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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once is happenstance. Twice may be bad luck. Three times, it is enemy action.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once is happenstance. Twice may be bad luck. Three times, it is enemy action.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/02/19/what-to-do-about-cruz-and-the-fbi/#comment-2366264</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Yes, the FBI screwed up in dealing with the Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz before the murders were committed, according to its own protocols for investigating the sort of tips and warnings it received about Cruz from several sources.&lt;/b&gt;

The Deep State interpretation is that the DS has the power and intent to order the FBI to &quot;drop the ball&quot;. Just as police were ordered to stand down in Demoncrat fiefdoms and Benghazi CIA and ex military response teams were told &quot;Stand down, let them die&quot;.

&lt;b&gt;I believe the answers are probably “not long,” and “no.”&lt;/b&gt;

Would the DS have taken that risk that the false flag op would be uncovered or interrupted? I say no. It was within their means to order the FBI to let it go, which they most likely did.

&lt;b&gt; The FBI had the Boston marathon bombers right in front of them, and they failed do act.&lt;/b&gt;

Another potential false flag op where the FBI &quot;dropped the ball&quot;. Are Americans capable of connecting the dots? Too many instances of incompetence isn&#039;t incompetence any more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Yes, the FBI screwed up in dealing with the Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz before the murders were committed, according to its own protocols for investigating the sort of tips and warnings it received about Cruz from several sources.</b></p>
<p>The Deep State interpretation is that the DS has the power and intent to order the FBI to &#8220;drop the ball&#8221;. Just as police were ordered to stand down in Demoncrat fiefdoms and Benghazi CIA and ex military response teams were told &#8220;Stand down, let them die&#8221;.</p>
<p><b>I believe the answers are probably “not long,” and “no.”</b></p>
<p>Would the DS have taken that risk that the false flag op would be uncovered or interrupted? I say no. It was within their means to order the FBI to let it go, which they most likely did.</p>
<p><b> The FBI had the Boston marathon bombers right in front of them, and they failed do act.</b></p>
<p>Another potential false flag op where the FBI &#8220;dropped the ball&#8221;. Are Americans capable of connecting the dots? Too many instances of incompetence isn&#8217;t incompetence any more.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be curious to read a solid assessment of the FBI&#039;s effectiveness, past and present. 

I hear tell the workaday agents are doing their jobs and doing them well, though the Cruz tip failure isn&#039;t encouraging. I had a friend who was a Treasury agent and he routinely disparaged FBI agents as the &quot;Feebs.&quot; That could be the usual organizational rivalry.

The FBI has caught a number of serious Soviet spies. Though that is counterbalanced by Robert Hanssen who spied for the Soviets, then the Russians, over a 25-year period while he was an FBI agent. 

Twice Hanssen delivered lists of of all American double-agents to the Soviets. It took 12 years for the FBI mole hunt to locate Hanssen. They ignored a tip from Hanssen&#039;s brother-in-law, who also worked for the FBI!

We need something like the FBI. I don&#039;t think folding its functions into the US Marshals, who are basically law enforcement not investigation, is the solution. Nor the Dept of Homeland Security, which I would like to see go away. (Lotsa luck.)

There have already been several high-level resignations, firings and demotions at the FBI. These should continue and the penalties should go farther. For instance if ex-Director McCabe really altered Strzok&#039;s 302 report on the Flynn interview, McCabe should be looking at jail time and the loss of his pension.

Who watches the watchers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be curious to read a solid assessment of the FBI&#8217;s effectiveness, past and present. </p>
<p>I hear tell the workaday agents are doing their jobs and doing them well, though the Cruz tip failure isn&#8217;t encouraging. I had a friend who was a Treasury agent and he routinely disparaged FBI agents as the &#8220;Feebs.&#8221; That could be the usual organizational rivalry.</p>
<p>The FBI has caught a number of serious Soviet spies. Though that is counterbalanced by Robert Hanssen who spied for the Soviets, then the Russians, over a 25-year period while he was an FBI agent. </p>
<p>Twice Hanssen delivered lists of of all American double-agents to the Soviets. It took 12 years for the FBI mole hunt to locate Hanssen. They ignored a tip from Hanssen&#8217;s brother-in-law, who also worked for the FBI!</p>
<p>We need something like the FBI. I don&#8217;t think folding its functions into the US Marshals, who are basically law enforcement not investigation, is the solution. Nor the Dept of Homeland Security, which I would like to see go away. (Lotsa luck.)</p>
<p>There have already been several high-level resignations, firings and demotions at the FBI. These should continue and the penalties should go farther. For instance if ex-Director McCabe really altered Strzok&#8217;s 302 report on the Flynn interview, McCabe should be looking at jail time and the loss of his pension.</p>
<p>Who watches the watchers?</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Neo @2/19/18 5:33 PM&lt;/i&gt; Perhaps the Klebolds and Harrises were the exception, or perhaps cluelessness and dithering are another form of bad parenting.  Note that neither put their son into involuntary psychiatric confinement, and that Harris was on, or just coming off, an SSRI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Neo @2/19/18 5:33 PM</i> Perhaps the Klebolds and Harrises were the exception, or perhaps cluelessness and dithering are another form of bad parenting.  Note that neither put their son into involuntary psychiatric confinement, and that Harris was on, or just coming off, an SSRI.</p>
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		By: kevino		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: &quot;The FBI will be investigating its own error, but I wonder at this point if anyone has faith in the investigation, either.&quot;
What&#039;s wrong with that picture? A bureaucracy investigating itself.

The real issue here in the FBI&#039;s handling of this case is that we, the public, are being asked to give up our right to privacy and to ignore the obvious dangers of building &lt;b&gt;powerful bureaucracies that are not accountable to anyone&lt;/b&gt;. We are being asked to do this based on the theory that an all-knowing FBI will be able to predict a crime before it happens and swoop in to save us.

This is a total crook. Even without reading everyone&#039;s on-line footprint, you can point the FBI directly at dangerous people plotting mass murder, and they are impotent. And this isn&#039;t the first time. The FBI had the Boston marathon bombers right in front of them, and they failed do act.

They have all the resources in the world to attack people for their political views (e.g. Catherine Engelbrecht and Carter Page), but they fail to take action to prevent mass attacks.

Given the incompetence of the FBI, we need to seriously reconsider which is the greater danger to the republic: terrorists or the FBI/DHS/NSA/DNI cabal. Clearly surrendering our privacy rights is a foolish idea involving serious and unnecessary risks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;The FBI will be investigating its own error, but I wonder at this point if anyone has faith in the investigation, either.&#8221;<br />
What&#8217;s wrong with that picture? A bureaucracy investigating itself.</p>
<p>The real issue here in the FBI&#8217;s handling of this case is that we, the public, are being asked to give up our right to privacy and to ignore the obvious dangers of building <b>powerful bureaucracies that are not accountable to anyone</b>. We are being asked to do this based on the theory that an all-knowing FBI will be able to predict a crime before it happens and swoop in to save us.</p>
<p>This is a total crook. Even without reading everyone&#8217;s on-line footprint, you can point the FBI directly at dangerous people plotting mass murder, and they are impotent. And this isn&#8217;t the first time. The FBI had the Boston marathon bombers right in front of them, and they failed do act.</p>
<p>They have all the resources in the world to attack people for their political views (e.g. Catherine Engelbrecht and Carter Page), but they fail to take action to prevent mass attacks.</p>
<p>Given the incompetence of the FBI, we need to seriously reconsider which is the greater danger to the republic: terrorists or the FBI/DHS/NSA/DNI cabal. Clearly surrendering our privacy rights is a foolish idea involving serious and unnecessary risks.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey...what you said.
If the School District was punking the criminal justice system to get their crimes stats lowered &#038; thought for some minute not giving juveniles a criminal record was some &quot;white knight&quot; do-gooder thing...bring on the wolf pack of lawyers. Every parent should sue them corporately &#038; if possible personally.

Did I mention I was a tad angry about all this. And the damn fools using frightened kids for political point scoring. Now there&#039;s some folks who need a good shooting...pinkie toes only. Make &#039;em hobble so we can see &#039;em coming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey&#8230;what you said.<br />
If the School District was punking the criminal justice system to get their crimes stats lowered &amp; thought for some minute not giving juveniles a criminal record was some &#8220;white knight&#8221; do-gooder thing&#8230;bring on the wolf pack of lawyers. Every parent should sue them corporately &amp; if possible personally.</p>
<p>Did I mention I was a tad angry about all this. And the damn fools using frightened kids for political point scoring. Now there&#8217;s some folks who need a good shooting&#8230;pinkie toes only. Make &#8217;em hobble so we can see &#8217;em coming.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Recall that Trayvon Martin might not have been in the position he was in if the school system hadn&#039;t been active in changing actual reportable &quot;crimes&quot; to something anodyne in the school system.  They&#039;d wanted to reduce the number of black boys being sent to the criminal justice system. So Martin escaped whatever might have put him in some other life path.
It&#039;s been said that Cruz was in the same position due to the school system&#039;s interest in reducing the criminal numbers coming from the students.  But if he had been crimed for something, he&#039;d not have been eligible to buy the AR.  So if it turns out that he had done something which was statutorily a crime and didn&#039;t get reported due to the school system&#039;s hot idea, it might be the system&#039;s fault.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recall that Trayvon Martin might not have been in the position he was in if the school system hadn&#8217;t been active in changing actual reportable &#8220;crimes&#8221; to something anodyne in the school system.  They&#8217;d wanted to reduce the number of black boys being sent to the criminal justice system. So Martin escaped whatever might have put him in some other life path.<br />
It&#8217;s been said that Cruz was in the same position due to the school system&#8217;s interest in reducing the criminal numbers coming from the students.  But if he had been crimed for something, he&#8217;d not have been eligible to buy the AR.  So if it turns out that he had done something which was statutorily a crime and didn&#8217;t get reported due to the school system&#8217;s hot idea, it might be the system&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Neo &#038; other guests,

I&#039;ll take a stab at your question: What to do about Cruz &#038; the FBI? And I&#039;ll confess to more than a wee dram of anger at this point...

Cruz...fullest extent of the law. He seems to have a declared intent to do gross harm. Prosecute according to whatever statutes apply. What&#039;s the worst punishment he could get in FL. That.

Other folks like him...armed guards at every school &#038; restricted access points. OR arm &#038; train specific teachers in every wing of every school. No more dumbass &quot;gun free zone&quot; shooting galleries.

The FBI...close it down. Fire them all. Assign all open cases to US Marshals or Homeland Security or the appropriate local jurisdiction. If field agents want jobs, they can apply to Homeland or Marshals or local LEOs. After this &#038; after the 0 administration RussiaRussiaRussia debacle, who&#039;s going to trust them to investigate anything? Not me. Have the National guard immediately confiscate weapons &#038; shields. Buh bye. And start at the FL field office then do DC. Fire them all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neo &amp; other guests,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a stab at your question: What to do about Cruz &amp; the FBI? And I&#8217;ll confess to more than a wee dram of anger at this point&#8230;</p>
<p>Cruz&#8230;fullest extent of the law. He seems to have a declared intent to do gross harm. Prosecute according to whatever statutes apply. What&#8217;s the worst punishment he could get in FL. That.</p>
<p>Other folks like him&#8230;armed guards at every school &amp; restricted access points. OR arm &amp; train specific teachers in every wing of every school. No more dumbass &#8220;gun free zone&#8221; shooting galleries.</p>
<p>The FBI&#8230;close it down. Fire them all. Assign all open cases to US Marshals or Homeland Security or the appropriate local jurisdiction. If field agents want jobs, they can apply to Homeland or Marshals or local LEOs. After this &amp; after the 0 administration RussiaRussiaRussia debacle, who&#8217;s going to trust them to investigate anything? Not me. Have the National guard immediately confiscate weapons &amp; shields. Buh bye. And start at the FL field office then do DC. Fire them all.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lightening:

Clearly he did not get enough help.  But I&#039;m not at all sure that more help would have changed anything.  It certainly would have been worth a try. 

Also &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikolas-cruz-we-had-this-monster-living-under-our-roof-and-we-didnt-know/ar-BBJgp8y?li=BBmkt5R&amp;ocid=ientp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see this&lt;/a&gt; for a description of his recent mood, as observed by the people with whom he was living.  It didn&#039;t seem all that bad, considering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightening:</p>
<p>Clearly he did not get enough help.  But I&#8217;m not at all sure that more help would have changed anything.  It certainly would have been worth a try. </p>
<p>Also <a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikolas-cruz-we-had-this-monster-living-under-our-roof-and-we-didnt-know/ar-BBJgp8y?li=BBmkt5R&#038;ocid=ientp" rel="nofollow">see this</a> for a description of his recent mood, as observed by the people with whom he was living.  It didn&#8217;t seem all that bad, considering.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frog:

I actually have a draft of a post for tomorrow that takes on the question of more laws to keep guns from someone such as Cruz, at least temporarily.  The short answer is I&#039;m for it, but with great reservations.

Preventive detention is different and a much graver threat to liberty.  There are an enormous number of people either like Cruz or at least substantially like Cruz, not just young people but older people as well.  When the crazy neighbor finally goes off the deep end and kills someone, everyone points back and says they knew it would happen. But a much vaster number of people are felt to be dangerous in a similar way and to a similar degree, and yet they never do anything. The number who turn serial killer are very very small.

Yet you would sacrifice the liberty of the many to protect us from the few, without any way to distinguish between them.  Perhaps you think therapists could do it effectively? No, they could not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frog:</p>
<p>I actually have a draft of a post for tomorrow that takes on the question of more laws to keep guns from someone such as Cruz, at least temporarily.  The short answer is I&#8217;m for it, but with great reservations.</p>
<p>Preventive detention is different and a much graver threat to liberty.  There are an enormous number of people either like Cruz or at least substantially like Cruz, not just young people but older people as well.  When the crazy neighbor finally goes off the deep end and kills someone, everyone points back and says they knew it would happen. But a much vaster number of people are felt to be dangerous in a similar way and to a similar degree, and yet they never do anything. The number who turn serial killer are very very small.</p>
<p>Yet you would sacrifice the liberty of the many to protect us from the few, without any way to distinguish between them.  Perhaps you think therapists could do it effectively? No, they could not.</p>
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