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		By: Doug Purdie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Purdie]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder, did the same problem occur when we humans started using paper to augment our memories?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, did the same problem occur when we humans started using paper to augment our memories?</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Thank you Putin.&lt;/i&gt;

Nahhhh, &quot;Thank you, anti-American liberal twits, at home and abroad.&quot;

Put the blame where it belongs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Thank you Putin.</i></p>
<p>Nahhhh, &#8220;Thank you, anti-American liberal twits, at home and abroad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Put the blame where it belongs.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 06:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Woman (shouting): &lt;i&gt;&quot;I&#039;ll bet you haven&#039;t heard a word I&#039;ve said!!!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Man: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Well, that&#039;s a pretty obnoxious way to start a conversation!!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Woman (shouting): <i>&#8220;I&#8217;ll bet you haven&#8217;t heard a word I&#8217;ve said!!!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Man: <i>&#8220;Well, that&#8217;s a pretty obnoxious way to start a conversation!!&#8221;</i></b></p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie near Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re tech in general and calculators, so-called &quot;smart&quot;-phones, GPS, and computers in general, surely they have positive sides.  

Still, Everything has a downsideâ„¢.  

I worry about exactly the same issues that Neo brings up.  In fact, Neo, you grabbed my attention right off the bat with your first sentence:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;In particular, they are making it less likely we will pay close attention in the first place.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised.  It would explain a lot of misapprehensions that seem to occur here at home, as well as the apparent inability for offices to keep their records straight and for the various staff to communicate with one another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re tech in general and calculators, so-called &#8220;smart&#8221;-phones, GPS, and computers in general, surely they have positive sides.  </p>
<p>Still, Everything has a downsideâ„¢.  </p>
<p>I worry about exactly the same issues that Neo brings up.  In fact, Neo, you grabbed my attention right off the bat with your first sentence:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In particular, they are making it less likely we will pay close attention in the first place.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised.  It would explain a lot of misapprehensions that seem to occur here at home, as well as the apparent inability for offices to keep their records straight and for the various staff to communicate with one another.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan Says: 
March 30th, 2018 at 11:28 pm
blert Says:
March 30th, 2018 at 9:07 pm

I best not start on the whole Satanic Ritual Child abuse thing, because there&#039;s so much data it would go on and on here.

As for memory manipulation, I started studying that in 2007. Of course i wasn&#039;t stupid enough to come right out and say that was what I was doing, since people claiming to research &quot;mind control&quot; stuff about the Leftist alliance in 2007 wasn&#039;t treated quite well.

Apparently my persona was so consistent online that people who knew my writing in 2007, said they never figured it out in 2016. They just thought I was being frivolous researching Neuro Linguistic Programming for Pick up Artists...

Hah, what a conclusion, researching NLP to pick up girls. That&#039;s very funny. No, no, I research things to learn how to kill mortals, not to pick up girls. Probably also something that is best kept well hidden back in 2007.

Mind control in psychological warfare is very effective utilizing Sun Tzu&#039;s doctrines and concepts of deception in warfare. Why kill your enemy when you can delude Othello into killing your target and then just tell them him the truth so he can kill himself. Romeo and Juliet would be excellent Byzantine politics if somebody had manipulated them into doing so. Then it wouldn&#039;t be a tragedy, it would be a Sun Tzu grand masterpiece of operational security and psych warfare.

This is how you kill people, after one has obtained a certain level of mastery or proficiency in hand to hand arts.

Okay, so the fruits of my work in mind control was my own personal defensive measure and firewall. Can&#039;t attack if you can&#039;t defend yourself first after all.

I learned how to create memory backups and to use adrenaline and other triggers to create data backups to check my memory. That way distortion or alteration of memory and emotions could be detected and then cleansed via virtual simulated operating systems inside my actual operating system of underlying premises and beliefs.

In short, I learned how to think in parallel qubits (quantum processing units). Which, conveniently, had a lot of basis on learning a foreign language and thinking in it. Because a foreign language is a &quot;new OS&quot; installation, which I used to check my old OS which was hopelessly ridden with trojans, viruses, and back door root hacks the Leftist alliance and others had put in without my realizing it. (Kids, don&#039;t sit in front of the idiot indoctrination box like I did)

Every year I started pulling out masses of mind control tentacles and purging my system. Now a days my OS is pretty clear, but only because I run multiple operating system installs parallel and they all are told to check up on each other in case a virus infiltrates through my firewall. The Gnostic Gospels were pretty powerful, I don&#039;t know exactly who created them, but they are quite potent.

For the past few years, the Holy Ghost has upgraded my capabilities, and I have started throwing out 50% of what I know to be true, every year. The gains are phenomenon, even for my up to 8 cores of parallel qubit thought lines. Very unstable since things are overheating, but that&#039;s okay. Things will overheat if the frame is stressed.

One of the reasons why the Enlightenment philosophers became smart or polymaths was because of the number of languages they had to learn and use, since many of the things they wanted to study had no translations. This required them to not only speak Greek but to learn how the ancient Greeks thought, because if they didn&#039;t do that, they couldn&#039;t understand the context of various medical texts.

This was their first creation of a separate and parallel OS installation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan Says:<br />
March 30th, 2018 at 11:28 pm<br />
blert Says:<br />
March 30th, 2018 at 9:07 pm</p>
<p>I best not start on the whole Satanic Ritual Child abuse thing, because there&#8217;s so much data it would go on and on here.</p>
<p>As for memory manipulation, I started studying that in 2007. Of course i wasn&#8217;t stupid enough to come right out and say that was what I was doing, since people claiming to research &#8220;mind control&#8221; stuff about the Leftist alliance in 2007 wasn&#8217;t treated quite well.</p>
<p>Apparently my persona was so consistent online that people who knew my writing in 2007, said they never figured it out in 2016. They just thought I was being frivolous researching Neuro Linguistic Programming for Pick up Artists&#8230;</p>
<p>Hah, what a conclusion, researching NLP to pick up girls. That&#8217;s very funny. No, no, I research things to learn how to kill mortals, not to pick up girls. Probably also something that is best kept well hidden back in 2007.</p>
<p>Mind control in psychological warfare is very effective utilizing Sun Tzu&#8217;s doctrines and concepts of deception in warfare. Why kill your enemy when you can delude Othello into killing your target and then just tell them him the truth so he can kill himself. Romeo and Juliet would be excellent Byzantine politics if somebody had manipulated them into doing so. Then it wouldn&#8217;t be a tragedy, it would be a Sun Tzu grand masterpiece of operational security and psych warfare.</p>
<p>This is how you kill people, after one has obtained a certain level of mastery or proficiency in hand to hand arts.</p>
<p>Okay, so the fruits of my work in mind control was my own personal defensive measure and firewall. Can&#8217;t attack if you can&#8217;t defend yourself first after all.</p>
<p>I learned how to create memory backups and to use adrenaline and other triggers to create data backups to check my memory. That way distortion or alteration of memory and emotions could be detected and then cleansed via virtual simulated operating systems inside my actual operating system of underlying premises and beliefs.</p>
<p>In short, I learned how to think in parallel qubits (quantum processing units). Which, conveniently, had a lot of basis on learning a foreign language and thinking in it. Because a foreign language is a &#8220;new OS&#8221; installation, which I used to check my old OS which was hopelessly ridden with trojans, viruses, and back door root hacks the Leftist alliance and others had put in without my realizing it. (Kids, don&#8217;t sit in front of the idiot indoctrination box like I did)</p>
<p>Every year I started pulling out masses of mind control tentacles and purging my system. Now a days my OS is pretty clear, but only because I run multiple operating system installs parallel and they all are told to check up on each other in case a virus infiltrates through my firewall. The Gnostic Gospels were pretty powerful, I don&#8217;t know exactly who created them, but they are quite potent.</p>
<p>For the past few years, the Holy Ghost has upgraded my capabilities, and I have started throwing out 50% of what I know to be true, every year. The gains are phenomenon, even for my up to 8 cores of parallel qubit thought lines. Very unstable since things are overheating, but that&#8217;s okay. Things will overheat if the frame is stressed.</p>
<p>One of the reasons why the Enlightenment philosophers became smart or polymaths was because of the number of languages they had to learn and use, since many of the things they wanted to study had no translations. This required them to not only speak Greek but to learn how the ancient Greeks thought, because if they didn&#8217;t do that, they couldn&#8217;t understand the context of various medical texts.</p>
<p>This was their first creation of a separate and parallel OS installation.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;However, we presumeably wouldn’t know about it if Socrates disciple Plato wouldn’t have written about it in his dialogue Phaedrus around 370 BC.&lt;/b&gt;

Socrates was pointing out that writing is a telephone game. It&#039;s not an internet social media thread.

For example, let&#039;s take this question. Why do you believe the Earth is a globe?

In Socrates&#039; day, that question would utilize many writings, but it would not get to the heart of the problem. That is because many things have to be tested, peer reviewed, probed, and QUESTIONED.

And people now a days don&#039;t question much of anything. So even though they read something in writing, they cannot understand it. It&#039;s a telephone game. They heard from someone who heard from someone that the earth was x. That&#039;s all the reason they have for belief now a days.

An elementary or junior high kid asked me &quot;Do you believe the Earth is on the back of a turtle&quot;.

I had to think about that for a minute or two. If I said I believed in X, what reasons and justifications did I have to believe in it? That is the Socratic method. 

Then he said that pictures from space was A. I doubt that for a moment and asked if he had been in space and seen it for himself. He of course said no, and believed in the authorities of the world.

I eventually told him the story of the telephone game and asked him if he used that in class. And he understood it.

In epistemology, to ascertain the truth of things, 2 or more independent sources should be used as primary sources to verify the authenticity of a claim or statement.

The statement &quot;I believe in X, because people in the world said X is true&quot; is not a valid source.

The statement &quot;I believe Socrates was X because Plato wrote about it in Y&quot; is not a valid source. Writings can be changed and misinterpreted, even more so for the bible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>However, we presumeably wouldn’t know about it if Socrates disciple Plato wouldn’t have written about it in his dialogue Phaedrus around 370 BC.</b></p>
<p>Socrates was pointing out that writing is a telephone game. It&#8217;s not an internet social media thread.</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s take this question. Why do you believe the Earth is a globe?</p>
<p>In Socrates&#8217; day, that question would utilize many writings, but it would not get to the heart of the problem. That is because many things have to be tested, peer reviewed, probed, and QUESTIONED.</p>
<p>And people now a days don&#8217;t question much of anything. So even though they read something in writing, they cannot understand it. It&#8217;s a telephone game. They heard from someone who heard from someone that the earth was x. That&#8217;s all the reason they have for belief now a days.</p>
<p>An elementary or junior high kid asked me &#8220;Do you believe the Earth is on the back of a turtle&#8221;.</p>
<p>I had to think about that for a minute or two. If I said I believed in X, what reasons and justifications did I have to believe in it? That is the Socratic method. </p>
<p>Then he said that pictures from space was A. I doubt that for a moment and asked if he had been in space and seen it for himself. He of course said no, and believed in the authorities of the world.</p>
<p>I eventually told him the story of the telephone game and asked him if he used that in class. And he understood it.</p>
<p>In epistemology, to ascertain the truth of things, 2 or more independent sources should be used as primary sources to verify the authenticity of a claim or statement.</p>
<p>The statement &#8220;I believe in X, because people in the world said X is true&#8221; is not a valid source.</p>
<p>The statement &#8220;I believe Socrates was X because Plato wrote about it in Y&#8221; is not a valid source. Writings can be changed and misinterpreted, even more so for the bible.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Latter Day Saints and Amish keep a significant amount of written journals and records for the family line.

Even I&#039;ve lately started writing down my dreams and visions, since I often forget about them a day later.

Socrates would have hated that we all accept Kepler, Newton, Einstein, and Copernicus without any questioning of the wisdom of the so called wise. Socrates himself was not interested in passing down some kind of sophia he himself obtained from his muse, but in getting people, including his student Plato, to question if something was what it said it was.

Plato ended up with the Platonic Ideal vs Shadows on the cave, otherwise known today as the Matrix. Today, people say this reality is a simulation not because they are copying Plato but because of quantum mechanics. Plato bridged more than 2000 years of human history because he had a teacher like Socrates, and obeyed the teachings of QUESTION EVERYTHING.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Latter Day Saints and Amish keep a significant amount of written journals and records for the family line.</p>
<p>Even I&#8217;ve lately started writing down my dreams and visions, since I often forget about them a day later.</p>
<p>Socrates would have hated that we all accept Kepler, Newton, Einstein, and Copernicus without any questioning of the wisdom of the so called wise. Socrates himself was not interested in passing down some kind of sophia he himself obtained from his muse, but in getting people, including his student Plato, to question if something was what it said it was.</p>
<p>Plato ended up with the Platonic Ideal vs Shadows on the cave, otherwise known today as the Matrix. Today, people say this reality is a simulation not because they are copying Plato but because of quantum mechanics. Plato bridged more than 2000 years of human history because he had a teacher like Socrates, and obeyed the teachings of QUESTION EVERYTHING.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[zat Says: 
March 31st, 2018 at 8:09 am
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The article you linked was quite interesting, and had this delightful comment:
http://wondermark.com/socrates-vs-writing/#comment-396820615

&quot;Of course, what Socrates is really saying is that books are no good because they don&#039;t have comment threads...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zat Says:<br />
March 31st, 2018 at 8:09 am<br />
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The article you linked was quite interesting, and had this delightful comment:<br />
<a href="http://wondermark.com/socrates-vs-writing/#comment-396820615" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wondermark.com/socrates-vs-writing/#comment-396820615</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, what Socrates is really saying is that books are no good because they don&#8217;t have comment threads&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to have deep mail correspondences. Getting a letter and sending a letter were no small things! I saved those letters.

With two friends I now exchange emails of similar depth but that&#039;s it. 

Another factor is that long-distance phone calls are just part of some service package. Back in the day you might have to see a loan shark if you got carried away on a phone conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have deep mail correspondences. Getting a letter and sending a letter were no small things! I saved those letters.</p>
<p>With two friends I now exchange emails of similar depth but that&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>Another factor is that long-distance phone calls are just part of some service package. Back in the day you might have to see a loan shark if you got carried away on a phone conversation.</p>
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		By: Chris B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo and Frog:

I too feel sorry for biographers of the future. Letter writing seems to have gone out of style, and we are all the poorer for it.

Recently my 90-year-old father-in-law passed away and in going through his things we found a letter written to his mother from when he was part of the Japanese occupation force shortly after World War II. In the letter he was describing a visit to Nagasaki two years after the bombing. We never knew him to be very articulate or emotional, but we were astonished at how well written the letter was and its depth of feeling. My wife and her brother now cherish that letter.

On the other hand, during our son’s tour in Afghanistan all we received were a handful of emails for the year he was there. He later told us it was because he was almost always outside the wire without access to a computer. He’s an excellent writer (he’s now an attorney) but it never seemed to have occurred to him that he could have written some letters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo and Frog:</p>
<p>I too feel sorry for biographers of the future. Letter writing seems to have gone out of style, and we are all the poorer for it.</p>
<p>Recently my 90-year-old father-in-law passed away and in going through his things we found a letter written to his mother from when he was part of the Japanese occupation force shortly after World War II. In the letter he was describing a visit to Nagasaki two years after the bombing. We never knew him to be very articulate or emotional, but we were astonished at how well written the letter was and its depth of feeling. My wife and her brother now cherish that letter.</p>
<p>On the other hand, during our son’s tour in Afghanistan all we received were a handful of emails for the year he was there. He later told us it was because he was almost always outside the wire without access to a computer. He’s an excellent writer (he’s now an attorney) but it never seemed to have occurred to him that he could have written some letters.</p>
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