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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383910</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 03:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[English comprehension is not your strong suit.  Heal yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>English comprehension is not your strong suit.  Heal yourself.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s good that you don&#039;t care. Perhaps you can stop trolling now.

As for brain damage or comas or permanent veggie states, I am not responsible for those standards. The current thing was produced by Doctor Classes given power by the Western authorities. I am neither in a Doctor Class nor part of the Western authorities. I wash my hands of the consequences, as a result.

If humans want to progress further in medical science, they&#039;re going to have to go outside the box even if it means the Doctor Classes belittle them and ridicule them. It&#039;s your health on the line, not mine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good that you don&#8217;t care. Perhaps you can stop trolling now.</p>
<p>As for brain damage or comas or permanent veggie states, I am not responsible for those standards. The current thing was produced by Doctor Classes given power by the Western authorities. I am neither in a Doctor Class nor part of the Western authorities. I wash my hands of the consequences, as a result.</p>
<p>If humans want to progress further in medical science, they&#8217;re going to have to go outside the box even if it means the Doctor Classes belittle them and ridicule them. It&#8217;s your health on the line, not mine.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383808</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the formal medical &#039;tests&#039; for vegetative state are very primitive and written in the 70s... 

It is another ideological thing imo. Certain usual suspects with their love of experts... and wanting authority over life and death given to them and gov... over others...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the formal medical &#8216;tests&#8217; for vegetative state are very primitive and written in the 70s&#8230; </p>
<p>It is another ideological thing imo. Certain usual suspects with their love of experts&#8230; and wanting authority over life and death given to them and gov&#8230; over others&#8230;</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383785</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is that old joke about LSD and LDS and you can look.  I don&#039;t care what you have taken or take, nor do I care where you live or have lived.  You do seem to have a &quot;thing&quot; about Catholics. Spin that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is that old joke about LSD and LDS and you can look.  I don&#8217;t care what you have taken or take, nor do I care where you live or have lived.  You do seem to have a &#8220;thing&#8221; about Catholics. Spin that one.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383765</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is not the same. That is due to misinterpretation of the analogy. Much as Jesus used parables to speak to the ignorant or illiterate, scholars are forced to rotate down their concepts so that most people can comprehend it without lengthy technical discussions.

Also, I never did LSD in Utah or Salt Lake. I was never there. That&#039;s a pretty weird accusation though.

The problem with people who don&#039;t understand the science attacking the messenger is that no matter whether the messenger is right or wrong, you still won&#039;t get the science.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not the same. That is due to misinterpretation of the analogy. Much as Jesus used parables to speak to the ignorant or illiterate, scholars are forced to rotate down their concepts so that most people can comprehend it without lengthy technical discussions.</p>
<p>Also, I never did LSD in Utah or Salt Lake. I was never there. That&#8217;s a pretty weird accusation though.</p>
<p>The problem with people who don&#8217;t understand the science attacking the messenger is that no matter whether the messenger is right or wrong, you still won&#8217;t get the science.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383745</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leave it to a non-Catholic to inform us all about Catholic theology.  Shesh.  

When living in Salt Lake City I was told that the LDS really had a hatred for the Catholic church. Maybe not all LDS but one seems to have a hate going.

And now we learn all about neuroscience and how electronics engineering and software is the same as biology.  Who knew?  Does he?  Nope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to a non-Catholic to inform us all about Catholic theology.  Shesh.  </p>
<p>When living in Salt Lake City I was told that the LDS really had a hatred for the Catholic church. Maybe not all LDS but one seems to have a hate going.</p>
<p>And now we learn all about neuroscience and how electronics engineering and software is the same as biology.  Who knew?  Does he?  Nope.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 17:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The obsolete and classical interpretation of brain wave is that the consciousness originates from the biological gray matter of the brain. Thus when the biology is damaged, it is like smashing a computer apart. It doesn&#039;t start up again.

Quantum neuroscience has a somewhat different take on the nature of consciousness and what the brain is for.

An easy way to look at it is to check the internet connection on your computer. When it is working, turn off your wi fi router. Immediately your browser stops working and getting data. This might be due to a hardware problem on your computer, but for now it is because you turned off the source of your data bandwidth signals.

A person that suffers brain damage has suffered a break in his wifi connection as well as hardware damage to his setup. The body has a limited amount of recovery abilities, but this is limited by the DNA or data bandwidth it has. The cells are not &quot;intelligent&quot; thus it doesn&#039;t know how to utilize its resources the best. A computer can be rebooted via a signal from the wireless router. People call it remote administration or hijacking the root core. 

Even if the data on a hard drive is hopelessly corrupted, the wireless source can reboot the computer and send enough data to reconstruct the boot up process and fix certain issues. If the hard drive is corrupt, reformatting can bypass the damaged sectors. 

https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/remote-shutdown-command/

The brain and consciousness works in a similar fashion based upon Quantum neuroscience findings and research. The brain is the receiver of the data, but the consciousness is somewhere else sending the data via an invisible conduit: wi fi.

Thus when a computer gets to the point where you can&#039;t restart it, so long as it still has a connection to the wifi, the Source of the consciousness can send enough data to the computer so that the hard drive regenerates itself. Thus making a full or partial &quot;recovery&quot; as doctors might call it.

In other words, patients under permanent comatose are computers that are frozen and need a restart to fix itself. Doctors have tried electricity shocks and other methods to restart the consciousness: didn&#039;t work. The data sequence must be sent from the Source and it is very highly encrypted (much like DNA), with the right sequence of data and commands necessary to reboot and fix the body.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obsolete and classical interpretation of brain wave is that the consciousness originates from the biological gray matter of the brain. Thus when the biology is damaged, it is like smashing a computer apart. It doesn&#8217;t start up again.</p>
<p>Quantum neuroscience has a somewhat different take on the nature of consciousness and what the brain is for.</p>
<p>An easy way to look at it is to check the internet connection on your computer. When it is working, turn off your wi fi router. Immediately your browser stops working and getting data. This might be due to a hardware problem on your computer, but for now it is because you turned off the source of your data bandwidth signals.</p>
<p>A person that suffers brain damage has suffered a break in his wifi connection as well as hardware damage to his setup. The body has a limited amount of recovery abilities, but this is limited by the DNA or data bandwidth it has. The cells are not &#8220;intelligent&#8221; thus it doesn&#8217;t know how to utilize its resources the best. A computer can be rebooted via a signal from the wireless router. People call it remote administration or hijacking the root core. </p>
<p>Even if the data on a hard drive is hopelessly corrupted, the wireless source can reboot the computer and send enough data to reconstruct the boot up process and fix certain issues. If the hard drive is corrupt, reformatting can bypass the damaged sectors. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/remote-shutdown-command/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/remote-shutdown-command/</a></p>
<p>The brain and consciousness works in a similar fashion based upon Quantum neuroscience findings and research. The brain is the receiver of the data, but the consciousness is somewhere else sending the data via an invisible conduit: wi fi.</p>
<p>Thus when a computer gets to the point where you can&#8217;t restart it, so long as it still has a connection to the wifi, the Source of the consciousness can send enough data to the computer so that the hard drive regenerates itself. Thus making a full or partial &#8220;recovery&#8221; as doctors might call it.</p>
<p>In other words, patients under permanent comatose are computers that are frozen and need a restart to fix itself. Doctors have tried electricity shocks and other methods to restart the consciousness: didn&#8217;t work. The data sequence must be sent from the Source and it is very highly encrypted (much like DNA), with the right sequence of data and commands necessary to reboot and fix the body.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383723</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In situations where the life of the mother and baby are both threatened, Catholic doctors run on the doctrine that doing anything in this situation, such as trying to save the mother or the baby, is beyond basic care. Thus the doctor should let nature run its course and let both the mother and baby die.

Vatican teachings, apart from the Jesuits and Dominican factions, are better than secular eugenics, but it is not the best approach.

&lt;b&gt;In point of fact, no one makes a “full” recovery from massive brain injury. Which is not a cost-benefit excuse to kill (“euthanize”) them to “end their suffering”.
&lt;/b&gt;

Frog is stepping outside of his field here and thus inaccuracies pop up.

http://www.ldsliving.com/LDS-Scouting-and-Young-Men-Leader-Survives-Rafting-Accident/s/82921/

10 minutes without oxygen means the brain is suffering significant damage. This ain&#039;t even comatose, this is no oxygen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In situations where the life of the mother and baby are both threatened, Catholic doctors run on the doctrine that doing anything in this situation, such as trying to save the mother or the baby, is beyond basic care. Thus the doctor should let nature run its course and let both the mother and baby die.</p>
<p>Vatican teachings, apart from the Jesuits and Dominican factions, are better than secular eugenics, but it is not the best approach.</p>
<p><b>In point of fact, no one makes a “full” recovery from massive brain injury. Which is not a cost-benefit excuse to kill (“euthanize”) them to “end their suffering”.<br />
</b></p>
<p>Frog is stepping outside of his field here and thus inaccuracies pop up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ldsliving.com/LDS-Scouting-and-Young-Men-Leader-Survives-Rafting-Accident/s/82921/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ldsliving.com/LDS-Scouting-and-Young-Men-Leader-Survives-Rafting-Accident/s/82921/</a></p>
<p>10 minutes without oxygen means the brain is suffering significant damage. This ain&#8217;t even comatose, this is no oxygen.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383625</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Catholic Church places the highest value on human life.  The moral requirement, according to Catholic teaching, is that we can never deprive someone of ordinary care, not extraordinary, but ordinary care.  In other words, it is seen as morally acceptable to &quot;pull the plug&quot; in terms of removing things like artificial respiration, when all other options have been exhausted.

However, it is never acceptable to withdraw basic food and water, which is what happened to Terry Schiavo.  No human can survive without food and water, therefore it is considered &quot;ordinary care&quot;, and no one can be licitly deprived of ordinary care.  The Catholic view on this is consistent with the Hippocratic Oath (is that still a thing?)... first, do no harm.

I think Catholic teaching shows us best how to approach these tough situations which have only become recently relevant due to technology or increased scientific understanding.  Nothing can provide easy answers to tough situations, but if you are approaching the situation from a sound and solid moral basis, you&#039;re going to be able to come up consistent and logical options.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic Church places the highest value on human life.  The moral requirement, according to Catholic teaching, is that we can never deprive someone of ordinary care, not extraordinary, but ordinary care.  In other words, it is seen as morally acceptable to &#8220;pull the plug&#8221; in terms of removing things like artificial respiration, when all other options have been exhausted.</p>
<p>However, it is never acceptable to withdraw basic food and water, which is what happened to Terry Schiavo.  No human can survive without food and water, therefore it is considered &#8220;ordinary care&#8221;, and no one can be licitly deprived of ordinary care.  The Catholic view on this is consistent with the Hippocratic Oath (is that still a thing?)&#8230; first, do no harm.</p>
<p>I think Catholic teaching shows us best how to approach these tough situations which have only become recently relevant due to technology or increased scientific understanding.  Nothing can provide easy answers to tough situations, but if you are approaching the situation from a sound and solid moral basis, you&#8217;re going to be able to come up consistent and logical options.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/21/not-quite-brain-dead/#comment-2383624</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As always, the liberals have a solution:  Let&#039;s starve them to death, even though it certainly results, in at least some cases, of grueling torture that could last for weeks.  In these instances, I am always reminded of Terry Schiavo, and of her fate.  Of course, the worst villain in that situation was her husband, but nevertheless, we will continue to see this result, especially as we progress towards socialized medicine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, the liberals have a solution:  Let&#8217;s starve them to death, even though it certainly results, in at least some cases, of grueling torture that could last for weeks.  In these instances, I am always reminded of Terry Schiavo, and of her fate.  Of course, the worst villain in that situation was her husband, but nevertheless, we will continue to see this result, especially as we progress towards socialized medicine.</p>
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