“neo-neocon Says:
November 25th, 2017 at 10:36 pm

DNW:

Women were sending nude Polaroids back then. But I doubt men were sending full frontal nude photos of themselves to women back then … “

Yes it was women doing it: dropping the pic on the shelves to be found later. Flashes in the mirror invariably obscured their faces if the head was not cropped out entirely. These were not Playboy quality images, or bodies, it goes without saying. They were unceremoniously dumped in the trash after a caustic comment or two to one’s buddies.

“President Obama suggested that the unfortunately-named Anthony Weiner should resign.”

Did he ever suggest that Ted Kennedy should resign during the decades Kennedy served in the Senate after Chappaquiddick? Or Bill Clinton?

Women were sending nude Polaroids back then. But I doubt men were sending full frontal nude photos of themselves to women back then, unless the men were porno stars.

That’s one of the reasons the magazine Playgirl didn’t appeal much to women; it found its real audience in gay men.

We’re in basic agreement on this issue.

Ymar Sakar,

It seems to me that support for your point of view boils down to, “No longer a nation “under god”. Although, that depends on which god.”

If a nation be divided, with half or arguably even more… still loyal to God, in that in their heart of hearts they conceive of him as a beneficent creator, then can that nation be accurately labeled as no longer under God?

FWIW, I’m not convinced that a nation that honored liberty was ever going to be able to avoid division. In fact, arguably the existence of Lucifer and God ensured it.

When the history books write about the collapse of our civilization, I sure hope they don’t forget to include the role played by Helen Gurley Brown.

I’ve been collecting personal testimony witnesses. They can’t all be Leftist disinformation… I would know, since I saw Yuri Bezmenov and Bella Dodd’s instruction.

This issue is not something people know about. They don’t want to know about it. They don’t want to know that the US military was getting Gramsci hijacked 5 years ago or 10 years ago.

These secret combinations, as the Mormons would call it, are akin to the Free Mason secret societies that the Alt Right and Deep State is related to.

I don’t know how much of this “USA” has been corrupted… but it’s a lot. Spiritual warfare is based on territorial control and the territory is invested by the number and quality of followers of a particular god.

It’s over. Maybe tomorrow people will repent, but given human history… that’s not something even miracles can fix.

States, city, and individual contracts may still exist, but the US Constitution contract between the feds, people, and the Most High is definitely broken.

By 9/11 2001, for various reasons.

No longer a nation “under god”. Although, that depends on which god. DC probably has many gods, like Moloch, they have dedicated their habits and sacrifices and laws to. Probably not the same as the Free Masonic god [G] ideal back in the Independence War days.

Why does it matter whether a nation is under a god or not? Goes back to Deuteronomy 32 and Genesis.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+32&version=ESV

The Most High divided up the 70 nations according to the Sons of God, the Watchers of the Divine Counsel. These are equal to or similar to the 1/3rd of the host of heaven that fell with Lucifer.

Israel was never one of the 70.

Now that the US is no longer a nation under contract to the Most High, the US of A is free to be occupied by any other god. Divine protection has been stripped. If you don’t do your part of the contract, the other part is free due to the voiding of the contract.

Under the protection, contract, and power of the Most High, no other nation was allowed to control the US. No EMP bomb, no foreign nation, no WMD was enough to overcome the power of that god. Now? Now is different. Now survivalists know something.

Just Rep. Conyers’ involvement in Congress’ sexual payoff scheme would never have made it into the news if nothing remained of that republic.

I don’t that has much to do with human nations and their workings. The higher power or the elohim or what people call the Most High’s Divine Council, has been leaking information on the Left’s evil for awhile now. ACORN, Planned Profit, Hollywood, Pizza gate. Has anyone paid attention yet to it and fixed it yet? Still there.

Same as the people Jeremiah warned. Same as the people Noah warned. Same as the people in Soddom and Gomorrah. They were told the consequences of ignoring certain things. They thought they were invulnerable.

Maybe to humans, they think their nation or traditions or “republic” is invulnerable to the might of the gods. I wouldn’t put any bets on that one.

If this nation has been handed over to the fallen Watchers no longer part of the Divine Counsel, then this nation will be tested with fire and pain. Sooner or later. Maybe it will be over Apollo and aliens, as Reagan mentioned with an alien threat. Maybe it will be the military industrial complex like Dwight Eisenhower conspiracy theorist, said on tv. Maybe it will be the Deep State or whomever Trum thinks killed JFK. They don’t tell me these things, probably because I never ask.

Screwtape letters time, Ymar version.

Lucifer: He belongs to me, not you, because he loved Hollywood and Hollywood got fame and fortune from the world I promised them.

Defending counsel: No, he was ignorant of what Hollywood was and chose to support it as all mortals do. Thus his decision was not fully informed and must be given more trials.

Lucifer: Sure, which is why we and you exposed the evils of Hollywood and ACORN and Planned Parenthood to them, so that the mortals may use what you gave them, free will. It would have been better for us all if they had listened to me and discarded that plan in favor of my own.

Defending counsel: You take the ones that still supported the evils of man with you to the hell you were promised, and we will take the ones that have repented and abjured the fame and corruption of your world.

Lucifer: We’ll be back for the next round. I will be as the Most High, this world will be mine and salvation for all will be given. Our promised place will not be hell, but paradise.

Humans and their nations, aren’t going to be all that important later on, GB. They like to think so, because humans are the top of the pyramid, heh right.

A lot of the protestants use plagues or disasters as signs. It’s a result of a lack of wisdom of the Old Testament, specifically the Torah. Which, btw, is not merely Judaism but also Christian, in the oldest sense of the term. Genesis, Deuteronomy, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers. Without reading and understanding Leviticus, as Paul did, the entire concept of the law makes no sense to modern Americans. The Plagues and disasters were things promised to be given to Israel, to make the other nations jealous and so bring them back into the fold as lost sheep: once they saw first hand that their own gods were powerless. As course they would be powerless, they were nephiliim, human angel hybrids descendants of the corrupted Watchers. A Watcher may be powerful enough to kill an entire Assyrian army in one night, but that primordial essence is nowhere close to the power of the Most High. The angels cannot even “stand” in the presence of the Most High, as getting too close will burn them away, destroying their impurity and thus their essence if they get too close. That is for the “angels in heaven” before they fell. Teaching humans that there is a power hierarchy amongst the elohim, was a very long and difficult lesson.

The US’ contract with the Most High is not Torah, nowhere even close. For one thing, there’s religious freedom, the Declaration of Independence, and the US Constitution. The method and plan is similar and the process is the same. In Torah, the punishment for worshiping other things was death. A lot of things was punished by that, for the wages of sin was death. Humanity has “progressed” a little bit more with these nations and their proud technologies. So “free will” and freedom of conscience and worship, is a higher law, although not the highest law. Americans got what they could withstand. If they can maintain it, they’ll will get more, which is why some nations prosper and other nations like Zimbabwe do not.

Why does it matter now? Because if the Deep State and the Left are just human evil, kill them. Problem solved.

Ever try to kill a elohim or an angel? A problem on a whole different level. Any evidence in the scriptures or human history and tech that they ever achieved such?
Maybe in 10 years the “Americans” will start thinking where I am. Assuming they have 10 years…

“Geoffrey Britain Says:
November 25th, 2017 at 1:23 pm

“Treachery is only a sin in a moral universe where betrayal is wrong. It can only be judged wrong if it violates some principle of human value thought to be objectively and categorically binding.” DNW

I can’t quite agree. A society in which treachery is the norm is not sustainable over the long term. … there is an inescapable pragmatic component to viewing treachery as immoral.”

I don’t disagree with that. When I spoke of sin I was referring not to the inevitable consequences of some behavior or another, but in terms of what was recognized and acted upon as unconscionable behavior mandating negative sanctions.

Yeah, I mean one doesn’t have to recognize that aborting foeti to the extent that the population replacement level fails is a wrong perpetrated against the teleology of the foetus, in order to recognize that it ultimately makes the associative arrangement that permitted it unsustainable in the face of adversity, too.

I can’t quite agree. A society in which treachery is the norm is not sustainable over the long term. Whereas, a society in which treachery is essentially unknown will prosper both materially and spiritually. A necessary foundation for societally beneficial competition is cooperation. The great majority must agree to abide by “the rules” with proportionate consequence for those who break societal norms.

Treachery makes cooperation unsustainable. So there is an inescapable pragmatic component to viewing treachery as immoral.

” Geoffrey Britain Says:

Circumstantially, it certainly can be a foolishly stupid idea. But… the sender is however mistakenly, indicating great trust in the recipient.

To betray that trust is the far greater sin.

That the betrayer is not subject to great societal opprobrium speaks volumes of today’s ‘morality’.”

Treachery is only a sin in a moral universe where betrayal is wrong. It can only be judged wrong if it violates some principle of human value thought to be objectively and categorically binding. In a social world of hand flapping self-stimulating excitable and degenerate American peasant trash, reduced by both psychological fashions and the dicta of science popularizers to purposeless appetite entities, it is not an unexpected occurrence.

When it is seen as cruel and unnecessary to execute a capital sentence on murderers, one gains a pretty good idea of what the average American thinks of the value of his own life.

“OldTexan Says:

This poor son of a bitch will go down in history as committing a ‘weapons grade stupid’ act …
No matter what age a person is nekked pictures are never a good idea.”

But it seems the naked ape portion of the population, cannot resist the primate display behavior impulse. Women were dropping nude Polaroids and home developed photos on the supermarket shelves I stocked while working in high school, decades ago.

“When did sending salacious photos to a girlfriend become an acceptable courting move? Who does that sort of thing? “

For the answer to first question see my comments. See Old Texan, above for the answer to the second.

” Janet Says:
How did we get here? How did we get to this place where adults send photos of their genitals as easily as phone numbers used to be exchanged? Not everyone, of course, but enough to make it not shocking. I have my own thoughts on the subject but wonder what others think.”

Honor died, or was killed by “equality” and “solidarity” because it demanded too much and some could never reach the bar under any circumstances; and pop psychology ascended to the throne with its consort relativistic anthropology.

We are all just skin bags of appetite now, according to the received wisdom. He is OK and she is OK and it is OK and all is OK, as long as everyone is welcome and feels included. It is unreasonable given these anthropological “truths” to expect less or more.

“Ralph Kinney Bennett Says:

This is all so very sad. If Joe is a victim of his own poor judgment/stupidity, the woman who spread these pictures is beneath contempt. But so is the Washington Post, which engaged in its own “revenge porn.” Its story is purely motivated by its prurient desire to “get a Republican in on this too.”

He seems to have done one redeeming thing. And that is when his tormenter asked him what he would tell the Capitol police, he gave a straightforward and unvarnished, and largely unself-serving reply.