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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elaine T:

Your kid shows good taste, I think.  I also think that in general, people hunger for beauty.

I love those Fantasia dance sequences.  They&#039;re not only very funny, but they are spot on about movement.  Nowadays computers can mimic movement.  Back then it required a keen human.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine T:</p>
<p>Your kid shows good taste, I think.  I also think that in general, people hunger for beauty.</p>
<p>I love those Fantasia dance sequences.  They&#8217;re not only very funny, but they are spot on about movement.  Nowadays computers can mimic movement.  Back then it required a keen human.</p>
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		By: Elaine T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I showed your clips in this one to the kid who said &#039;the other dancer is wobbling on her toes.  And not interesting to watch.  &#039;  Fonteyn, OTOH, the kid wants MORE.  

Yes, we know Fantasia.  We actually dug out the &#039;making of&#039; discs from the set recently and saw (among other things) the animators working with a dancer to get the movements down right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I showed your clips in this one to the kid who said &#8216;the other dancer is wobbling on her toes.  And not interesting to watch.  &#8216;  Fonteyn, OTOH, the kid wants MORE.  </p>
<p>Yes, we know Fantasia.  We actually dug out the &#8216;making of&#8217; discs from the set recently and saw (among other things) the animators working with a dancer to get the movements down right.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mean to be a jerk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be a jerk.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are welcome for the 20 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome for the 20 years.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Fonteyn definitely had more elegance and control, very noticeable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChzhB5I4_8

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;An Evening with the Royal Ballet, Rudolf Nureyev, Margot Fonteyn, 1963&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again I ask, how can I repay you.

Oh, wait. Maybe I already did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Fonteyn definitely had more elegance and control, very noticeable.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChzhB5I4_8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChzhB5I4_8</a></p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>An Evening with the Royal Ballet, Rudolf Nureyev, Margot Fonteyn, 1963</p></blockquote>
<p>Again I ask, how can I repay you.</p>
<p>Oh, wait. Maybe I already did.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How can I repay you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I repay you.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know it wasn&#039;t aimed at me. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&#038;v=D86sey40ZD0

Fourth Act from the ballet Swan Lake (excerpt)&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it wasn&#8217;t aimed at me. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&#038;v=D86sey40ZD0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&#038;v=D86sey40ZD0</a></p>
<p>Fourth Act from the ballet Swan Lake (excerpt)</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elaine T:

Well, I just watched a 3-minute Swan Lake sequence from the movie, and although I probably won&#039;t be watching any more, I have to say that the ballet parts are drawn more correctly than most cartoon renditions, although of course there&#039;s nothing realistic about it.

The best cartoon spoof of ballet by far, on the other hand, is from &quot;Fantasia.&quot; I don&#039;t know whether you&#039;re familiar with it, but I discuss some clips &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2013/08/09/this-may-just-be-the-cutest-baby-elephant-video-ever/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  The Disney animators---who didn&#039;t have computers---mimic ballet movement so well, and with such humor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine T:</p>
<p>Well, I just watched a 3-minute Swan Lake sequence from the movie, and although I probably won&#8217;t be watching any more, I have to say that the ballet parts are drawn more correctly than most cartoon renditions, although of course there&#8217;s nothing realistic about it.</p>
<p>The best cartoon spoof of ballet by far, on the other hand, is from &#8220;Fantasia.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;re familiar with it, but I discuss some clips <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2013/08/09/this-may-just-be-the-cutest-baby-elephant-video-ever/">here</a>.  The Disney animators&#8212;who didn&#8217;t have computers&#8212;mimic ballet movement so well, and with such humor.</p>
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		By: Elaine T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting this.  Fonteyn&#039;s grace and control put the more modern dancers I&#039;ve seen in the shade.  That other one you posted just doesn&#039;t compare, even in video.

My kid has recently developed an interest in ballet &#038; classical music due to a Japanese anime (me - a what?) called Princess Tutu (me - cringe) which is sort of based on Swan Lake with other folklore/ballet stories mixed in.  The music, being all classical and mostly ballet compositions is fabulous, (I spotted Swan Lake, Prokofiev (R&#038;J), Mugusorky, Beethover, and Dance Macabre whoever composed that) and the studio worked with a professional ballet corp somewhere to get movements and mime right.  They draw the grace of Fonteyn in their dancers.   

It may strike you as a horrible mishmash - I discovered it grew on me as I was obliged to watch it, to be able to discuss it, and it did give the kid an appreciation for ballet and classical music previously missing.  Now, though, the complaint is that no modern dancers do it that way, they&#039;re too busy performing. --

but if you ever took a look at it, I&#039;d be interested in your response.  (start at the end and work backwards.  I&#039;d never have stuck through watching if I hadn&#039;t done that.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.  Fonteyn&#8217;s grace and control put the more modern dancers I&#8217;ve seen in the shade.  That other one you posted just doesn&#8217;t compare, even in video.</p>
<p>My kid has recently developed an interest in ballet &amp; classical music due to a Japanese anime (me &#8211; a what?) called Princess Tutu (me &#8211; cringe) which is sort of based on Swan Lake with other folklore/ballet stories mixed in.  The music, being all classical and mostly ballet compositions is fabulous, (I spotted Swan Lake, Prokofiev (R&amp;J), Mugusorky, Beethover, and Dance Macabre whoever composed that) and the studio worked with a professional ballet corp somewhere to get movements and mime right.  They draw the grace of Fonteyn in their dancers.   </p>
<p>It may strike you as a horrible mishmash &#8211; I discovered it grew on me as I was obliged to watch it, to be able to discuss it, and it did give the kid an appreciation for ballet and classical music previously missing.  Now, though, the complaint is that no modern dancers do it that way, they&#8217;re too busy performing. &#8212;</p>
<p>but if you ever took a look at it, I&#8217;d be interested in your response.  (start at the end and work backwards.  I&#8217;d never have stuck through watching if I hadn&#8217;t done that.)</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 02:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[steve walsh:

Yes, the fourth act of Swan Lake can be astoundingly beautiful.  It&#039;s almost a mood piece, and the music is sublime.  

I think you will enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/12/26/transformations-queen-into-swan-2/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2016/08/20/ballet-mime-in-swan-lake-a-dying-art/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve walsh:</p>
<p>Yes, the fourth act of Swan Lake can be astoundingly beautiful.  It&#8217;s almost a mood piece, and the music is sublime.  </p>
<p>I think you will enjoy <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/12/26/transformations-queen-into-swan-2/">this</a> and <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2016/08/20/ballet-mime-in-swan-lake-a-dying-art/">this</a>.</p>
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