However, what are the daily casualties for Afghanistan from IEDs and other issues, during Hussein’s era…

Yes, I’m sure Americans tell themselves that they “notice” casualties. It’s mostly a pride filled shame of course. They don’t notice anything except what they are made to notice by the powers that be in the USA. It is easier to convince a con artist to stop his cons than to convince a mark that they were fooled.

That does not follow the logic.

Who was behind the demonstrators is actually irrelevant for the purposes of this post.

I take that to mean who is behind the people control and utilizing a crisis as opportunity is irrelevant as to the purposes of this post.

However, that’s just wrong. Since there is opportunity in a crisis, there is a method to the logic and madness.

Repeating the age old status quo belief that anti war movements were run by students and grassroots, rather than the truth that most of them were astroturf organizations funded by domestic and foreign powers, isn’t going to get to the heart of the opportunities available in people control: aka gun control.

the public face that both reflected and influenced public opinion, that then pressured politicians.

The order of events doesn’t go quite that way around. The presupposition is that the elected officials are elected and thus invested with the power to decide matters of policy.

Since the Demoncrats were already allies of Marxist Russia, wars including Vietnam were already predetermined in advance that the US had to lose and retreat. The anti war “student movements” were thus the pretexts that the politicians needed, yes, but it was not the people pressuring the politicians. That was more of a byproduct of the original crisis opportunity.

The kids–teens and young adults–were the public drivers of the antiwar movement, and they demonstrated en masse.

As reported by the MSM propagandists, yes. Most of that was an illusion cooked up to create the reality.

We didn’t need KGB disinformation to notice this.

Without defectors like Yuri Bezmenov and other presentations, Americans would think the MSM and the people noticed many things. In truth, they noticed not a thing but were made to notice and think in certain patterns. It is called manipulation and Americans are not used to the anti pride concept that they can be manipulated. Especially the “youths” that grew up with a social paradigm mostly constructed by astroturf and MSM propaganda that they believe is “high functioning thinking”.

Bravo!

Who was behind the demonstrators is actually irrelevant for the purposes of this post. Whether people agree with you or not, the point I was making in the post has to do with the public face that pressured and drove politicians to abandon the war, and the public face that both reflected and influenced public opinion, that then pressured politicians.

There were adults, too, of course, both in front of the cameras and behind the scenes. That’s not what I was pointing out. The kids—teens and young adults—were the public drivers of the antiwar movement, and they demonstrated en masse.

The war had been going on since we were in primary school. Although our leaders were constantly assuring us that the war was necessary and we were about to win if only we would put more friends in harm’s way — or even ourselves if male — the war kept going and so did the dying.

We didn’t need KGB disinformation to notice this.

Just like Putin elected Trump!

They were driven by the KGB disinformation operations. The students convinced themselves and others that they were the leaders of the movement.

Of course there will be some abuse and cases of people dropping the ball. This is the government we’re talking about. There’s always a trade-off.

Naturally, I also support having armed security, medal detectors and spot checks at schools. With a few measures like that, I think we can decrease mass shootings, and take some pressure off the 2nd amendment.

https://shadow.affsdiary.com/2018/02/22/the-right-to-self-defence/
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The right to self defence is the defence of the person — the right to be able to say “NO I AM NOT LESS THAN YOU — even if you try to beat me down I WILL NOT SUBMIT!”

It isn’t just with guns, despite the common idea that this is the case — it’s also the right to fight back. It is the right to defend those under your care, and to take the responsibility that you have been entrusted — especially true for teachers. Parents entrust their children to schools, with the reasonable expectation that the adults will look after them.

You cannot defend those under your care if you have less capacity to do so than an attacker. And contrary to common belief, disarmament only results in more vulnerable victims. I’m small and tough, but I am also small and easily overpowered; especially if facing more than one opponent. I am only intact because my response to the violence I’ve been given is to become even more violent and terrifying far out of proportion to my size. Because I valued me more than valuing the other person who thought it’s acceptable to attack me.

I am not alone in that belief. I am not LESS than my attacker — that person does not have the right to beat on me unopposed and without resistance. And it is especially telling that a survivor of the Columbine Shooting thinks this too — that the children in schools shouldn’t be sitting targets. Guns are not the only weapon available, make no mistake — a car is just as deadly, if not worse, a weapon — just look at how often that common item is used in terrorist attacks. Yet no calls for ‘car control’ are made. But preventative measures that rely on people present at places where the vulnerable are do work — it’s just not as reported in the media because it doesn’t serve their agenda. They choose to ignore that multiple laws in place that should have prevented shootings were not properly followed, which resulted in the criminals getting weapons. if we cannot expect the law to be followed despite so many warnings, reports and red flags, (and we do not reasonably expect criminals to follow laws, we have working brains) then the only people who the people can count on are themselves, and those willing to protect others.

More schools are following the Israeli Method of protecting their students, that gun free zones only protect the criminals looking for unprotected targets. Standing your ground to fight and protect is not a wrong, it is the correct thing to do when faced with someone or something that wishes to end your life or those around you.

You deserve to live. You deserve to survive. There is nothing wrong with fighting for your life. There is nothing wrong in protecting yourself, your loved ones, and those around you.

Don’t let someone else declare you are less worthy of life. Beware those who think they deserve more protection than you do, with things they don’t believe you should have. They want you unprotected for a reason, and that reason is never good for you.”

NY Post discovers Nick Cruz has an African-American half-brother that went target shooting with him: BURY THIS STORY, DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE