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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/27/pro-trump-vs-never-trump-blogging/#comment-2430713</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://thebulwark.com/no-honorable-middle-ground-for-barr/

&lt;i&gt;The Bulwark&lt;/i&gt; is now recruiting contributors off of &lt;i&gt;The Huffington Post&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
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<p><i>The Bulwark</i> is now recruiting contributors off of <i>The Huffington Post</i></p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/27/pro-trump-vs-never-trump-blogging/#comment-2384290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You aren&#039;t snarky, and you are well informed without being didactic, or seeming unctuous.

Snark is for insecure attention whores; and is morally bad as well. There will probably be a level in Hades called Snark Hell where waspish souls are condemned to eternally sit in a circle screaming &quot;Listen to me!&quot; at each other as they compete to deliver the most mordant and cutting jibes ... with no one listening, no one caring, and everyone talking at once.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren&#8217;t snarky, and you are well informed without being didactic, or seeming unctuous.</p>
<p>Snark is for insecure attention whores; and is morally bad as well. There will probably be a level in Hades called Snark Hell where waspish souls are condemned to eternally sit in a circle screaming &#8220;Listen to me!&#8221; at each other as they compete to deliver the most mordant and cutting jibes &#8230; with no one listening, no one caring, and everyone talking at once.</p>
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		By: CBI		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/27/pro-trump-vs-never-trump-blogging/#comment-2384268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CBI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Other Chuck Says:
April 27th, 2018 at 11:28 pm
&lt;cite&gt;The King James version says it best:
“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” &lt;/cite&gt;

Other is mis-applying the scriptures.  Making a choice among imperfect-to-horrible candidates for a political position is much different than being ashamed of the Lord and His mission of saving people. 

As near as I can tell from my reading of history, the most recent  President under our current constitution who embodied all of the characteristics desired by Other was the one prior to George Washington.  (And he probably had hidden faults.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Other Chuck Says:<br />
April 27th, 2018 at 11:28 pm<br />
<cite>The King James version says it best:<br />
“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” </cite></p>
<p>Other is mis-applying the scriptures.  Making a choice among imperfect-to-horrible candidates for a political position is much different than being ashamed of the Lord and His mission of saving people. </p>
<p>As near as I can tell from my reading of history, the most recent  President under our current constitution who embodied all of the characteristics desired by Other was the one prior to George Washington.  (And he probably had hidden faults.)</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/27/pro-trump-vs-never-trump-blogging/#comment-2384261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 07:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The Other Chuck Says: 
April 27th, 2018 at 11:28 pm&lt;/i&gt; 

The King James version says it best:
“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” 

I think Winston Churchill had a more apropos comment:

&quot;If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Other Chuck Says:<br />
April 27th, 2018 at 11:28 pm</i> </p>
<p>The King James version says it best:<br />
“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” </p>
<p>I think Winston Churchill had a more apropos comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.&#8221;</p>
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		By: CBI		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/27/pro-trump-vs-never-trump-blogging/#comment-2384254</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CBI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve disagreed with Ms. Neo many times. However, I could never dismiss her.  Like with AesopFan, she, Powerline, and Instapundit are my &lt;em&gt;sine qua non&lt;/em&gt; daily reads.  (I probably should add LegalInsurrection and Diplomad to my list, but not sure if I&#039;ve time.)  

My main problem with Neoneocon.com:  her quasi-anonymity.  I have a (very) few thinking left-leaning people I at times discuss things with, one with a national presence.  Unless I could say &quot;political commentator J.. who blogs as Neoneocon&quot; (along with some bio stuff), I can&#039;t use her as a source with them.  Small price to pay, I know.

Neo:  thank you for your blogging efforts.  You are a bright star in the dark internet cacophony.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve disagreed with Ms. Neo many times. However, I could never dismiss her.  Like with AesopFan, she, Powerline, and Instapundit are my <em>sine qua non</em> daily reads.  (I probably should add LegalInsurrection and Diplomad to my list, but not sure if I&#8217;ve time.)  </p>
<p>My main problem with Neoneocon.com:  her quasi-anonymity.  I have a (very) few thinking left-leaning people I at times discuss things with, one with a national presence.  Unless I could say &#8220;political commentator J.. who blogs as Neoneocon&#8221; (along with some bio stuff), I can&#8217;t use her as a source with them.  Small price to pay, I know.</p>
<p>Neo:  thank you for your blogging efforts.  You are a bright star in the dark internet cacophony.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a pretty good rundown of why Trump HAD to be stopped.

And of why Trump HAS to be stopped.

And the actors who tried to stop him:
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/here-are-three-scary-fbi-scandal-factors-you-must-know/

It makes one wonder whether this Comey book/book tour/interview circuit brouhaha is merely a distraction and a feint meant to take people&#039;s eyes off the ball.

Why would someone in Comey&#039;s position break FBI protocol (and probably the law) and tell such obvious howlers? 

Could it be anything else but that he is falling on his sword to protect he who absolutely must be protected? 

He who must be protected at all cost?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a pretty good rundown of why Trump HAD to be stopped.</p>
<p>And of why Trump HAS to be stopped.</p>
<p>And the actors who tried to stop him:<br />
<a href="https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/here-are-three-scary-fbi-scandal-factors-you-must-know/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/here-are-three-scary-fbi-scandal-factors-you-must-know/</a></p>
<p>It makes one wonder whether this Comey book/book tour/interview circuit brouhaha is merely a distraction and a feint meant to take people&#8217;s eyes off the ball.</p>
<p>Why would someone in Comey&#8217;s position break FBI protocol (and probably the law) and tell such obvious howlers? </p>
<p>Could it be anything else but that he is falling on his sword to protect he who absolutely must be protected? </p>
<p>He who must be protected at all cost?</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/27/pro-trump-vs-never-trump-blogging/#comment-2384209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkUoAQC0arw

Here&#039;s some rabbis that are good to listen to.
https://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2017/11/13/hebrews-recognizing-yeshua-and-suffering-setbacks-as-a-result/]]></description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s some rabbis that are good to listen to.<br />
<a href="https://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2017/11/13/hebrews-recognizing-yeshua-and-suffering-setbacks-as-a-result/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2017/11/13/hebrews-recognizing-yeshua-and-suffering-setbacks-as-a-result/</a></p>
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		By: Tom G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 11:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I gladly gladly voted Trump - with open eyes about his personal adulterous and vicious revenge characteristics - because I was a Never-Hillary.

I still think Trump / Sessions should find a prosecutor to indict Hillary and go thru a trial about her email crimes (it&#039;s NOT too late!).  She had her personal server to illegally avoid Freedom of Info Act requests (illegal); she illegally used her non-gov&#039;t server for classified gov&#039;t  material.


Trump-hate comes from a long line that includes Romney hate (he&#039;s Hitler! He hates dogs! -- the most honest &#038; competent person who&#039;s a national politician), Sarah Palin hate, GW Bush-hate (chimp-Hitler), Reagan-hate, Nixon -hate (II), Goldwater-hate, and Nixon-hate (I) vs the adulterous JFK.

Cruz, Fiorina, Scott Walker (not my choice, but Neo&#039;s) all would have faced more Rep-hate after 8 years of institutional rot and anti-normal elite contempt under Obama.  None would take the media/ academy/ elite hate as well as Trump; tho the others wouldn&#039;t also have the GOPe as strongly against them (Cruz certainly is no GOPe favorite).

The K-12 anti-Christian gov&#039;t schools are perverting America, and the anti-Freedom universities, so complicit and comfy with socialism, are dominating the culture too much with negative pushing.

Neo has always been healthily critical, even better than when a commenter on Michael Totten&#039;s blog 15 years ago.  I always read her (tho only watch about half the ballet) (glad she loves it and has it), and sometimes the comments and even make some.

DiploMad before was pretty anti-Rep in foreign policy; now he says he&#039;s anti-Political Correctness.  I&#039;ll check him out.

Where would the pro-life folk vote?  Never-Hillary.  Mostly.  See Rod Dreher (talks too much, tho) for the best anti-Trump AND anti-PC civilization.  Recently on Shania Twain:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/shania-twain-our-bs-woke-culture/ 

A commenter told him:
&lt;i&gt;that people within the firm are afraid not to appear insufficiently progressive to others. “It’s like living in ‘Invasion of the Bodysnatchers,&#039;” he wrote. You don’t know if what people said they believed yesterday is what they believe today – or if what they say they believe today is what they really believe, or if they’re just too scared to indicate otherwise.
&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, the PC-nags are Bodysnatchers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gladly gladly voted Trump &#8211; with open eyes about his personal adulterous and vicious revenge characteristics &#8211; because I was a Never-Hillary.</p>
<p>I still think Trump / Sessions should find a prosecutor to indict Hillary and go thru a trial about her email crimes (it&#8217;s NOT too late!).  She had her personal server to illegally avoid Freedom of Info Act requests (illegal); she illegally used her non-gov&#8217;t server for classified gov&#8217;t  material.</p>
<p>Trump-hate comes from a long line that includes Romney hate (he&#8217;s Hitler! He hates dogs! &#8212; the most honest &amp; competent person who&#8217;s a national politician), Sarah Palin hate, GW Bush-hate (chimp-Hitler), Reagan-hate, Nixon -hate (II), Goldwater-hate, and Nixon-hate (I) vs the adulterous JFK.</p>
<p>Cruz, Fiorina, Scott Walker (not my choice, but Neo&#8217;s) all would have faced more Rep-hate after 8 years of institutional rot and anti-normal elite contempt under Obama.  None would take the media/ academy/ elite hate as well as Trump; tho the others wouldn&#8217;t also have the GOPe as strongly against them (Cruz certainly is no GOPe favorite).</p>
<p>The K-12 anti-Christian gov&#8217;t schools are perverting America, and the anti-Freedom universities, so complicit and comfy with socialism, are dominating the culture too much with negative pushing.</p>
<p>Neo has always been healthily critical, even better than when a commenter on Michael Totten&#8217;s blog 15 years ago.  I always read her (tho only watch about half the ballet) (glad she loves it and has it), and sometimes the comments and even make some.</p>
<p>DiploMad before was pretty anti-Rep in foreign policy; now he says he&#8217;s anti-Political Correctness.  I&#8217;ll check him out.</p>
<p>Where would the pro-life folk vote?  Never-Hillary.  Mostly.  See Rod Dreher (talks too much, tho) for the best anti-Trump AND anti-PC civilization.  Recently on Shania Twain:<br />
<a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/shania-twain-our-bs-woke-culture/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/shania-twain-our-bs-woke-culture/</a> </p>
<p>A commenter told him:<br />
<i>that people within the firm are afraid not to appear insufficiently progressive to others. “It’s like living in ‘Invasion of the Bodysnatchers,&#8217;” he wrote. You don’t know if what people said they believed yesterday is what they believe today – or if what they say they believe today is what they really believe, or if they’re just too scared to indicate otherwise.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Yes, the PC-nags are Bodysnatchers.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 05:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, you are open-minded- far too many of RedState&#039;s writers aren&#039;t when it comes to Trump.  They deleted my ability to comment at some point in 2016, and so I removed them from my bookmarks, and my &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; sin was that I thought Trump was showing the Republican Party how to win the presidency again by reaching a bit over the center line to draw in voters that really should not be identifying as Democrats, and said so on more than a couple of occasions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, you are open-minded- far too many of RedState&#8217;s writers aren&#8217;t when it comes to Trump.  They deleted my ability to comment at some point in 2016, and so I removed them from my bookmarks, and my <i>only</i> sin was that I thought Trump was showing the Republican Party how to win the presidency again by reaching a bit over the center line to draw in voters that really should not be identifying as Democrats, and said so on more than a couple of occasions.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2018 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K Says: 
April 28th, 2018 at 9:58 am
I think the NeverTrumpers that remain are one of three types.

* * 
I also have had to quit reading Patterico, which is a shame because he had many valuable insights on legal issues and politics.  Kind of reminds me of what happened with the Little Green Footballs guy.

Art Deco Says: 
April 28th, 2018 at 12:36 pm
It helps to have multiple sources. Our problem is that our institutions all seem dominated by people with a similar cultural outlook. 
* * *
Not to mention the prominence of young, ignorant (in almost every sense of the word) commenters - who do not deserve to be called pundits, as that implies some level of acquired wisdom, or at least knowledge about their subjects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K Says:<br />
April 28th, 2018 at 9:58 am<br />
I think the NeverTrumpers that remain are one of three types.</p>
<p>* *<br />
I also have had to quit reading Patterico, which is a shame because he had many valuable insights on legal issues and politics.  Kind of reminds me of what happened with the Little Green Footballs guy.</p>
<p>Art Deco Says:<br />
April 28th, 2018 at 12:36 pm<br />
It helps to have multiple sources. Our problem is that our institutions all seem dominated by people with a similar cultural outlook.<br />
* * *<br />
Not to mention the prominence of young, ignorant (in almost every sense of the word) commenters &#8211; who do not deserve to be called pundits, as that implies some level of acquired wisdom, or at least knowledge about their subjects.</p>
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