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		By: Mike O'Malley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike O'Malley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based upon a quick look at the study I think I can offer several observations:
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* The measure of &quot;household income&quot; fails to capture income of unmarried co-habitating partners, child support payments, the fair value of non-taxable gov&#039;t support to single mothers, unreported tips and other under-the-table cash income not ordinarily reported on Form 1040 among other sources of income.
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* The definition on &quot;father present&quot; does not differentiate between married stepfather and married biological father.  Multiple parent fertility is unaddressed.  The surveyed years span too short of a period of time to measure whether or not a married father is present in the family from a dependent child&#039;s infancy to age 16 or 18.
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* It is unclear to me whether the measures of racism in a neighborhood actually measures &quot;white&quot; racism which appears to be assumed.  It is interesting that the prospects of &quot;white&quot; boys in &lt;i&gt;high racism&lt;/i&gt; environments lag as do &quot;black&quot; boys in such neighbors.  Perhaps these measures capture instead cultural signals arising from reactions to dysfunctional underclass behaviors.  Perhaps neighbors populated by traditional families are less racist?
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A few years ago Zero Hedge published a study demonstrating the a single mother with two dependent children often &quot;earns&quot; an income including the unreported value of government benefits that approximates the taxed income of approximately $74k-$75k of a married working couple with two dependents.
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It appears to be established facts that children do substantially less well in step-parenting families and boys do less well in the absence of their biological fathers and in multiple partner family situations.
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One might also ask, why would or should an unmarried &quot;black&quot; male work hard if the benefits of his hard work (to be reported on Form 1040) are so often forcibly taken from him to support women and children who are no longer in his life?  Such a situation would seem to be more likely in our &quot;black&quot; communities than in our communities where more traditional families are present.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based upon a quick look at the study I think I can offer several observations:<br />
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* The measure of &#8220;household income&#8221; fails to capture income of unmarried co-habitating partners, child support payments, the fair value of non-taxable gov&#8217;t support to single mothers, unreported tips and other under-the-table cash income not ordinarily reported on Form 1040 among other sources of income.<br />
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* The definition on &#8220;father present&#8221; does not differentiate between married stepfather and married biological father.  Multiple parent fertility is unaddressed.  The surveyed years span too short of a period of time to measure whether or not a married father is present in the family from a dependent child&#8217;s infancy to age 16 or 18.<br />
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* It is unclear to me whether the measures of racism in a neighborhood actually measures &#8220;white&#8221; racism which appears to be assumed.  It is interesting that the prospects of &#8220;white&#8221; boys in <i>high racism</i> environments lag as do &#8220;black&#8221; boys in such neighbors.  Perhaps these measures capture instead cultural signals arising from reactions to dysfunctional underclass behaviors.  Perhaps neighbors populated by traditional families are less racist?<br />
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A few years ago Zero Hedge published a study demonstrating the a single mother with two dependent children often &#8220;earns&#8221; an income including the unreported value of government benefits that approximates the taxed income of approximately $74k-$75k of a married working couple with two dependents.<br />
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It appears to be established facts that children do substantially less well in step-parenting families and boys do less well in the absence of their biological fathers and in multiple partner family situations.<br />
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One might also ask, why would or should an unmarried &#8220;black&#8221; male work hard if the benefits of his hard work (to be reported on Form 1040) are so often forcibly taken from him to support women and children who are no longer in his life?  Such a situation would seem to be more likely in our &#8220;black&#8221; communities than in our communities where more traditional families are present.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Go into any store where &quot;blacks&quot; and &quot;whites&quot; are present with their children.  In an hour of observation you will learn all you need to know about which children will succeed and which won&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go into any store where &#8220;blacks&#8221; and &#8220;whites&#8221; are present with their children.  In an hour of observation you will learn all you need to know about which children will succeed and which won&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Ever try using Notepad ++?&lt;/b&gt;

I copy/pasted MS Word and Notepad into Discus. Notepad lines up well. Thanks for the suggestion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ever try using Notepad ++?</b></p>
<p>I copy/pasted MS Word and Notepad into Discus. Notepad lines up well. Thanks for the suggestion.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; But then you have to spend some time getting the lines to work. You can copy/paste into practically anything except Disqus and not have to bother with getting lines aligned. But with Discqus, you do.&lt;/b&gt;

Ever try using Notepad ++?

It has certain line adjustment features that people use for coding purposes, which works well copy/pasted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> But then you have to spend some time getting the lines to work. You can copy/paste into practically anything except Disqus and not have to bother with getting lines aligned. But with Discqus, you do.</b></p>
<p>Ever try using Notepad ++?</p>
<p>It has certain line adjustment features that people use for coding purposes, which works well copy/pasted.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I can’t stand Disqus. It often fails to load properly, which is very annoying.&lt;/b&gt;

Disqus only fails to load when I have brave blocking a website&#039;s java script and other scripts.

&lt;b&gt;As has been said, “once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.”

&lt;/b&gt;

Google Blade runner type Silicon Valley elites don&#039;t like snow. It&#039;s too White for them.

You can try using a virtual private network or VPN, that is free, to change your router address.

Disqus usually links to social media as a token login, thus those accounts are combined. So the problems might not be whatever you wrote on Disqus, but because the SIlicon Valley network has flagged your other stuff and behavior.

That&#039;s why I tell people on social media not to do certain things. This ain&#039;t the free net of the 90s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I can’t stand Disqus. It often fails to load properly, which is very annoying.</b></p>
<p>Disqus only fails to load when I have brave blocking a website&#8217;s java script and other scripts.</p>
<p><b>As has been said, “once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.”</p>
<p></b></p>
<p>Google Blade runner type Silicon Valley elites don&#8217;t like snow. It&#8217;s too White for them.</p>
<p>You can try using a virtual private network or VPN, that is free, to change your router address.</p>
<p>Disqus usually links to social media as a token login, thus those accounts are combined. So the problems might not be whatever you wrote on Disqus, but because the SIlicon Valley network has flagged your other stuff and behavior.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I tell people on social media not to do certain things. This ain&#8217;t the free net of the 90s.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 03:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My experience with Disqus is that the following can lead to getting a comment flagged: too much time spent in writing comments, more than one link, a lot of HTML such as blockquotes, a relatively long comment.

Another thing which is CERTAIN to flag a comment is too many edits: two or more edits- or even sometimes one- will get it flagged. Unfortunately, you cannot preview before you post in Disqus, as you can w Neo.

Disqus is set up for short, pity comments. If your comment is too scholarly or pedantic- too many links or blockquote- it will get flagged. Or if you spend too much time writing it.


What really tees me off is Instapundit&#039;s &quot;Your comment has been flagged as spam. We&#039;re working on it.&quot; No, they &lt;b&gt;NEVER&lt;/b&gt; work on it.

Several times I have been able to communicate w blog owners regarding Disqus flagging my comments.  One reply was, &quot;I have no idea why you got flagged. You made a good comment.&quot; Another reply was, &quot;I get VERY frustrated w Disqus myself.&quot; 

Sometimes I can get a flagged comment through by cleaning it up- not as much HTML or links. Also get it written elsewhere so I merely copy/paste onto Disqus. But then you have to spend some time getting the lines to work. You can copy/paste into practically anything except Disqus and not have to bother with getting lines aligned. But with Discqus, you do.

The Atlantic flagged a Disqus comment I made for using two links. I reposted without links: flagged. I tried another comment,a short two-liner elsewhere in the comments. It appeared that I got banned. Recently, The Atlantic informed us it is no longer accepting comments. Breaks me up.

My comments have not been stopped for ideological content, as I very seldom comment at lefty blogs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with Disqus is that the following can lead to getting a comment flagged: too much time spent in writing comments, more than one link, a lot of HTML such as blockquotes, a relatively long comment.</p>
<p>Another thing which is CERTAIN to flag a comment is too many edits: two or more edits- or even sometimes one- will get it flagged. Unfortunately, you cannot preview before you post in Disqus, as you can w Neo.</p>
<p>Disqus is set up for short, pity comments. If your comment is too scholarly or pedantic- too many links or blockquote- it will get flagged. Or if you spend too much time writing it.</p>
<p>What really tees me off is Instapundit&#8217;s &#8220;Your comment has been flagged as spam. We&#8217;re working on it.&#8221; No, they <b>NEVER</b> work on it.</p>
<p>Several times I have been able to communicate w blog owners regarding Disqus flagging my comments.  One reply was, &#8220;I have no idea why you got flagged. You made a good comment.&#8221; Another reply was, &#8220;I get VERY frustrated w Disqus myself.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sometimes I can get a flagged comment through by cleaning it up- not as much HTML or links. Also get it written elsewhere so I merely copy/paste onto Disqus. But then you have to spend some time getting the lines to work. You can copy/paste into practically anything except Disqus and not have to bother with getting lines aligned. But with Discqus, you do.</p>
<p>The Atlantic flagged a Disqus comment I made for using two links. I reposted without links: flagged. I tried another comment,a short two-liner elsewhere in the comments. It appeared that I got banned. Recently, The Atlantic informed us it is no longer accepting comments. Breaks me up.</p>
<p>My comments have not been stopped for ideological content, as I very seldom comment at lefty blogs.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 00:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine: I take your points. Those sound like classic jerk-around moves. Someone up the chain made a decision.

I once demolished Rick Ross at his cult site in a few comments. After that my login stopped working.

Guess I&#039;ll stick with not signing up with Disqus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine: I take your points. Those sound like classic jerk-around moves. Someone up the chain made a decision.</p>
<p>I once demolished Rick Ross at his cult site in a few comments. After that my login stopped working.</p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;ll stick with not signing up with Disqus.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley--Looking for answers, Disqus does recommend that I &quot;contact the moderators&quot; of the sites that are flagging me.  

Well, it&#039;s been very hard to find any link that I can click on to communicate with these moderators, and the times that I have done so have resulted in exactly no return responses.

Disqus advises on it&#039;s website that, if your comment is erroneously flagged as spam, just click on the line next to that comment that says, &quot;This is not spam.&quot; and everything will be hunky dory. 

Unfortunately, I have never seen any such line next to any of the multitude of my comments that have a red spam flag next to them. 

Moreover, a few days ago I asked the question on Disqus&#039; own &quot;Admin&quot; website of just who has the power to flag something as spam. This question of mine was apparently extremely impertinent, because it was immediately replaced by a red &quot;Removed&quot; flag.  

So, you can see why I might think that immediately flagging 95 % of my many comments over the last two months or so as &quot;spam,&quot; and immediately removing them from view, might not just be  a glitch in the system, not be a bug, but be a feature of Disqus, a deliberate action.

As has been said, &quot;once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley&#8211;Looking for answers, Disqus does recommend that I &#8220;contact the moderators&#8221; of the sites that are flagging me.  </p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s been very hard to find any link that I can click on to communicate with these moderators, and the times that I have done so have resulted in exactly no return responses.</p>
<p>Disqus advises on it&#8217;s website that, if your comment is erroneously flagged as spam, just click on the line next to that comment that says, &#8220;This is not spam.&#8221; and everything will be hunky dory. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have never seen any such line next to any of the multitude of my comments that have a red spam flag next to them. </p>
<p>Moreover, a few days ago I asked the question on Disqus&#8217; own &#8220;Admin&#8221; website of just who has the power to flag something as spam. This question of mine was apparently extremely impertinent, because it was immediately replaced by a red &#8220;Removed&#8221; flag.  </p>
<p>So, you can see why I might think that immediately flagging 95 % of my many comments over the last two months or so as &#8220;spam,&#8221; and immediately removing them from view, might not just be  a glitch in the system, not be a bug, but be a feature of Disqus, a deliberate action.</p>
<p>As has been said, &#8220;once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.&#8221;</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379539</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One point that is rarely mentioned is how these single moms raise their boys. When I walk into stores here in Germany, I see displays of Hello Kitty, Frozen, and princess stuff. I imagine this is what the moms are attracted to. Where is the boy stuff? I&#039;ve seen videos of moms braiding their daughter&#039;s hair. Do they spend time teaching their sons how to build or fix things? I doubt it. 

Kids need to learn self control. and one way this can be done is by recognizing their accomplishments and letting them know that their help in running the household is important. It takes quite a while, and it is not the same as today&#039;s self esteem. Girls and young mothers have to be taught how to mother boys. Even if there is not a dad at home, you can look for coaches, Boys Clubs, Scouts, etc. where men are available as mentors. 

People spend too much time analyzing the problems of men and teens. The real solutions will start with 2 and 3 year olds and how they are raised. Think of Ben Carson&#039;s mother who made him read books and the librarian who recommended the book on rocks, which made him the rock identifier in his friendship group. His accomplishments were recognized.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point that is rarely mentioned is how these single moms raise their boys. When I walk into stores here in Germany, I see displays of Hello Kitty, Frozen, and princess stuff. I imagine this is what the moms are attracted to. Where is the boy stuff? I&#8217;ve seen videos of moms braiding their daughter&#8217;s hair. Do they spend time teaching their sons how to build or fix things? I doubt it. </p>
<p>Kids need to learn self control. and one way this can be done is by recognizing their accomplishments and letting them know that their help in running the household is important. It takes quite a while, and it is not the same as today&#8217;s self esteem. Girls and young mothers have to be taught how to mother boys. Even if there is not a dad at home, you can look for coaches, Boys Clubs, Scouts, etc. where men are available as mentors. </p>
<p>People spend too much time analyzing the problems of men and teens. The real solutions will start with 2 and 3 year olds and how they are raised. Think of Ben Carson&#8217;s mother who made him read books and the librarian who recommended the book on rocks, which made him the rock identifier in his friendship group. His accomplishments were recognized.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/31/on-blacks-whites-income-and-families/#comment-2379535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 15:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine: I&#039;ve thought about signing on to Disqus for years now but never pulled the trigger because of privacy concerns. 

Lately I&#039;ve read claims like yours about censorship and not known where to land. Some say Disqus just gives tools to site owners so they may moderate as they see fit -- censoring comments, banning or shadow-banning participants. (Shadow-banning is where you can see your comments but no one else does.) 

So behavior as you describe would be the responsibility of the websites, not Disqus.

OTOH, we&#039;ve lately seen how untrustworthy and partisan these big centralized sites and services are. I wouldn&#039;t put it past Disqus to put the kibosh on you.

I do believe the disappearing comment sections in sites like &quot;The Atlantiic&quot; and &quot;The Daily Beast&quot; are primarily efforts to censor conservatives, who all too often would demolish liberal talking-point articles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine: I&#8217;ve thought about signing on to Disqus for years now but never pulled the trigger because of privacy concerns. </p>
<p>Lately I&#8217;ve read claims like yours about censorship and not known where to land. Some say Disqus just gives tools to site owners so they may moderate as they see fit &#8212; censoring comments, banning or shadow-banning participants. (Shadow-banning is where you can see your comments but no one else does.) </p>
<p>So behavior as you describe would be the responsibility of the websites, not Disqus.</p>
<p>OTOH, we&#8217;ve lately seen how untrustworthy and partisan these big centralized sites and services are. I wouldn&#8217;t put it past Disqus to put the kibosh on you.</p>
<p>I do believe the disappearing comment sections in sites like &#8220;The Atlantiic&#8221; and &#8220;The Daily Beast&#8221; are primarily efforts to censor conservatives, who all too often would demolish liberal talking-point articles.</p>
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