Comments on: Explaining the delay in undoing the Hawaii nuclear scare https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/ A blog about political change, among other things Thu, 25 Jan 2018 03:14:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.1 By: Casey https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361179 Thu, 25 Jan 2018 03:14:48 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361179 Having read the entire article, it makes sense that the Governor didn’t know his own Twitter & FB passwords. He, like many other politicians, has assistants who run those sites for him.

Whether this is a good approach or not is a separate topic, but I see nothing to worry about.

…How that missile alert got out in the first place, being an “oops” moment is of much greater interest and relevance.

]]> By: ConceptJunkie https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361120 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:05:48 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361120 I can believe this all boils down to stupid software design. So many things do. As a software developer of 30 years and certified nerd, one of my favorite sayings is “Welcome to the future, where everything is amazing and nothing works.”

In addition to poorly-designed software, it also seems that the Hawaiian officials failed to think things through when they created their processes, which is another common malady of organizations these days.

XKCD weighs in: https://xkcd.com/1946/

]]> By: Penrod https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361113 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:23:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361113 I live in Honolulu, and yes, I think HI-EMA does have a number of canned messages. Perfectly reasonable to do so.

However, the visuals the guy in the chair has to deal with are a mess. At the moment, I don’t blame the guy who pushed the ‘button’. I blame the guy in charge of HI-EMA, Vern Miyagi, who failed to identify and correct the problems in the software which allowed a single person’s mistakes to send a real warning, allowed software which apparently did not immediately make it blindingly obvious a real message had been sent, did not make it clear to supervisors that they could override protocols to immediately rescind a false alert, and apparently thought they needed federal permission to rescind a false alert, even though they apparently do not need such permission. Miyagi appears to be the guy who screwed up all of these issues, and if that turns out to be the case, he should be replaced.

]]> By: Surellin https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361103 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:46:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361103 Oh, what a brave new world with such people in it! So we no longer listen to the Emergency Broadcasting System. Instead, to learn about imminent disasters, we follow Twitter? I am not comforted.

]]> By: Ron Harvey https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361101 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:38:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361101 He wanted to use Twitter to countermand a Duck-and-Cover order? The same emergency broadcast system should be used for the Just Kidding (I mean, All Clear). The governor apparently wouldn’t have seen a Twitter message if somebody else had sent it!

And, now, to the text of the alert itself. Who went to the trouble to type that up? When? (I doubt it is canned). With all of the lying and delaying, one wonders whether this were a social experiment, designed to gin up anti-nuke anti-Trump sentiment.

]]> By: steve walsh https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361100 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 11:45:40 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361100 First observation: Top Men!

Second: Government is the word we use for the things we choose to do together.

Last: Why is the governor of a state using Twitter to conduct his official duties?

]]> By: ythgfg97chr7d https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361094 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:34:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361094 It is not an explanation. He didn’t need his password for the initial warning to go out.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361087 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:42:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361087 Remember, these are the people that the Left holds out as the experts who should run our lives in the tiniest detail.

]]> By: Kae Arby https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361075 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 02:34:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361075 As Professor Reynolds would say,
“Our country is in the very best of hands.”

]]> By: charles https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/23/explaining-the-delay-in-undoing-the-hawaii-nuclear-scare/#comment-2361074 Wed, 24 Jan 2018 02:26:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=75066#comment-2361074 ” . . .he did not know his Twitter account password.”

So? Doesn’t he have assistants? What if he were hit by a car (or something) and wouldn’t have been able to get into his account anyway? Isn’t there a back up plan?

This is starting (more like has been since the get-go) like they are lying about something. Like, I dunno, they faked the whole thing just to see how it would play out? And it didn’t make Trump look as bad as they planned and now they are in “spin mode.”

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