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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384922</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2018 03:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thinking about Trump&#039;s attempts to stop the tidal wave of illegal aliens swarming all over–basically invading and colonizing–this country, one suggestion to pay for the Wall has been to tax all the remittances that Mexicans–the vast percentage of them illegals–send back to Mexico each year.

Recent estimates for the annual amount of these remittances to Mexico have been running about $25 billion dollars each year, sucked right out of the U.S. economy, and transferred to that of Mexico, where this revenue is now Mexico&#039;s largest single source of national revenue, eclipsing even the revenue Mexico gets from it&#039;s petroleum exports.  

But that&#039;s just Mexicans.

Now comes a new estimate from PEW that the total amount of all remittances sent by immigrants–and you can bet a lot of them are illegals–back to their home countries each year is an astronomical amount, a staggering $136 billion dollars--again sucked right out of the U.S. economy, and transferred to the economies of other countries.   

Immigrants, especially illegal immigrants, are a huge net loss economically for the U.S.  

One recent estimate is that the 11 million or so illegals in the U.S. cost Federal and State governments around $136 billion each year in extra costs, while these illegals pay only an estimated $19 Billion in state and Federal taxes.  Thus, their illegal presence here in the U.S. costa us citizens and taxpayers an estimated net of $116 billion each year in extra expenses.

Now, add to that $116 billion the $136 billion in remittances.   

Thus, the actual cost to the U.S. because of illegal’s presence here in the U.S. is more like $200 or $250 billion each year. 

Can you imagine what the U.S. could do with–what benefit there could be for U.S. citizens and taxpayers–if we didn’t have to pay out that extra S200 or $250 billion dollars each year because of all the illegals here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about Trump&#8217;s attempts to stop the tidal wave of illegal aliens swarming all over–basically invading and colonizing–this country, one suggestion to pay for the Wall has been to tax all the remittances that Mexicans–the vast percentage of them illegals–send back to Mexico each year.</p>
<p>Recent estimates for the annual amount of these remittances to Mexico have been running about $25 billion dollars each year, sucked right out of the U.S. economy, and transferred to that of Mexico, where this revenue is now Mexico&#8217;s largest single source of national revenue, eclipsing even the revenue Mexico gets from it&#8217;s petroleum exports.  </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just Mexicans.</p>
<p>Now comes a new estimate from PEW that the total amount of all remittances sent by immigrants–and you can bet a lot of them are illegals–back to their home countries each year is an astronomical amount, a staggering $136 billion dollars&#8211;again sucked right out of the U.S. economy, and transferred to the economies of other countries.   </p>
<p>Immigrants, especially illegal immigrants, are a huge net loss economically for the U.S.  </p>
<p>One recent estimate is that the 11 million or so illegals in the U.S. cost Federal and State governments around $136 billion each year in extra costs, while these illegals pay only an estimated $19 Billion in state and Federal taxes.  Thus, their illegal presence here in the U.S. costa us citizens and taxpayers an estimated net of $116 billion each year in extra expenses.</p>
<p>Now, add to that $116 billion the $136 billion in remittances.   </p>
<p>Thus, the actual cost to the U.S. because of illegal’s presence here in the U.S. is more like $200 or $250 billion each year. </p>
<p>Can you imagine what the U.S. could do with–what benefit there could be for U.S. citizens and taxpayers–if we didn’t have to pay out that extra S200 or $250 billion dollars each year because of all the illegals here?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384717</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2018 16:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tuvea Says: 
May 4th, 2018 at 10:47 am
This seems to be the obverse side of “Hillary didn’t
commit a crime because there was no intent to do so” legal reasoning.
* * *
If the Left didn&#039;t have double principles, they wouldn&#039;t have any at all.  Or so I&#039;ve heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuvea Says:<br />
May 4th, 2018 at 10:47 am<br />
This seems to be the obverse side of “Hillary didn’t<br />
commit a crime because there was no intent to do so” legal reasoning.<br />
* * *<br />
If the Left didn&#8217;t have double principles, they wouldn&#8217;t have any at all.  Or so I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
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		By: Tuvea		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384710</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2018 14:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This seems to be the obverse side of &quot;Hillary &lt;strong&gt; didn&#039;t 
&lt;/strong&gt; commit a crime because there was no intent to do so&quot; legal reasoning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be the obverse side of &#8220;Hillary <strong> didn&#8217;t<br />
</strong> commit a crime because there was no intent to do so&#8221; legal reasoning.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384685</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2018 03:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/dershowitz-i-dont-want-to-live-in-police-state/

This is an epic rant.
I really wonder when Dersh will flip.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/dershowitz-i-dont-want-to-live-in-police-state/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/dershowitz-i-dont-want-to-live-in-police-state/</a></p>
<p>This is an epic rant.<br />
I really wonder when Dersh will flip.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384676</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 23:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How stupid and shortsighted the left are wanting to give more power to the unaccountable bureaucracy than the president that they have the power to vote out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How stupid and shortsighted the left are wanting to give more power to the unaccountable bureaucracy than the president that they have the power to vote out.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384670</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 22:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan, 

There&#039;s no doubt that she planned on arresting all of the &quot;deplorables and iredeemables&quot; who compose the &quot;vast right-wing conspiracy&quot; against which she has fought her entire adult life... 

The difference of course is that we on the right (even RINOs) and including Trump, do not wish to extinguish the Constitution. 

Again, at what point do we face the fact that the Left is bringing knives to our former fist fight?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan, </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that she planned on arresting all of the &#8220;deplorables and iredeemables&#8221; who compose the &#8220;vast right-wing conspiracy&#8221; against which she has fought her entire adult life&#8230; </p>
<p>The difference of course is that we on the right (even RINOs) and including Trump, do not wish to extinguish the Constitution. </p>
<p>Again, at what point do we face the fact that the Left is bringing knives to our former fist fight?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384664</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 22:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Wiki link on Thoughtcrime, the Left is well along on teaching people how to do Crimestop, especially in the Universities.

&quot;&quot;Crimestop&quot; means to rid oneself of unwanted thoughts immediately, i.e., thoughts that interfere or disagree with the ideology of the Party. This way, a person avoids committing thoughtcrime.

In the novel, we hear about crimestop through the eyes of protagonist Winston Smith:

&lt;em&gt;The mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself. The process should be automatic, instinctive. Crimestop, they called it in Newspeak.

He set to work to exercise himself in crimestop. He presented himself with propositions–&#039;the Party says the earth is flat&#039;, &#039;the party says that ice is heavier than water&#039;–and trained himself in not seeing or not understanding the arguments that contradicted them.&lt;/em&gt;

Orwell also describes crimestop from the perspective of Emmanuel Goldstein in the book The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism:

&lt;em&gt;Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.&lt;/em&gt;[5]&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Wiki link on Thoughtcrime, the Left is well along on teaching people how to do Crimestop, especially in the Universities.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Crimestop&#8221; means to rid oneself of unwanted thoughts immediately, i.e., thoughts that interfere or disagree with the ideology of the Party. This way, a person avoids committing thoughtcrime.</p>
<p>In the novel, we hear about crimestop through the eyes of protagonist Winston Smith:</p>
<p><em>The mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself. The process should be automatic, instinctive. Crimestop, they called it in Newspeak.</p>
<p>He set to work to exercise himself in crimestop. He presented himself with propositions–&#8217;the Party says the earth is flat&#8217;, &#8216;the party says that ice is heavier than water&#8217;–and trained himself in not seeing or not understanding the arguments that contradicted them.</em></p>
<p>Orwell also describes crimestop from the perspective of Emmanuel Goldstein in the book The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism:</p>
<p><em>Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.</em>[5]&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384662</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 22:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain Says: 
May 3rd, 2018 at 4:41 pm
&lt;b&gt;At what point&lt;/b&gt; would a President be obligated to declare martial law and then fire and arrest Americans both public and private who have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be a clear and present danger to the republic?
* * *
Five minutes after Hillary Clinton had won the election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain Says:<br />
May 3rd, 2018 at 4:41 pm<br />
<b>At what point</b> would a President be obligated to declare martial law and then fire and arrest Americans both public and private who have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be a clear and present danger to the republic?<br />
* * *<br />
Five minutes after Hillary Clinton had won the election.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/05/03/more-thoughtcrime/#comment-2384656</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 20:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At what point would a President be &lt;b&gt;obligated&lt;/b&gt; to declare martial law and then fire and arrest Americans both public and private who have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be a clear and present danger to the republic?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point would a President be <b>obligated</b> to declare martial law and then fire and arrest Americans both public and private who have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be a clear and present danger to the republic?</p>
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		By: steve walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 20:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the non-lawyers among the general public, of which I am one, understand this point, and it is why I suspect it was a Trump ally that leaked the questions to the public. Should Trump refuse to sit down with Mueller to be interviewed, or at minimum dictates which questions he will or will not respond to, a majority of the public will understand why and accept that action because they see the questions as inappropriate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the non-lawyers among the general public, of which I am one, understand this point, and it is why I suspect it was a Trump ally that leaked the questions to the public. Should Trump refuse to sit down with Mueller to be interviewed, or at minimum dictates which questions he will or will not respond to, a majority of the public will understand why and accept that action because they see the questions as inappropriate.</p>
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