Comments on: Weighing in on the Kevin Williamson firing

By: om

om — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 03:39:36 +0000

Still full of it. Carry on. Tell us more about the disk world and what is under Antarctica. What a wealth of “knowledge.”

By: Ymar Sakar

Ymar Sakar — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 03:14:40 +0000

Apparently a soul has more evidence for it from primary witnesses and sources reporting direct experience of near death and after death experiences than humans have of a direct core or mantle sample.

The core of the Earth in geoscience might as well be a god for all the evidence people think they have. But I’m sure dogma that requires faith still satisfies people. No wonder.

By: om

om — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 19:30:07 +0000

Geophysics isn’t about finding a soul or deciding wheher abortion should be considered murder. Nor are “most” fields of science. The back and forth between Geoffrey and me concerned the concept that science (a tool of inquiry) has limitations.

But that’s just me, I don’t have a brain the size of a planet. Do I have to draw a picture for “johnny come lately?”

By: Ymar Sakar

Ymar Sakar — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 15:22:47 +0000

https://www.biblica.com/bible/niv/leviticus/20/

Americans might want to stop acting like the 10 commandments is in their law. It is not.

1The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molek is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him. 3 I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 4 If the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molek and if they fail to put him to death, 5 I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek.

6 “‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.

7 “‘Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God. 8 Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy.

9 “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

11 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his father’s wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

12 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

14 “‘If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.

15 “‘If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he is to be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

16 “‘If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

17 “‘If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.

18 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

19 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible.

If people want to obey the Law of Moses… well, they are already in transgression and should look up the penalties and curses for that first.

By: Ymar Sakar

Ymar Sakar — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 15:12:37 +0000

Frog Says:
April 7th, 2018 at 11:39 pm
Today is quite the day: The predictably sensible Geoffrey Britain has become unhinged.
He requires “science” to prove the creation of a soul at the moment of conception.

Frog, known predictably for criticizing the masses for being uneducated in medicine since Frog is a medical doctor of some experience, is now criticizing other people for using science…

Can you conservatives and humans not try to act like the Leftist alliance at this rate? Because this rate is too high even if I had predicted it myself.

Richard Saunders Says:
April 8th, 2018 at 4:31 am
Geoffrey B – for one person to force his opinion on others is fascistic; for the majority to force its views on those who disagree is democratic.

The tyranny of the majority is why the Founding Fathers didn’t like a democracy. Democracies just lead to oligarchies which lead to dictatorships.

By: Ymar Sakar

Ymar Sakar — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 15:07:39 +0000

om Says:
April 7th, 2018 at 5:53 pm
What’s science go to do
got to do with it?
What’s science
but a second hand opinion?

I find that rather peculiar, since OM was on the bandwagon that geoscience was right and I was wrong.

What’s science got to do with it other than it being a second hand opinion indeed…

As for GB’s view, I find it ironic that people here are reacting in the way they do.

I believe that Williamson’s position is not in line with Divine Law or the Divine Counsel. People can’t really argue with that (first they need to understand it to argue against it).

Thus this concurs with GB’s view that Williamson type laws on abortion are unwise or fascism based. I wouldn’t call Williamson a fascist, although he seems to be veering towards that kind of extreme for his own life profit. I would call it a human law that lacks the jurisdiction over Divine Law.

By: thomass

thomass — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 01:13:35 +0000

neo-neocon Says:

“In other words, the Atlantic didn’t just fire Williamson for having an opinion, even a controversial opinion. They fired him for having that particular one.”

Ok; but the tipping point is low and one sided. We were not thinking about firing them for supporting murder of the unborn… but maybe we should. Or anyone who supports using deadly force to seize private guns. They have a lot of opinions along these lines but we haven’t thought about using them to exclude them from public life…

By: Ann

Ann — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 21:36:56 +0000

I don’t agree that Jeffrey Goldberg set out “to paint all of us with the same brush” in his hiring of Williamson. In reading him over the years before he became editor of The Atlantic, I usually found him trying to be fair, liberal of course, but fair. I think he’s still striving for that; right now, for example, the lead article on its website is “The Terrible Cost of Obama’s Failure in Syria”.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 21:23:05 +0000

Liberty Wolf:

That’s a pretty succinct statement of my beliefs on this, as well.

By: Liberty Wolf

Liberty Wolf — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 21:13:28 +0000

The Atlantic certainly has the right to fire him, and I can understand them doing so, but they should have known Williamson was not exactly staid or even civil. I mean, many of his opinions offended conservatives who are nearly traditionalist. The attack on the white working class is one example. He should never have been hired in the first place I think if Goldberg was going to be this touchy. I find Williamson’s take on abortion and capital punishment wrong and shocking but that’s the kind of writer he is. Not sure why Goldberg wanted to play in the Kevin Williamson trough at all, if he didn’t want the edge that came with it.

Maybe they did want a conservative that was often patently offensive in order to paint all of us with the same brush. If so, they succeeded to some degree since all my left wing friends are howling about this on FB and fail to see the difference between this sort of opinion and a mainstream conservative opinion.

Kevin Williamson is a very good writer and while his views are often appalling, he’s a good read. I’ll say that in his favor, even if I disagree violently with some of his characterizations and ideas.