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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2356343</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t believe anything or anyone.

Not until you check your sources and the conspiracy facts.

&lt;b&gt;Our relationship with our closest ally is at a lowpoint after his White House leaked their classified information, putting a terror investigation in jeopardy. &lt;/b&gt;

The WH leaked way more information concerning OIF and other American wars, getting scores and countless American patriotic soldiers killed. Nobody seemed to have done much about that.

&lt;b&gt;He’s already put an Israeli spy’s life in danger.&lt;/b&gt;

Last name wouldn&#039;t be Jarret...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t believe anything or anyone.</p>
<p>Not until you check your sources and the conspiracy facts.</p>
<p><b>Our relationship with our closest ally is at a lowpoint after his White House leaked their classified information, putting a terror investigation in jeopardy. </b></p>
<p>The WH leaked way more information concerning OIF and other American wars, getting scores and countless American patriotic soldiers killed. Nobody seemed to have done much about that.</p>
<p><b>He’s already put an Israeli spy’s life in danger.</b></p>
<p>Last name wouldn&#8217;t be Jarret&#8230;</p>
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		By: Manju		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355751</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

Your very stable genius somehow managed to attack a bill that his very own National Security Team supports, just as it was being voted on.  The Speaker had to get on the phone with him and explain why his criticism was misguided. At that point, he issued a clarification, but not before his own Chief of Staff had to go down to Capital Hill to clear up the confusion the President just created.

He’s already put an Israeli spy’s life in danger. Our relationship with our closest ally is at a lowpoint after his White House leaked their classified information, putting a terror investigation in jeopardy. The latest incident lends credence to reports that he does not read intelligence reports, and has (thankfully) outsourced National Security to the Adults in the admin, while he listens to Fox and Friends while tweeting like Paris Hilton on Acid.

He’s a national security threat. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>Your very stable genius somehow managed to attack a bill that his very own National Security Team supports, just as it was being voted on.  The Speaker had to get on the phone with him and explain why his criticism was misguided. At that point, he issued a clarification, but not before his own Chief of Staff had to go down to Capital Hill to clear up the confusion the President just created.</p>
<p>He’s already put an Israeli spy’s life in danger. Our relationship with our closest ally is at a lowpoint after his White House leaked their classified information, putting a terror investigation in jeopardy. The latest incident lends credence to reports that he does not read intelligence reports, and has (thankfully) outsourced National Security to the Adults in the admin, while he listens to Fox and Friends while tweeting like Paris Hilton on Acid.</p>
<p>He’s a national security threat. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355739</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Saw a link to this story in the comments at Sarah Hoyt&#039;s post Thursday.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/10/confused-readers-are-buying-the-wrong-fire-and-fury/
&quot;New buyers of Hansen’s book didn’t seem happy with their mistake.

“There was one tweet, he came forward and said, ‘I bought this book by accident and there’s no way I’m reading it,’ in kind of this accusatory tone. I thought well, ‘it’s not quite my fault, mate,’” said Hansen.

Others left unhappy reviews on Amazon.

“I don’t see anything about President Trump! I don’t know why the democrats are so happy with this book and making a big deal out of this!” one Amazon user said.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a link to this story in the comments at Sarah Hoyt&#8217;s post Thursday.</p>
<p><a href="https://nypost.com/2018/01/10/confused-readers-are-buying-the-wrong-fire-and-fury/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2018/01/10/confused-readers-are-buying-the-wrong-fire-and-fury/</a><br />
&#8220;New buyers of Hansen’s book didn’t seem happy with their mistake.</p>
<p>“There was one tweet, he came forward and said, ‘I bought this book by accident and there’s no way I’m reading it,’ in kind of this accusatory tone. I thought well, ‘it’s not quite my fault, mate,’” said Hansen.</p>
<p>Others left unhappy reviews on Amazon.</p>
<p>“I don’t see anything about President Trump! I don’t know why the democrats are so happy with this book and making a big deal out of this!” one Amazon user said.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355691</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Out of control, or just out of the box?
https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/01/11/msm-miss-point-trumps-fisa-slam-perfectly-illustrating-big-discourse-problem/

&quot;The media ran around in circles all day chasing Trump’s violation of the conventions for political messaging, without conveying anything useful to the people.

Trump actually communicated useful information to the people.  It just didn’t sound like conventional political messaging to the MSM — which proceeded to harp on that, as if it’s what matters when the people have been at risk of improper surveillance by their government for years.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of control, or just out of the box?<br />
<a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/01/11/msm-miss-point-trumps-fisa-slam-perfectly-illustrating-big-discourse-problem/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/01/11/msm-miss-point-trumps-fisa-slam-perfectly-illustrating-big-discourse-problem/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The media ran around in circles all day chasing Trump’s violation of the conventions for political messaging, without conveying anything useful to the people.</p>
<p>Trump actually communicated useful information to the people.  It just didn’t sound like conventional political messaging to the MSM — which proceeded to harp on that, as if it’s what matters when the people have been at risk of improper surveillance by their government for years.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355686</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another tactic in the cyberwar against conservatives, but not the first time Twitter has been accused of this particular nefarious practice (unless it was Facebook (or probably both)).

https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/01/12/bozell-twitter-shadow-banning-sinister-threat-free-speech-history/

&quot;...It matters that Twitter apparently focuses on what it deems “conservative” keywords and themes, in this effort to root out bot accounts.  Having spent enough time on Twitter, I can say with a high level of confidence that bot accounts are also created by the left.  There is no evidence of a similar diligence at Twitter about getting rid of those accounts.

But the bias in this regard is not as important as the distinction between literal banning, and shadow banning.  &lt;b&gt;The shadow banning is more insidious.  It’s insidious to the point of being objectively unfair, as opposed to simply biased, &lt;/b&gt;and a very wrong form of treatment for any Twitter user.
...
There are many people who, like Bozell, see social media as “the communications vehicle of the future,” and who focus, like Rosler, on the aspect of rights.  In effect, they see this as a freedom of speech issue, and even suggest there’s a way to punish Twitter for what it’s doing.

I don’t see it that way, however.  That’s because Twitter is a private business.  It is not under an obligation to carry your speech or mine to the world, any more than the New York Times or CBS is.

But if Twitter is making money off of its platform, the company is obligated to refrain from engaging in fraud.  &lt;b&gt;And fraud is what shadow banning looks like to me.&lt;/b&gt;

It might seem counterintuitive, but the aggrieved party, rather than necessarily being the shadow banned user, could be the advertisers on Twitter, who are paying the company to involve them in a fraudulent operation.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another tactic in the cyberwar against conservatives, but not the first time Twitter has been accused of this particular nefarious practice (unless it was Facebook (or probably both)).</p>
<p><a href="https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/01/12/bozell-twitter-shadow-banning-sinister-threat-free-speech-history/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/01/12/bozell-twitter-shadow-banning-sinister-threat-free-speech-history/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;It matters that Twitter apparently focuses on what it deems “conservative” keywords and themes, in this effort to root out bot accounts.  Having spent enough time on Twitter, I can say with a high level of confidence that bot accounts are also created by the left.  There is no evidence of a similar diligence at Twitter about getting rid of those accounts.</p>
<p>But the bias in this regard is not as important as the distinction between literal banning, and shadow banning.  <b>The shadow banning is more insidious.  It’s insidious to the point of being objectively unfair, as opposed to simply biased, </b>and a very wrong form of treatment for any Twitter user.<br />
&#8230;<br />
There are many people who, like Bozell, see social media as “the communications vehicle of the future,” and who focus, like Rosler, on the aspect of rights.  In effect, they see this as a freedom of speech issue, and even suggest there’s a way to punish Twitter for what it’s doing.</p>
<p>I don’t see it that way, however.  That’s because Twitter is a private business.  It is not under an obligation to carry your speech or mine to the world, any more than the New York Times or CBS is.</p>
<p>But if Twitter is making money off of its platform, the company is obligated to refrain from engaging in fraud.  <b>And fraud is what shadow banning looks like to me.</b></p>
<p>It might seem counterintuitive, but the aggrieved party, rather than necessarily being the shadow banned user, could be the advertisers on Twitter, who are paying the company to involve them in a fraudulent operation.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355678</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And Google didn&#039;t even get the fact-checking right.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/11/wapo-we-didnt-attack-the-daily-caller-and-dont-know-why-google-is/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Google didn&#8217;t even get the fact-checking right.</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/11/wapo-we-didnt-attack-the-daily-caller-and-dont-know-why-google-is/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/11/wapo-we-didnt-attack-the-daily-caller-and-dont-know-why-google-is/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355676</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some more on bias at YouTube aka Google.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/15/google-is-using-its-immense-power-to-censor-content-that-doesnt-fit-its-political-goals/

Read it to watch the Ajit Pai video.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more on bias at YouTube aka Google.</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/15/google-is-using-its-immense-power-to-censor-content-that-doesnt-fit-its-political-goals/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/15/google-is-using-its-immense-power-to-censor-content-that-doesnt-fit-its-political-goals/</a></p>
<p>Read it to watch the Ajit Pai video.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355640</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 05:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[arfldgrs Says: 
January 11th, 2018 at 11:01 am
taking things to a whole new level (soviet operatives in the open as a image to conjure up):
* * *
Google&#039;s on the case as well - in the open.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/09/googles-new-fact-check-feature-almost-exclusively-targets-conservative-sites/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arfldgrs Says:<br />
January 11th, 2018 at 11:01 am<br />
taking things to a whole new level (soviet operatives in the open as a image to conjure up):<br />
* * *<br />
Google&#8217;s on the case as well &#8211; in the open.</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/09/googles-new-fact-check-feature-almost-exclusively-targets-conservative-sites/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/09/googles-new-fact-check-feature-almost-exclusively-targets-conservative-sites/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2018/01/10/trump-in-control/#comment-2355639</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 05:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sloppy Steve Says: 
January 11th, 2018 at 6:56 pm
This is an interesting subject and one in which I have a personal stake.
* * *
One fictional illustration of the principles you describe has stuck with me for 40+ years: Robert Heinlein&#039;s &quot;The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress&quot; includes a great scene of the protagonist trying to get the Moon dwellers to agree on a practical course of action during their rebellion, and is getting derailed by the very people you were warned against.  His cry to his mentor was always, &quot;Get these yammerheads off my back!&quot;
(He was open to reasoned dissent IIRC but not enamoured of it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sloppy Steve Says:<br />
January 11th, 2018 at 6:56 pm<br />
This is an interesting subject and one in which I have a personal stake.<br />
* * *<br />
One fictional illustration of the principles you describe has stuck with me for 40+ years: Robert Heinlein&#8217;s &#8220;The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress&#8221; includes a great scene of the protagonist trying to get the Moon dwellers to agree on a practical course of action during their rebellion, and is getting derailed by the very people you were warned against.  His cry to his mentor was always, &#8220;Get these yammerheads off my back!&#8221;<br />
(He was open to reasoned dissent IIRC but not enamoured of it.)</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 04:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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