Not necessarily. People who live longer will have more years to accumulate health care costs. In addition it is not uncommon and maybe even usual to have high health care costs the last 6 years of your life. My father died at age 67 of lung cancer, a consequence of 40 years of smoking- which he stopped 9 years before he died. Judging by his parents and grandparents, he would have lived some 15 years beyond 67 had he not smoked. Even if he hadn’t smoked, it is quite possible that he would still have had the high health care costs the last 6 months of his life.

A human has the power to set their own metabolic limits using a physical skill. So long as they obey Society, of course their body and mind and spirit is going to be at war. A house divided.

Their alpha state mind waves isn’t stable enough with all the negative thoughts associated with “losing weight” and “exercising”.

That gives me pause. If they can lose 50-100-150 pounds, perhaps they shouldn’t have the surgery? IMO, it’s an incredibly drastic surgery and should be a means of last resort. The show is heavy on human drama, but I have to think that it’s very accurate though. In nearly every show, the weight is more a physical manifestation of emotional issues.

Not saying I’m against it, but I think as a society we need to talk more about it.

But with gastric weight loss surgery, it seems likely (to me) that the aggregate up-front costs would be high and that the long term savings would also be high or much higher.

On the other hand, I remember my fun-loving father who often said, “Boy, I wish I was as slender as that guy. What fun I would have eating my way back up to my weight!” It was sort of a joke, but not entirely. He was never obese, but probably 15 to 30 lbs. overweight most of his life.

So … If the weight really stayed off, that would be great. But I’m positive that some small minority would act on my father’s joke. I suppose there could mitigating clauses in the insurance to correct for that. Perhaps.

Actually, you misunderstood what I was saying. I was speaking of aggregate costs for the entire group.

In other words, let’s say a certain number of people (a million, for example) get the surgery. Let’s say it costs insurance $30,000 each (I have no idea how much it actually costs). Let’s say they each are saved years of disability, other surgeries, maybe even rehab or a nursing home. That could mean (and again, I have no idea what the figures are) a financial savings overall for the entire group in terms of the total money spent.

My comment wasn’t the least bit touchy-feely. It was trying to balance the financial costs of doing gastric surgery versus the financial costs of doing nothing.

This would be because the neural network was transplanted and not rejected. Much as modern devices store data in numerous hard drives and solid state drives, this machine people call the mortal body also has redundancies and removable drives.

Quantum neural science has a different problem with the brain, in that the brain does not have enough data storage for all of our memories. This would easily be explained if the brain was a radio, a wifi relay, and not the hard drive and CPU itself. It is merely the avatar, the actual controller is somewhere else “logged in” at the access point. Destroy the brain and the patient goes comatose, flatlines, and dies. Destroy the radio, and you don’t hear the music.

That’s ye olde “If it saves one life, it’s worth it” concept dressed up in somewhat less rosy colors. Still, it has always seemed to me to be a false concept — unless it is your life or the life of someone you love.

Hence, it’s popularity exceeds its actual truth. But isn’t it that way with so much of life these days?

This kind of surgery is closer to a lobotomy, in terms of behavioral change.

The ancient or traditional method for this issue is fasting, with or without water. For 1 day, increasing to 3 days, then 7 days, with pauses in between to rebalance the nutrition content of the body cells. The common sense conception is that the body needs a constant stream of nutrients from digestion, but the amount of energy and toxins produced by the digestive process is huge. Fat and internal energy is better to metabolize instead, since the liver has already purified it. The time it takes for me to stop eating and no longer feel hunger is about 18-24 hours. YMMV due to metabolic differences.

Humans are weak and have been taught to be the slaves of their body, rather than the masters of this vehicle, machine, avatar.

More advanced applications involve Eastern methods such as yoga, Tai Chi, or Nikola Tesla’s research.

After about 2.5 days, absorbing energy from the EM field of the sunlight, becomes feasible. Something Tesla once claimed, but I had to look up to verify my experimental data. It would easily explain how the ancients could fast for 40 days and not die or faint.

It is very strange to wake up and no longer want to eat anything for the entire day. Then feel the exact same thing later. Without the body’s need to subsist on food from the earth, it has to obtain energy from other sources. This is an entirely different ATP conversion process. It may not even be an ATP cellular chemical process at all.

The weird part is in the heightened mental perception area of effect, and the lack of physical fatigue.

What the doctors know about the human system is only the tip of the iceberg, and that is being optimistic.