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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2291952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Africa has no chance of getting out of slavery so long as Islam, the elohim, American Superpower backing the Deep State, and the Russian/Chinese conglomeration of human and elohim rulers.

Not even the USA stands a chance against the powers that be... how does one expect third world primitives to get out. Qaddafi was going to create a gold bank, a currency based on gold itself. Look what NATO and the US did to him as a result. Africans better keep in line or else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Africa has no chance of getting out of slavery so long as Islam, the elohim, American Superpower backing the Deep State, and the Russian/Chinese conglomeration of human and elohim rulers.</p>
<p>Not even the USA stands a chance against the powers that be&#8230; how does one expect third world primitives to get out. Qaddafi was going to create a gold bank, a currency based on gold itself. Look what NATO and the US did to him as a result. Africans better keep in line or else.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2291949</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[America and Jimmy Carter, helped put Rhodesia into international collapse and thus created Zimbabwe. Then it was sold to the Chinese.

Very similar pattern to the Clintons selling the Chinese missile secrets.

Americans create the problem, they redistribute power to fix the problem, and then they blame it on Republicans, patriots, right wing militia, when it goes FUBAR or pear shaped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America and Jimmy Carter, helped put Rhodesia into international collapse and thus created Zimbabwe. Then it was sold to the Chinese.</p>
<p>Very similar pattern to the Clintons selling the Chinese missile secrets.</p>
<p>Americans create the problem, they redistribute power to fix the problem, and then they blame it on Republicans, patriots, right wing militia, when it goes FUBAR or pear shaped.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 00:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frog, Ian Smith  governed Southern Rhodesia. It was not an official apartheid government as in South Africa, but the black Africans were not much represented in government and the schools were segregated. However, blacks who  worked on the  farms had a decent life as far as  things  went in Africa those days. 

The black Africans customs from time immemorial are tribal. They have little concept of private  property  and the responsibility that goes with it.  To establish the institutions and customs we have would require a couple of generations of focused training and development.

I agree that the Chinese have their eyes on Zimbabwe and other African countries with valuable mineral and farm resources. The question  is whether they can do  any better job than the Europeans in developing these countries. We&#039;ll see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frog, Ian Smith  governed Southern Rhodesia. It was not an official apartheid government as in South Africa, but the black Africans were not much represented in government and the schools were segregated. However, blacks who  worked on the  farms had a decent life as far as  things  went in Africa those days. </p>
<p>The black Africans customs from time immemorial are tribal. They have little concept of private  property  and the responsibility that goes with it.  To establish the institutions and customs we have would require a couple of generations of focused training and development.</p>
<p>I agree that the Chinese have their eyes on Zimbabwe and other African countries with valuable mineral and farm resources. The question  is whether they can do  any better job than the Europeans in developing these countries. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2290654</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is pretty clear that I do not agree with bdh as to inherent difference yay or nay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty clear that I do not agree with bdh as to inherent difference yay or nay.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2290435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;They require rulers aka chiefs.&lt;/b&gt;

So do Westerners and Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>They require rulers aka chiefs.</b></p>
<p>So do Westerners and Americans.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2290434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;by our founders blessings of our Constitution, law and heritage.&lt;/b&gt;

Those blessings didn&#039;t come from tradition or human founding fathers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>by our founders blessings of our Constitution, law and heritage.</b></p>
<p>Those blessings didn&#8217;t come from tradition or human founding fathers.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2289968</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[China is and has been making a major financial move into black Africa. The Chinese are not stupid. They are buying major natural resources for petty amounts.
Where does cobalt, an important metal for high-strength steel alloys (think military), come from, for example?

I am increasingly convinced by African and African-American and Haitian history that blacks cannot succeed with democratic governance. They require rulers aka chiefs. It has always been thus, whether in Nairobi or Sudan or Detroit or East St. Louis or...you name it.

Zimbabwe is not &quot;Rhodesia&quot;, Neo and the NYT please note. It is the former Southern Rhodesia, and Zambia is the former Northern Rhodesia. Which did Ian Smith govern as prime minister?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is and has been making a major financial move into black Africa. The Chinese are not stupid. They are buying major natural resources for petty amounts.<br />
Where does cobalt, an important metal for high-strength steel alloys (think military), come from, for example?</p>
<p>I am increasingly convinced by African and African-American and Haitian history that blacks cannot succeed with democratic governance. They require rulers aka chiefs. It has always been thus, whether in Nairobi or Sudan or Detroit or East St. Louis or&#8230;you name it.</p>
<p>Zimbabwe is not &#8220;Rhodesia&#8221;, Neo and the NYT please note. It is the former Southern Rhodesia, and Zambia is the former Northern Rhodesia. Which did Ian Smith govern as prime minister?</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Run off all the white folks and you get Haiti.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Run off all the white folks and you get Haiti.</p>
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		By: Lorenz Gude		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2289410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorenz Gude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[correction....As three Black youths.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction&#8230;.As three Black youths&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Lorenz Gude		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/21/mugabe-forced-out-finally/#comment-2289408</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorenz Gude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ above has, as I do, actual experience in Zimabawe and his analysis is fine by me. I would add that to understand politics in Zimbabwe you have to understand that Mugabe and ZANUPF are Chinese clients and have been from the beginning. Even worse China bailed Mugabe out with the result that the country is a de facto Chinese colony. (Much as Cambodia is a de facto Vietnamese colony - the Vietnamese army is still there.) So even though being rid of Mugabe is great news, the freedom of the government to do things like adopt Western style property rights is severely limited by what China is willing to let them do. The people themselves are wonderful and are quite upfront about their disappointment with the regime. One of my favorite memories of Zimbabwe was from a sleepy Sunday afternoon on a quiet street in Bulawayo. As Black three youths approached me wearing the latest style hip hop type attire I realized that the street was otherwise empty  and I was quite conspicuously alone. As they drew near they sang out in unison: &quot;Good afternoon, sir!! in the best British school boy style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ above has, as I do, actual experience in Zimabawe and his analysis is fine by me. I would add that to understand politics in Zimbabwe you have to understand that Mugabe and ZANUPF are Chinese clients and have been from the beginning. Even worse China bailed Mugabe out with the result that the country is a de facto Chinese colony. (Much as Cambodia is a de facto Vietnamese colony &#8211; the Vietnamese army is still there.) So even though being rid of Mugabe is great news, the freedom of the government to do things like adopt Western style property rights is severely limited by what China is willing to let them do. The people themselves are wonderful and are quite upfront about their disappointment with the regime. One of my favorite memories of Zimbabwe was from a sleepy Sunday afternoon on a quiet street in Bulawayo. As Black three youths approached me wearing the latest style hip hop type attire I realized that the street was otherwise empty  and I was quite conspicuously alone. As they drew near they sang out in unison: &#8220;Good afternoon, sir!! in the best British school boy style.</p>
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