Comments on: Update on the Hawaii nuclear false alarm https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:44:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.1 By: Julie near Chicago https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361834 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:44:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361834 Speaking of the abuse of “they” and other pronouns real and fake, and of words in general:

“If you use the language rules that your ideological opponent demands that you use, you cede the territory to them. “

Thus Jordan Peterson to Mark Steyn, at 6:13 into their discussion of legal constraints and requirements on language in order to force ideology on people. The initiatives and statutes regarding such use are steps on the road to totalitarianism — starting with the loss of free speech, but there is much more to be lost as we travel down that road.

(As for the misuse of “they” with a singular antecedent, that has been a standard mistake for at least the nearly 3/4-century that I’ve been speaking American English like a native. I note that Dr. Peterson himself makes the error, in this very quote! *g* But in standard parlance it’s just that — a mistake, not purposeful, and certainly not a required abuse of the word.)

“The Mark Steyn Show with Jordan Peterson,” published 4/13/17, at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4obxH2vSms

]]> By: Ilíon https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361781 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 07:07:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361781 “Or (more likely, I think) are they shielding us from knowledge of the worker’s [sex] …”

That’s how it seems to me.

]]> By: Ilíon https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361778 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 07:03:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361778 “So “Hawaii officials” either lied about it or didn’t even know what had happened.”

Both options logically-and-morally equate to “they lied about it”.

]]> By: om https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361739 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 02:26:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361739 Could have been worse, could have been an oil tanker ran aground…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

]]> By: charles https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361738 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 02:01:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361738 “So “Hawaii officials” either lied about it or didn’t even know what had happened. Fancy that.”

Yep, and with this latest version of the story they went from “not reassuring” to downright “what they heck are they doing?”.

]]> By: Amadeus 48 https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361728 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 00:49:40 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361728 I believe that news reports from other outlets more informative than WaPoo have identified “they” as “he”. WaPoo appears to be leading a race to the bottom.

]]> By: Christina Laczko https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361725 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 00:28:07 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361725 I worked in emergency response situations. Amber Alerts, Silver Alerts, and I would think Missile Alerts all require more than 1 person to vett before sending out. It is the rule of 2 or 3, depending on your Standard operating Processes. One person must verify what you are doing, and another signs off. This is common practice. There is generally a few checks.

]]> By: n.n https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361707 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:48:07 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361707 Perhaps the gender traits (e.g. orientation) are uncorrelated with the genetic sex, which in the age of political congruence (“=”), is cause for progressive confusion.

]]> By: Esther https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361705 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:29:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361705 As far as communicating, the new use of “they” as an English language gender neutral singular pronoun is really confusing. I read it to mean a slew of people, rather than a single person.

Could also be that the wapo article is actually being specific. By being so carefully PC, maybe ‘they’ inadvertently outed an individual who militantly identifies as nongender conforming, unless there are several.

]]> By: mollyNH https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/30/update-on-the-hawaii-nuclear-false-alarm/#comment-2361700 Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:25:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75215#comment-2361700 @Griffin, OMG, Good luck Hawaii

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