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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s some good news. Both the USA (Deep State plus NSA plus FBI) and China (Commie state police), do not have enough experts to analyze all the data. Or even half the meta data.

That is why it remains stored in some deep server farm. They pull it out only when you get red flagged for something or other on the radar. For example, Trum gets red flagged so his associations get brought up and exploited.

You, on every day social media, aren&#039;t red flagged yet. There are not enough experts to analyze all your data and meta data, until we get quantum AIs with CERN.

So all we have to do is to nuke the server farms... heh. You know, like how HRC and IRS deleted all their data on their hard drives using magnets and reformat software. It works for them, why not us?

Oh right, because they&#039;ll make it ILLEGAL to do so, of course. I forgot that human livestock needed to Obey or Else. Wait for the next piece of Gospel Good News...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some good news. Both the USA (Deep State plus NSA plus FBI) and China (Commie state police), do not have enough experts to analyze all the data. Or even half the meta data.</p>
<p>That is why it remains stored in some deep server farm. They pull it out only when you get red flagged for something or other on the radar. For example, Trum gets red flagged so his associations get brought up and exploited.</p>
<p>You, on every day social media, aren&#8217;t red flagged yet. There are not enough experts to analyze all your data and meta data, until we get quantum AIs with CERN.</p>
<p>So all we have to do is to nuke the server farms&#8230; heh. You know, like how HRC and IRS deleted all their data on their hard drives using magnets and reformat software. It works for them, why not us?</p>
<p>Oh right, because they&#8217;ll make it ILLEGAL to do so, of course. I forgot that human livestock needed to Obey or Else. Wait for the next piece of Gospel Good News&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mueller definitely has overlords and is merely a disposable stalking horse, but the overlords aren&#039;t necessarily who people think they are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mueller definitely has overlords and is merely a disposable stalking horse, but the overlords aren&#8217;t necessarily who people think they are.</p>
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		By: DEEBEE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DEEBEE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Think Mueller has nothing. He wants to stop, but his overlords have asked him to goad Trump to fire him, so that they have more fodder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Mueller has nothing. He wants to stop, but his overlords have asked him to goad Trump to fire him, so that they have more fodder.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381389</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar Says: 
April 11th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Here’s something your link didn’t tell you, Aesop, I would guess.

...
People have been datamining humans for awhile now. We got all sorts of low level, mid level, and high level techniques.
* * *
Thanks - very interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymar Sakar Says:<br />
April 11th, 2018 at 5:43 pm<br />
Here’s something your link didn’t tell you, Aesop, I would guess.</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
People have been datamining humans for awhile now. We got all sorts of low level, mid level, and high level techniques.<br />
* * *<br />
Thanks &#8211; very interesting.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381383</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maintaining OPSEC over the years has been somewhat tiring, especially during the military campaigns that we argued about after 2001.

Now a days I&#039;ve lessened the security protocols or maybe got more used to it.

I always thought humans would pick up a lot of the hints and clues I left behind online... apparently I was overthinking things, as people would forget what I and they wrote 3 years later, let alone 5-10 years later...

But they are still data archived, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maintaining OPSEC over the years has been somewhat tiring, especially during the military campaigns that we argued about after 2001.</p>
<p>Now a days I&#8217;ve lessened the security protocols or maybe got more used to it.</p>
<p>I always thought humans would pick up a lot of the hints and clues I left behind online&#8230; apparently I was overthinking things, as people would forget what I and they wrote 3 years later, let alone 5-10 years later&#8230;</p>
<p>But they are still data archived, of course.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s something your link didn&#039;t tell you, Aesop, I would guess.

A person&#039;s digital and personality signature can be derived from a sample of their writing.

For example, give me a few paragraphs and I can tell whether user A online is the same as user B or D. This is textual analysis.

People have been datamining humans for awhile now. We got all sorts of low level, mid level, and high level techniques.

In order to find a HVT, a high value target like Saddam Hussein, a similar method is used to find your high school crushes, sweet hearts, and classmates online.

First you do a name search, then go through their family and friends, then view their portraits to correlate, and then read details about their profile to see if it is the same person you knew in high school. Once you verify it through numerous channels, drop the Jdam or Drone assassin. Case closed America.

Facebook, is a neat service where the American people give the government a kill list on any dissidents that could ever exist, free of charge and voluntarily. Ain&#039;t it great? We don&#039;t even need a police state. We got you guys to report on your neighbors, friends, lovers, nieces, and nephews without a single interrogation or coercive movement.

THAT is the power beyond an Iron Fist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s something your link didn&#8217;t tell you, Aesop, I would guess.</p>
<p>A person&#8217;s digital and personality signature can be derived from a sample of their writing.</p>
<p>For example, give me a few paragraphs and I can tell whether user A online is the same as user B or D. This is textual analysis.</p>
<p>People have been datamining humans for awhile now. We got all sorts of low level, mid level, and high level techniques.</p>
<p>In order to find a HVT, a high value target like Saddam Hussein, a similar method is used to find your high school crushes, sweet hearts, and classmates online.</p>
<p>First you do a name search, then go through their family and friends, then view their portraits to correlate, and then read details about their profile to see if it is the same person you knew in high school. Once you verify it through numerous channels, drop the Jdam or Drone assassin. Case closed America.</p>
<p>Facebook, is a neat service where the American people give the government a kill list on any dissidents that could ever exist, free of charge and voluntarily. Ain&#8217;t it great? We don&#8217;t even need a police state. We got you guys to report on your neighbors, friends, lovers, nieces, and nephews without a single interrogation or coercive movement.</p>
<p>THAT is the power beyond an Iron Fist.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381379</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;AesopFan Says: 
April 11th, 2018 at 11:42 am
&lt;/b&gt;

Are people only figuring out how open source data mining works?

The US SPecial Forces were doing this even before 2000, and even I knew about it around 2001.

What takes people so long to wake up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>AesopFan Says:<br />
April 11th, 2018 at 11:42 am<br />
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<p>Are people only figuring out how open source data mining works?</p>
<p>The US SPecial Forces were doing this even before 2000, and even I knew about it around 2001.</p>
<p>What takes people so long to wake up?</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fact that they couldn&#039;t get a jury to convict Sen. Edwards on even one count of a campaign funding law violation shows that the government&#039;s interpretation of the statute has far overreached what the public thinks is appropriate.

The purpose of the statute was to prevent improper &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;campaign&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; contributions -- excessive, foreign, corporate, concealed, etc.  The idea that any gift, loan, or whatever to a politician, for a reason not related to the campaign, is a campaign finance violation  -- presumably on the theory that money is fungible and that money for a personal purpose (for example, paying the candidate&#039;s  floozie to shut up) allows him to spend more money on campaign expenses -- is just a bridge too far for most people.

I would say a motion to quash the warrant, suppress the evidence, and dismiss any charges -- if any are ever filed (notice they don&#039;t have to be) -- would be in order.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that they couldn&#8217;t get a jury to convict Sen. Edwards on even one count of a campaign funding law violation shows that the government&#8217;s interpretation of the statute has far overreached what the public thinks is appropriate.</p>
<p>The purpose of the statute was to prevent improper <i><b>campaign</b></i> contributions &#8212; excessive, foreign, corporate, concealed, etc.  The idea that any gift, loan, or whatever to a politician, for a reason not related to the campaign, is a campaign finance violation  &#8212; presumably on the theory that money is fungible and that money for a personal purpose (for example, paying the candidate&#8217;s  floozie to shut up) allows him to spend more money on campaign expenses &#8212; is just a bridge too far for most people.</p>
<p>I would say a motion to quash the warrant, suppress the evidence, and dismiss any charges &#8212; if any are ever filed (notice they don&#8217;t have to be) &#8212; would be in order.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/04/10/obamas-illegal-campaign-contributions-vs-trumps/#comment-2381362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those Russian investors in Facebook have been there a long time.

https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/26/facebook-takes-that-200-million-investment-from-the-russians-at-a-10-billion-valuation/

&quot;Facebook is taking that rumored $200 million investment from Digital Sky Technologies, a Russian investment group. DST will take a 1.96 percent stake in the company, giving Facebook  a $10 billion valuation. Facebook ultimately did not have to give up a board seat to DST in return for the cash. But DST is getting preferred shares for it’s $200 million.&quot;

* * 
This isn&#039;t the one I quoted before, but it has an interesting twist -- Facebook colluding with Trump?
Note that the headline is a very slick mis-statement of the lede graf.  They make the word &quot;through&quot; imply something that isn&#039;t actually the case.

Fake news.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor

&lt;b&gt;Russia funded Facebook and Twitter investments through Kushner investor&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;Institutions with close links to Kremlin financed stakes through investor in Trump son-in-law’s venture, leaked files reveal&quot;

by Jon Swaine and Luke Harding

&quot;Two Russian state institutions with close ties to Vladimir Putin funded substantial stakes in Twitter and Facebook through an investor &lt;b&gt;who later acquired an interest &lt;/b&gt;in a Jared Kushner venture, leaked documents reveal.

The investments were made through a Russian technology magnate, Yuri Milner, who also holds a stake in a company co-owned by Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and senior White House adviser.

The discovery is likely to stir concerns over Russian influence in US politics and the role played by social media in last year’s presidential election. It may also raise new questions for the social media companies and for Kushner.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those Russian investors in Facebook have been there a long time.</p>
<p><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/26/facebook-takes-that-200-million-investment-from-the-russians-at-a-10-billion-valuation/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/26/facebook-takes-that-200-million-investment-from-the-russians-at-a-10-billion-valuation/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Facebook is taking that rumored $200 million investment from Digital Sky Technologies, a Russian investment group. DST will take a 1.96 percent stake in the company, giving Facebook  a $10 billion valuation. Facebook ultimately did not have to give up a board seat to DST in return for the cash. But DST is getting preferred shares for it’s $200 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>* *<br />
This isn&#8217;t the one I quoted before, but it has an interesting twist &#8212; Facebook colluding with Trump?<br />
Note that the headline is a very slick mis-statement of the lede graf.  They make the word &#8220;through&#8221; imply something that isn&#8217;t actually the case.</p>
<p>Fake news.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor</a></p>
<p><b>Russia funded Facebook and Twitter investments through Kushner investor</b></p>
<p>&#8220;Institutions with close links to Kremlin financed stakes through investor in Trump son-in-law’s venture, leaked files reveal&#8221;</p>
<p>by Jon Swaine and Luke Harding</p>
<p>&#8220;Two Russian state institutions with close ties to Vladimir Putin funded substantial stakes in Twitter and Facebook through an investor <b>who later acquired an interest </b>in a Jared Kushner venture, leaked documents reveal.</p>
<p>The investments were made through a Russian technology magnate, Yuri Milner, who also holds a stake in a company co-owned by Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and senior White House adviser.</p>
<p>The discovery is likely to stir concerns over Russian influence in US politics and the role played by social media in last year’s presidential election. It may also raise new questions for the social media companies and for Kushner.&#8221;</p>
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		By: kevino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: Thanks for writing this. I forgot about these donations. I would also point out that Facebook donated access to their data. That very valuable, and it is certainly a campaign donation.

RE: &quot;Is the $130,000 in hush money Donald Trump’s personal lawyer paid to porn star Stormy Daniels on the eve of the 2016 election a campaign-finance violation?&quot;
(1) If President Trump didn&#039;t know about it, then I can&#039;t see how it is criminal.
(2) If Trump did know, did he pay for it or tell Cohen that he&#039;d compensate him?
(2a) If yes, then it&#039;s a very minor violation of reporting regulations.
(2b) If no, then it&#039;s a donation and a crime. But it&#039;s highly unlikely; it&#039;s very hard to prove; it&#039;s a minor issue; and the whole matter is well outside Mueller&#039;s purview.

All of these issues were clearly shown in Sen. Edwards&#039; trial, where his staff raised money from big donors to hide his sexual relationship with his videographer. He was put on trial, but never convicted.

This is a fishing expedition by Mueller to get something on Cohen, something he&#039;s not even supposed to be investigating, in the hope that he can turn Cohen against Trump. Just as he did to Fllynn and Manafort.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: Thanks for writing this. I forgot about these donations. I would also point out that Facebook donated access to their data. That very valuable, and it is certainly a campaign donation.</p>
<p>RE: &#8220;Is the $130,000 in hush money Donald Trump’s personal lawyer paid to porn star Stormy Daniels on the eve of the 2016 election a campaign-finance violation?&#8221;<br />
(1) If President Trump didn&#8217;t know about it, then I can&#8217;t see how it is criminal.<br />
(2) If Trump did know, did he pay for it or tell Cohen that he&#8217;d compensate him?<br />
(2a) If yes, then it&#8217;s a very minor violation of reporting regulations.<br />
(2b) If no, then it&#8217;s a donation and a crime. But it&#8217;s highly unlikely; it&#8217;s very hard to prove; it&#8217;s a minor issue; and the whole matter is well outside Mueller&#8217;s purview.</p>
<p>All of these issues were clearly shown in Sen. Edwards&#8217; trial, where his staff raised money from big donors to hide his sexual relationship with his videographer. He was put on trial, but never convicted.</p>
<p>This is a fishing expedition by Mueller to get something on Cohen, something he&#8217;s not even supposed to be investigating, in the hope that he can turn Cohen against Trump. Just as he did to Fllynn and Manafort.</p>
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