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		By: Mrs Whatsit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375344</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 23:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley, I&#039;ll have to consult with Mrs Which and Mrs Who and get back to you! 

And yes, it seems we are moved by similar poems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley, I&#8217;ll have to consult with Mrs Which and Mrs Who and get back to you! </p>
<p>And yes, it seems we are moved by similar poems.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375342</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 23:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Among the best, Jo Stafford on youtube doing &quot;I&#039;ll Be Seeing You&quot;.  As affecting as Millay.

The guy who reads the Patrick O&#039;Brian novels is terrific.  

Astonishing:  Simon Winchester did a book on the origin of the Oxford English Dictionary.  Can you believe it, it was fascinating.  I heard it read, presumably by him.  Really great.

Various people have read or put Kipling to music on youtube.  See Gunga Din by Michael Farrow.  He tells it as prose, and you can barely hear the rhyme and scan.  Excellent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the best, Jo Stafford on youtube doing &#8220;I&#8217;ll Be Seeing You&#8221;.  As affecting as Millay.</p>
<p>The guy who reads the Patrick O&#8217;Brian novels is terrific.  </p>
<p>Astonishing:  Simon Winchester did a book on the origin of the Oxford English Dictionary.  Can you believe it, it was fascinating.  I heard it read, presumably by him.  Really great.</p>
<p>Various people have read or put Kipling to music on youtube.  See Gunga Din by Michael Farrow.  He tells it as prose, and you can barely hear the rhyme and scan.  Excellent.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375286</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 05:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley, Aesop Fan:

Millay knew a lot about heartbreak, from both sides.

Here&#039;s another sonnet of hers that I like:
&lt;blockquote&gt;What lips my lips have kissed, and where, and why, 
I have forgotten, and what arms have lain 
Under my head till morning; but the rain 
Is full of ghosts tonight, that tap and sigh 
Upon the glass and listen for reply, 
And in my heart there stirs a quiet pain 
For unremembered lads that not again 
Will turn to me at midnight with a cry. 
Thus in winter stands the lonely tree, 
Nor knows what birds have vanished one by one, 
Yet knows its boughs more silent than before: 
I cannot say what loves have come and gone, 
I only know that summer sang in me 
A little while, that in me sings no more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley, Aesop Fan:</p>
<p>Millay knew a lot about heartbreak, from both sides.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another sonnet of hers that I like:</p>
<blockquote><p>What lips my lips have kissed, and where, and why,<br />
I have forgotten, and what arms have lain<br />
Under my head till morning; but the rain<br />
Is full of ghosts tonight, that tap and sigh<br />
Upon the glass and listen for reply,<br />
And in my heart there stirs a quiet pain<br />
For unremembered lads that not again<br />
Will turn to me at midnight with a cry.<br />
Thus in winter stands the lonely tree,<br />
Nor knows what birds have vanished one by one,<br />
Yet knows its boughs more silent than before:<br />
I cannot say what loves have come and gone,<br />
I only know that summer sang in me<br />
A little while, that in me sings no more.</p></blockquote>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 05:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Following up on the question of removing Christianity from &quot;Wrinkle,&quot; maybe the left discounts its importance because they really just don&#039;t know what&#039;s Christian and what isn&#039;t.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/03/02/facebook-fact-checks-threatens-christian-satire-site-babylon-bee-know-satire-post/

&quot;The Babylon Bee, often called a sort of Christian-themed Onion, has been making people laugh for the last two years (as of Thursday, 1 March), with — in Wikipedia’s words — “over-the-top fake stories focusing on well known pastors, celebrities, and politicians.”

Much of the fun comes simply from Christian doctrine, framed for a chuckle. 
...
So when it posted the following story on 1 March 2018, it was a pretty good bet it was, you know, satire.

&lt;b&gt;CNN Purchases Industrial-Sized Washing Machine To Spin News Before Publication&lt;/b&gt;

...
But it comes off as just a little over the top for Facebook to warn Babylon Bee that the “CNN washing machine” post had been fact-checked by Snopes.com*, and was disputed by same, and if Babylon Bee became a “repeat offender,” the site would see its “distribution reduced” and its “ability to monetize and advertised [sic] removed.”
...
another user posted a screen cap of the warning he received from Facebook when he clicked on the “CNN washing machine” post.&quot;


* * 
Snopes does know that the BB is a satire site, but the fact that they would even give a fact-check rating instead of just saying, &quot;Dude, get a life&quot; is ridiculous.
* * 
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-washing-machine/
CNN invested in an industrial-sized washing machine to help their journalists and news anchors spin the news before publication.

RATING
 FALSE
ORIGIN
On 1 March 2018, the Babylon Bee web site published an article reporting that CNN had made a significant investment in heavy machinery to assist their journalists “spin” the news they report:

...
Although it should have been obvious that the Babylon Bee piece was just a spoof of the ongoing political brouhaha over alleged news media “bias” and “fake news,” some readers missed that aspect of the article and interpreted it literally. But the site’s footer gives away the Babylon Bee’s nature by describing it as “Your Trusted Source For Christian News Satire,” and the site has been responsible for a number of other (usually religious-themed) spoofs &lt;b&gt;that have been mistaken for real news articles.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

MainStreamMedia: why nobody believes you are &quot;trusted news&quot; any longer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on the question of removing Christianity from &#8220;Wrinkle,&#8221; maybe the left discounts its importance because they really just don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s Christian and what isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/03/02/facebook-fact-checks-threatens-christian-satire-site-babylon-bee-know-satire-post/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/03/02/facebook-fact-checks-threatens-christian-satire-site-babylon-bee-know-satire-post/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Babylon Bee, often called a sort of Christian-themed Onion, has been making people laugh for the last two years (as of Thursday, 1 March), with — in Wikipedia’s words — “over-the-top fake stories focusing on well known pastors, celebrities, and politicians.”</p>
<p>Much of the fun comes simply from Christian doctrine, framed for a chuckle.<br />
&#8230;<br />
So when it posted the following story on 1 March 2018, it was a pretty good bet it was, you know, satire.</p>
<p><b>CNN Purchases Industrial-Sized Washing Machine To Spin News Before Publication</b></p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
But it comes off as just a little over the top for Facebook to warn Babylon Bee that the “CNN washing machine” post had been fact-checked by Snopes.com*, and was disputed by same, and if Babylon Bee became a “repeat offender,” the site would see its “distribution reduced” and its “ability to monetize and advertised [sic] removed.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
another user posted a screen cap of the warning he received from Facebook when he clicked on the “CNN washing machine” post.&#8221;</p>
<p>* *<br />
Snopes does know that the BB is a satire site, but the fact that they would even give a fact-check rating instead of just saying, &#8220;Dude, get a life&#8221; is ridiculous.<br />
* *<br />
<a href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-washing-machine/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-washing-machine/</a><br />
CNN invested in an industrial-sized washing machine to help their journalists and news anchors spin the news before publication.</p>
<p>RATING<br />
 FALSE<br />
ORIGIN<br />
On 1 March 2018, the Babylon Bee web site published an article reporting that CNN had made a significant investment in heavy machinery to assist their journalists “spin” the news they report:</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Although it should have been obvious that the Babylon Bee piece was just a spoof of the ongoing political brouhaha over alleged news media “bias” and “fake news,” some readers missed that aspect of the article and interpreted it literally. But the site’s footer gives away the Babylon Bee’s nature by describing it as “Your Trusted Source For Christian News Satire,” and the site has been responsible for a number of other (usually religious-themed) spoofs <b>that have been mistaken for real news articles.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>MainStreamMedia: why nobody believes you are &#8220;trusted news&#8221; any longer.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375282</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 05:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley Says: 
March 7th, 2018 at 10:15 am
Here’s my favorite Millay, telling the story of heartbreak as well as it can be told this side of country music.
___________________________________________
Outstanding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley Says:<br />
March 7th, 2018 at 10:15 am<br />
Here’s my favorite Millay, telling the story of heartbreak as well as it can be told this side of country music.<br />
___________________________________________<br />
Outstanding.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375281</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 05:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For a little more ambitious doggerel in a decidedly modern mode, I chanced across this video today.
The speaker is very animated (although he needs some thespian lessons for the used of his arms) and quite humorous, and if you know any German at all you will be ROFLing very soon.
The poem comes in about the middle of the talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_98m4Vod6_8

How learning German taught me the link between maths and poetry &#124; Harry Baker &#124; TEDxVienna]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a little more ambitious doggerel in a decidedly modern mode, I chanced across this video today.<br />
The speaker is very animated (although he needs some thespian lessons for the used of his arms) and quite humorous, and if you know any German at all you will be ROFLing very soon.<br />
The poem comes in about the middle of the talk.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_98m4Vod6_8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_98m4Vod6_8</a></p>
<p>How learning German taught me the link between maths and poetry | Harry Baker | TEDxVienna</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 04:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Susanamantha Says: 
March 7th, 2018 at 2:15 pm
If I was called on to demonstrate one of our homework problems in the classroom, I was ready!
* * *
I memorized a poem in grade school that I still remember, although not the exact title or the author (I have given an approximate title here).  Fortunately, I lived in the age where learning poems by heart was considered a useful life skill.  I can still do &quot;Jabberwocky&quot; when it seems called for.

THE MATH LESSON

I studied my tables over and over, 
and backward and forward too,
But I couldn&#039;t remember &quot;6 times 9&quot; 
and I didn&#039;t know what to do.

&#039;Til Sister told me to play with my doll,
and not to bother my head.
&quot;If you call her &quot;Fifty-four&quot; for awhile, 
you&#039;ll learn it by heart,&quot; she said.

So I took my favorite, Mary Ann, 
(though I thought &#039;twas a dreadful shame,
to call such a perfectly lovely girl 
such a perfectly horrid name),

And I called her &quot;my dear little Fifty-four&quot; 
a hundred times, &#039;til I knew 
the answer to &quot;6 times 9&quot; as well 
as the answer to &quot;2 times 2.&quot;

Next day, Elizabeth Wigglesworth 
(who always acts so proud) 
said, &quot;Six times nine if fifty-two,&quot;
and I almost laughed aloud.

But I wished I hadn&#039;t when Teacher said, 
&quot;Now, Dorothy, tell if you can.&quot;
For I thought of my doll, 
and sakes alive!
I answered, &quot;Mary Ann!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susanamantha Says:<br />
March 7th, 2018 at 2:15 pm<br />
If I was called on to demonstrate one of our homework problems in the classroom, I was ready!<br />
* * *<br />
I memorized a poem in grade school that I still remember, although not the exact title or the author (I have given an approximate title here).  Fortunately, I lived in the age where learning poems by heart was considered a useful life skill.  I can still do &#8220;Jabberwocky&#8221; when it seems called for.</p>
<p>THE MATH LESSON</p>
<p>I studied my tables over and over,<br />
and backward and forward too,<br />
But I couldn&#8217;t remember &#8220;6 times 9&#8221;<br />
and I didn&#8217;t know what to do.</p>
<p>&#8216;Til Sister told me to play with my doll,<br />
and not to bother my head.<br />
&#8220;If you call her &#8220;Fifty-four&#8221; for awhile,<br />
you&#8217;ll learn it by heart,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>So I took my favorite, Mary Ann,<br />
(though I thought &#8217;twas a dreadful shame,<br />
to call such a perfectly lovely girl<br />
such a perfectly horrid name),</p>
<p>And I called her &#8220;my dear little Fifty-four&#8221;<br />
a hundred times, &#8217;til I knew<br />
the answer to &#8220;6 times 9&#8221; as well<br />
as the answer to &#8220;2 times 2.&#8221;</p>
<p>Next day, Elizabeth Wigglesworth<br />
(who always acts so proud)<br />
said, &#8220;Six times nine if fifty-two,&#8221;<br />
and I almost laughed aloud.</p>
<p>But I wished I hadn&#8217;t when Teacher said,<br />
&#8220;Now, Dorothy, tell if you can.&#8221;<br />
For I thought of my doll,<br />
and sakes alive!<br />
I answered, &#8220;Mary Ann!&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/03/06/childhood-is-the-kingdom-millay-reading-millay/#comment-2375276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 04:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wrinkle in Time isn&#039;t in the theaters yet, but here is a pre-review, with some trepidation.

This was easily my favorite book as a middle-grader, and for many years afterword.  It seems a bit simplistic now (because I am decades older) but I would love my grandkids to read it.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/06/a-wrinkle-in-time-stripped-of-christianity-can-only-disappoint/

&quot;Are ideas and stories, books written by other people, just a jumping off point for a story that is adjacent to the story that Hollywood wants to tell? This isn’t a critique reserved specifically for “A Wrinkle in Time.” There are incredibly detailed lists for other franchises, like “Harry Potter” or “The Lord of the Rings” (and “The Hobbit”), where fans and even scholars dissect why and what the movies left out and changed. When a movie is written and created based on a story contained in a book, it’s a fair assumption that the story will resemble the book.

There are also fans who are willing to tolerate and overlook changes as long as the essence of the story is preserved. They’ll love the movie as much as the book, as long the feelings and the best and most vital parts of a story are carried into the movie. The concerns coming out about “A Wrinkle in Time” are that it very well might alienate not only the fans who crave and seek story telling perfection, but also those who desire the thematic and structural elements of a story to be left alone.

If a movie can’t tell a story that is lovable and recognizable to the people who have cherished and dissected the story in book form, it’s entirely possible that it’s strayed too far. These qualms have nothing to do with the cast, which looks entirely fantastic and talented, but rather with the decision to strip away the deeply interwoven Christianity of the story and leave behind instead a generic universalist moralism.
...
It’s a little astonishing to see Lee in one breath say that L’Engle’s Christian faith, which was a vital and formative part of her life, that she used it to express her ideas of frustration about how the world treats people in her novels was just an element, but then in the next explain the the story is actually about good vs. evil without seeing the disconnect. A story by a Christian author who made deliberate choices to incorporate Christian themes in a story about good vs. evil is a story with Christianity as a central theme, not just some minor element to be shrugged off.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrinkle in Time isn&#8217;t in the theaters yet, but here is a pre-review, with some trepidation.</p>
<p>This was easily my favorite book as a middle-grader, and for many years afterword.  It seems a bit simplistic now (because I am decades older) but I would love my grandkids to read it.</p>
<p><a href="http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/06/a-wrinkle-in-time-stripped-of-christianity-can-only-disappoint/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/06/a-wrinkle-in-time-stripped-of-christianity-can-only-disappoint/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Are ideas and stories, books written by other people, just a jumping off point for a story that is adjacent to the story that Hollywood wants to tell? This isn’t a critique reserved specifically for “A Wrinkle in Time.” There are incredibly detailed lists for other franchises, like “Harry Potter” or “The Lord of the Rings” (and “The Hobbit”), where fans and even scholars dissect why and what the movies left out and changed. When a movie is written and created based on a story contained in a book, it’s a fair assumption that the story will resemble the book.</p>
<p>There are also fans who are willing to tolerate and overlook changes as long as the essence of the story is preserved. They’ll love the movie as much as the book, as long the feelings and the best and most vital parts of a story are carried into the movie. The concerns coming out about “A Wrinkle in Time” are that it very well might alienate not only the fans who crave and seek story telling perfection, but also those who desire the thematic and structural elements of a story to be left alone.</p>
<p>If a movie can’t tell a story that is lovable and recognizable to the people who have cherished and dissected the story in book form, it’s entirely possible that it’s strayed too far. These qualms have nothing to do with the cast, which looks entirely fantastic and talented, but rather with the decision to strip away the deeply interwoven Christianity of the story and leave behind instead a generic universalist moralism.<br />
&#8230;<br />
It’s a little astonishing to see Lee in one breath say that L’Engle’s Christian faith, which was a vital and formative part of her life, that she used it to express her ideas of frustration about how the world treats people in her novels was just an element, but then in the next explain the the story is actually about good vs. evil without seeing the disconnect. A story by a Christian author who made deliberate choices to incorporate Christian themes in a story about good vs. evil is a story with Christianity as a central theme, not just some minor element to be shrugged off.&#8221;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 02:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;That second Millay poem is stunning, Huxley. Thank you.&lt;/i&gt;

Mrs Whatsit: You&#039;re welcome. We seem to share a similar taste in poetry.

Do you have any inside dope on the new &quot;Wrinkle in Time&quot; movie?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That second Millay poem is stunning, Huxley. Thank you.</i></p>
<p>Mrs Whatsit: You&#8217;re welcome. We seem to share a similar taste in poetry.</p>
<p>Do you have any inside dope on the new &#8220;Wrinkle in Time&#8221; movie?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2018 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not in general a fan of audio books, but there&#039;s one fairly narrow circumstance in which I really like them: a not-too-difficult-to-follow novel and a drive, especially a drive of many hours and maybe days. In some cases the reader can actually add to my enjoyment of the book--for instance, George Guidall&#039;s reading is now a big part of my enjoyment of the Tony Hillerman mysteries, which I love. And one particularly memorable experience was Jeremy Irons&#039;s reading of &lt;i&gt;Brideshead Revisited&lt;/i&gt;. I had read the novel and seen the memorable TV series, but his reading made Waugh&#039;s prose even richer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not in general a fan of audio books, but there&#8217;s one fairly narrow circumstance in which I really like them: a not-too-difficult-to-follow novel and a drive, especially a drive of many hours and maybe days. In some cases the reader can actually add to my enjoyment of the book&#8211;for instance, George Guidall&#8217;s reading is now a big part of my enjoyment of the Tony Hillerman mysteries, which I love. And one particularly memorable experience was Jeremy Irons&#8217;s reading of <i>Brideshead Revisited</i>. I had read the novel and seen the memorable TV series, but his reading made Waugh&#8217;s prose even richer.</p>
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