I’m surprised you haven’t spun a yarn about the Soviet’s taking some of the Unit’s “scientists” back to work for Uncle Joe. The Soviets did try some as war criminals. Do you homework.

*Rolls eyes*

It is curious that Ymar is silent about Unit 731 and the biological and chemical weapons “work and scientific data” generated by Japan.

Pine beat me too it. 731 isn’t for girls and boys like Om, so I thought I would be merciful for once in not exposing the connections between USA self righteous nationalism and 731. Guess that didn’t work. *Shrugs* Not my fault this time.

American nationalists don’t want to be told the truth because not even love can hide the pain of understanding that loot during war doesn’t quite justify the exceptional American righteousness that was sent as propaganda to the masses.

Every nation has their own divine myths and histories which prop up the ruling elite. Japan included, Nazi Aryans included, American Manifest Destiny included. Rarely does any of it have any relationship with fact or truth.

American Baby Boomers often tell me that Japan should tell the REAL HISTORY instead of portraying japan’s nationalism in a lighter note. Well, that would make sense… if Americans actually weren’t hypocrites on that matter and covered up their own history…

National histories are an important security and morale concern for the people. If people could handle the truth, then why didn’t FDR tell people the truth. Because you can’t handle the truth. Doesn’t matter if you are Japs or Amis.

The common lot of the vast majority of humans down through the ages has been one of privation, starvation, violence, cold, illness–a short and brutal life–and of being dominated. Only the tiny fraction of the population at the top of whatever pyramid existed ever really lived a relatively good life of enough food, shelter, clothing–and sometimes riches, and had access to whatever opportunities there were.

We here in recent centuries in the West, and particularly here in the United States, are the very, very rare exceptions; we, the great mass of us, stand in the light and fresh air, stand on the backs of our hardworking, clear-eyed, tough, brave, and vigilant ancestors–they were the ones who made it possible for us to stand above the usual muck and mire, the violence, the privation, illness, short life, and domination, and we should never forget their sacrifices and their efforts.

As Ronald Reagan very wisely said, though,

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

What worries me though, is that today’s protected and cosseted, ahistorical crowd has no real clue about how special, and extraordinarily unusual and privileged we and our situation are–they think it’s always been this way, and always will be, automatically–and how we inherited our privileged positions as the result of untold past generations of hard, back-breaking work, sacrifice, courage, and vigilance.

For them, the wolf at the door is something that will never come. It’s as far away as Pluto.

They don’t have a clue about–if we don’t stand vigilant, take action, and do the things that Reagan recommended–just how fast things could come crashing down, and we’d be right back down in the “usual,” in the muck, shivering, wondering where our next meal was coming from, and who was going to maybe dole it out to us in return for our “service,” or maybe take it away from us.

One basic feature of WWII is often ignored; Germany, Japan, and Italy did not coordinate their war efforts against the Allies, it just wasn’t a matter of material and manpower overwhelming the Axis.

They say that military amateurs talk strategy and tactics, while professionals talk logistics.

Well, we drowned our enemies in the tanks and planes, warships, artillery pieces, torpedoes, rifles, bombs, and bullets the country we turned into one big 24/7 armaments factory produced, while we simultaneously denied the enemy the access to raw materials, the war resources they absolutely had to have, and systematically destroyed their factories.

Quite often the German versions of weapons were superior to ours. But, we could replace and double or triple the war materiel and armaments we lost and, eventually, they couldn’t.

As is also said, “quantity has a quality all it’s own.”

Nonetheless, a few wrong decisions here and there by us, and we could very easily have been overwhelmed, and conquered.

PAPERCLIP was not the only deal with the Devil the U.S. made at the end of WWII when, I am sure, the people in power, quite well aware of their close call, had a much different mindset and priorities than the ones we have today.

You’ve heard of the Nazi’s Dr. Mengele, how about Japan’s WWII Unit 731, and Lt. Gen. Ishii?

Unit 731 was a biological and chemical warfare experiment unit that the Japanese Emperor established by Imperial rescript in 1936, disguising it’s purpose by calling it the “Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the Kwantung Army.”

Unit 731 was headquartered in Northern Manchuria, 15 miles south of the city of Harbin, at a very secure guarded site at PingFan. The base at PingFan had a perimeter of almost four miles, an airfield, and a rail spur from Harbin, 150 buildings, and 3,000 employees, PingFan was declared a Special Military Region, and was very securely fortified and guarded.

Fragmentary records are unclear, but there was also at least one other unit, Unit 100, located 150 miles to the south at Changchun, and possibly others as well.

Unit 731 was headed by Dr. Shiro Ishii, who was eventually promoted to Lt. General, and it operated for almost 10 years, until the very end of WWII.

Unit 731 carried out their gruesome and invariably fatal experiments on humans–local Communists, Mongolians, captured Russian soldiers, the mentally handicapped, Jews, Koreans, stateless White Russians, spies, criminals, various POWs (possibly some of them Americans), passers by, anyone they could lay their hands on.

Experiments on humans reportedly not only included infection with anthrax, typhoid, and other infectious diseases but also live dissection of prisoners without anesthesia, exposing prisoners to low air pressure, freezing of prisoners, removal of limbs, blood, and organs (often without anesthesia) to see the results, exposing humans to fragmentation rounds containing infectious agents, and other experiments.

All in all, Unit 731 apparently performed much more barbaric experiments–no anesthesia used here–on many more people than the Nazi’s Mengele ever did.

How many and who did they experiment on? The estimates range from 850 to 10,000 or more. At the war’s end the Japanese Army destroyed Unit 731’s physical plant and most of it’s records, so we’re not really sure.

I say American POWS because, according to the couple of examples of Congressional testimony on this issue, the doctors from Unit 731 visited a nearby POW camp, 300 miles from Harbin at Mukden, that held 1,500 American POWs–many of them survivors of the Bataan Death March, examined and injected some of them, and after these visits some of the POWs became very ill, Ishii’s doctors carefully followed the injectees progress and, when some died, vivisected them, or took away their bodies.

Field tests of agents and delivery methods developed at Unit 731 were conducted in China, spreading diseases that killed tens of thousands of Chinese, and some claim killed hundreds of thousands, and some of the diseases Unit 731 established are now reportedly endemic to areas of China that–before Unit 731–had never had any instances of them.

It is also claimed that after Unit 731 was destroyed and some of its experimental animals were released/escaped, there arouse an epidemic that killed an estimated 30,000 Chinese living in the surrounding area.

In the final desperate days of the war, Gen. Ishii suggested to the Japanese military that they use the pathogens he had perfected, and put them on some of the 5,000 balloon bombs they were currently bombarding the West coast of the U.S. with, to start epidemics like they had apparently started in China.

Luckily, they turned that idea down.

At the end of the war the U.S. government made a deal with the leadership of Unit 731, and in return for the results of their “experiments”–I’d presume notes, slides, samples, etc.–gotten using methods we would never use–Ishii and his associates were given immunity from arrest and prosecution.

Gen. Dr. Ishii, the head of the project, went back to Japan, was awarded a government pension, and continued his “medical research” until he died.

And the other ”scientists”–many the cream of the Japanese scientific community–who ran his labs, or circulated through Unit 731’s labs over the years?

Why, they went back to Japan as well, often to distinguished careers and positions.

The ordinary soldiers who guarded and executed the experimentees if the experiments didn’t kill them outright, experimentees they referred to as maruta, or “logs”?

As of a couple of decades ago, they were still holding annual reunions in Tokyo, to reminisce about the “good old days” at Unit 731.

How come what happened at Unit 731 isn’t as well known as what happened at Auschwitz or Dachau?

Now, that’s a good question.

This brought to mind the bizarre opening ceremony of the London 2012 olympics. See the pictures in this DailyMail article

At least the dancers dressed as NHS nurses were not killing the black kids in the hospital beds. But what about the kids doing backflips on the giant hospital bed while the nurses cheered them on?

This is just weird.

I shudder to think that a total takeover of the medical system is in our future. Here in California all the leading Democrat candidates for Governor and many in the legislature vow to implement “Medicare for all.” This nearly passed last year but for the Democrat leader of the Assembly who had a sane moment when no one could figure out where the $400 billion per year tab would come from. This is not deterring the current crop of candidates.

Do you actually think the British would have let this play out the same way? Fat chance.

All Evans was was just another worthless white male. Doing anything to help him would just reinforce England as slaves to the “patriarchy” and “white privilege”.

It is curious that Ymar is silent about Unit 731 and the biological and chemical weapons “work and scientific data” generated by Japan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
allthatsinteresting.com/unit-731 and others….

He has been pushing his paperclip for months now.