author John C Wright that is declaring a Last Crusade for all Catholic and universal christians... I don&#039;t make these decisions. I got nothing to do with this venture, so don&#039;t blame me as I wash my hands of the blood of this generation. (Pilate!!!!!!!!!!!)

As for Trum being influenced, there&#039;s a pastor named David Copeland I believe. He has these interesting spiritual charismatic church experiences... and he is part of the pastor group adivising Trum and blessing Trum and laying hands on Trum.

To pass on the &quot;spirit&quot; heheh. Want to see what kind of spirit? Look on Youtube for Copeland.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>HKDave Says:<br />
May 9th, 2018 at 5:31 pm<br />
I have to make a confession, I am not a real conservative who believes in fair play and democracy, I have been taken over by tribalism and hatred for the left.</b></p>
<p>As other messengers of the Divine Counsel might counsel you with some advice: try to find some positive emotions to balance the hate, unless you want to become like VoxDay or Leftists or SJWs.</p>
<p><b>Once you get to empire, you’ve probably quit being much of a Christian.</b></p>
<p>Tell that to the Catholics like Alt Right author John C Wright that is declaring a Last Crusade for all Catholic and universal christians&#8230; I don&#8217;t make these decisions. I got nothing to do with this venture, so don&#8217;t blame me as I wash my hands of the blood of this generation. (Pilate!!!!!!!!!!!)</p>
<p>As for Trum being influenced, there&#8217;s a pastor named David Copeland I believe. He has these interesting spiritual charismatic church experiences&#8230; and he is part of the pastor group adivising Trum and blessing Trum and laying hands on Trum.</p>
<p>To pass on the &#8220;spirit&#8221; heheh. Want to see what kind of spirit? Look on Youtube for Copeland.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lorenz Gude Says: 
May 10th, 2018 at 1:18 am
I’m not ready to go the full monte on Obama and Kerry getting money from the Iranians, but yes they are corrupt enough to do that
* * 
I think you are right about the intermingling of symbols: every international actor looks at what the others are doing, and wonders how it applies to them.  Mr. Trump is also signaling Americans about his intentions, in a much more up-front manner than we are used to.

However, I have no problem believing at least some of Obama Inc. raked off some vig in the deal, through cut-outs and laundering of some sort.
The only thing unusual about the Clintons was the blatancy of their corruption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorenz Gude Says:<br />
May 10th, 2018 at 1:18 am<br />
I’m not ready to go the full monte on Obama and Kerry getting money from the Iranians, but yes they are corrupt enough to do that<br />
* *<br />
I think you are right about the intermingling of symbols: every international actor looks at what the others are doing, and wonders how it applies to them.  Mr. Trump is also signaling Americans about his intentions, in a much more up-front manner than we are used to.</p>
<p>However, I have no problem believing at least some of Obama Inc. raked off some vig in the deal, through cut-outs and laundering of some sort.<br />
The only thing unusual about the Clintons was the blatancy of their corruption.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar Says: 
May 10th, 2018 at 3:42 am
A christian empire would be no better than a Leftist empire. All state religions eventually devolve to totalitarian powers, as the Vatican has shown quite well.
* * 
There can never (short of the Millenium!) be a Christian Empire.
Once you get to empire, you&#039;ve probably quit being much of a Christian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymar Sakar Says:<br />
May 10th, 2018 at 3:42 am<br />
A christian empire would be no better than a Leftist empire. All state religions eventually devolve to totalitarian powers, as the Vatican has shown quite well.<br />
* *<br />
There can never (short of the Millenium!) be a Christian Empire.<br />
Once you get to empire, you&#8217;ve probably quit being much of a Christian.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/09/iran-lets-unmake-a-deal/#comment-2385344</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 08:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/middle-east/iran/iran-deal-change-the-world-nukes/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/middle-east/iran/iran-deal-change-the-world-nukes/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/middle-east/iran/iran-deal-change-the-world-nukes/</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/09/iran-lets-unmake-a-deal/#comment-2385342</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 08:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Left and the MSM need to stop lying about this.&quot;

Well, yes, but that is NOT going to happen. (Why should it?)

They are so used to lying that they cannot help themselves. 

One might even say that they enjoy it; or that, for them, it&#039;s become a sacred duty---to defend the indefensible, which includes in the present case, the alliance---yes, alliance (disguised as a &quot;deal&quot;)---that the Obama administration, supported by wide swaths of the Left, has made with the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that the ONLY &quot;solution&quot; for such utter, rampant dishonesty---and perversity---is, alas, a total bust-up.

Unfortunately. For it&#039;s a terrifying sort of &quot;solution&quot;. But there you have it....

What&#039;s been going on for way too long is essentially Auden&#039;s &quot;low dishonest decade&quot; in spades.  

And one remembers the RESULT of that. How that, necessarily, HAD to end up.

(To be sure, in the present case, it&#039;s been far, far more than a mere decade.)

Prepare for a massive campaign to further impugn Trump (on a global scale) by claiming that he&#039;s been malevolently influenced by the Zionist Entity and its supporters---a foolproof strategy, at least in the eyes of those who sow those dragons teeth. 

Indeed, the campaign has already begun.

(Keeping in mind that Obama&#039;s alliance with the Mullahs was a &quot;terrific&quot; and &quot;inspired&quot; idea....)

Prepare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Left and the MSM need to stop lying about this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, yes, but that is NOT going to happen. (Why should it?)</p>
<p>They are so used to lying that they cannot help themselves. </p>
<p>One might even say that they enjoy it; or that, for them, it&#8217;s become a sacred duty&#8212;to defend the indefensible, which includes in the present case, the alliance&#8212;yes, alliance (disguised as a &#8220;deal&#8221;)&#8212;that the Obama administration, supported by wide swaths of the Left, has made with the Islamic Republic of Iran.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it seems to me that the ONLY &#8220;solution&#8221; for such utter, rampant dishonesty&#8212;and perversity&#8212;is, alas, a total bust-up.</p>
<p>Unfortunately. For it&#8217;s a terrifying sort of &#8220;solution&#8221;. But there you have it&#8230;.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s been going on for way too long is essentially Auden&#8217;s &#8220;low dishonest decade&#8221; in spades.  </p>
<p>And one remembers the RESULT of that. How that, necessarily, HAD to end up.</p>
<p>(To be sure, in the present case, it&#8217;s been far, far more than a mere decade.)</p>
<p>Prepare for a massive campaign to further impugn Trump (on a global scale) by claiming that he&#8217;s been malevolently influenced by the Zionist Entity and its supporters&#8212;a foolproof strategy, at least in the eyes of those who sow those dragons teeth. </p>
<p>Indeed, the campaign has already begun.</p>
<p>(Keeping in mind that Obama&#8217;s alliance with the Mullahs was a &#8220;terrific&#8221; and &#8220;inspired&#8221; idea&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Prepare.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 07:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A christian empire would be no better than a Leftist empire. All state religions eventually devolve to totalitarian powers, as the Vatican has shown quite well.]]></description>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 06:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;the old fool or knave question&quot;

Easy, Obama is both, bigly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the old fool or knave question&#8221;</p>
<p>Easy, Obama is both, bigly.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2018 06:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;She has more stones and integrity than Obama and Brennan combined.&quot;

Nothing against Haspel but that bar is so low it is beneath the Dead Sea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She has more stones and integrity than Obama and Brennan combined.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing against Haspel but that bar is so low it is beneath the Dead Sea.</p>
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