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		By: Irv		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/10/the-roy-moore-sex-allegations/#comment-2279971</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irv]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do not accept obviously politically motivated charges like these as true without real proof.  This election is too important to be decided by a woman with that background 38 years after an alleged incident.
I also believe that the piling-on of another woman a week later is the standard way to reinforce charges that do not support themselves.
I also believe that most things that are too good to be true (for the opposition) are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not accept obviously politically motivated charges like these as true without real proof.  This election is too important to be decided by a woman with that background 38 years after an alleged incident.<br />
I also believe that the piling-on of another woman a week later is the standard way to reinforce charges that do not support themselves.<br />
I also believe that most things that are too good to be true (for the opposition) are not.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Dave Says: 
November 10th, 2017 at 9:52 pm
I don’t condone sexual assaults, but I condone due process and the principles of innocent until proven guilty. &lt;/b&gt;

A contradiction when Dave keeps talking about eye for an eye, fire against fire, poison against poison.

What does he think evil is, except making people use evil to win against evil?

Fire is innocent until proven guilty? Then by what method did you decide to use fire against fire. It certainly wasn&#039;t due process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dave Says:<br />
November 10th, 2017 at 9:52 pm<br />
I don’t condone sexual assaults, but I condone due process and the principles of innocent until proven guilty. </b></p>
<p>A contradiction when Dave keeps talking about eye for an eye, fire against fire, poison against poison.</p>
<p>What does he think evil is, except making people use evil to win against evil?</p>
<p>Fire is innocent until proven guilty? Then by what method did you decide to use fire against fire. It certainly wasn&#8217;t due process.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;EVIDENCE OF STRATEGIC PUBLICATION
Plenty of it, the most recent being the Billy Bush tape*, which was held in limbo for 11 years until it could be usefully disinterred.&lt;/b&gt;

Trum was not a Republican 11 years ago and may have held it back as a personal favor to him (or his friends in the Ruling Class like the Clintons or Democrats he funded in Congress). They are like the NSA. They collect data, as the Left&#039;s intel and propaganda arm, and will use it to assassinate a person&#039;s profile or rehabilitate. Same thing NKVD did in Russia.

&lt;b&gt;Politics has always been a very dirty business. And these days, thanks perhaps to Social Media, it’s even dirtier.&lt;/b&gt;

In DC, if you don&#039;t have dirt on your allies and enemies, you&#039;re an amateur and a green newbie. DC hasn&#039;t become more corrupt, just more transparent and leaky. You see all the rats and cockroaches now. There&#039;s fewer corners to hide the prostitutes and DEAD BODIES.

&lt;b&gt;So we need to ask; who are these reporters’ sources that led them to each of these women? How come they were silent for ~40 years before now when Moore was running for the State Supreme Court, Governor and during the Primaries in the past 3+ decades? Why the WaPo instead of an Alabama newspaper? How come the only people all these sources — all independent, all incommunicado with each other yet somehow all located within the same short time period — saw fit to speak to were Washington Post reporters just before an election with national implications?&lt;/b&gt;

That&#039;s why they should have instigated JournoList instead of asking the public rhetorical retard questions that are in the bottom 25% of human capability.

Democrats use dirt to get leverage or get rid of Republicans. Here, they lost leverage and still didn&#039;t get rid of M. So did somebody panick and do something they weren&#039;t ordered by their Hierarchy? Did Trum&#039;s twitter account make them go cat crazy? Shrugs whatever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>EVIDENCE OF STRATEGIC PUBLICATION<br />
Plenty of it, the most recent being the Billy Bush tape*, which was held in limbo for 11 years until it could be usefully disinterred.</b></p>
<p>Trum was not a Republican 11 years ago and may have held it back as a personal favor to him (or his friends in the Ruling Class like the Clintons or Democrats he funded in Congress). They are like the NSA. They collect data, as the Left&#8217;s intel and propaganda arm, and will use it to assassinate a person&#8217;s profile or rehabilitate. Same thing NKVD did in Russia.</p>
<p><b>Politics has always been a very dirty business. And these days, thanks perhaps to Social Media, it’s even dirtier.</b></p>
<p>In DC, if you don&#8217;t have dirt on your allies and enemies, you&#8217;re an amateur and a green newbie. DC hasn&#8217;t become more corrupt, just more transparent and leaky. You see all the rats and cockroaches now. There&#8217;s fewer corners to hide the prostitutes and DEAD BODIES.</p>
<p><b>So we need to ask; who are these reporters’ sources that led them to each of these women? How come they were silent for ~40 years before now when Moore was running for the State Supreme Court, Governor and during the Primaries in the past 3+ decades? Why the WaPo instead of an Alabama newspaper? How come the only people all these sources — all independent, all incommunicado with each other yet somehow all located within the same short time period — saw fit to speak to were Washington Post reporters just before an election with national implications?</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why they should have instigated JournoList instead of asking the public rhetorical retard questions that are in the bottom 25% of human capability.</p>
<p>Democrats use dirt to get leverage or get rid of Republicans. Here, they lost leverage and still didn&#8217;t get rid of M. So did somebody panick and do something they weren&#8217;t ordered by their Hierarchy? Did Trum&#8217;s twitter account make them go cat crazy? Shrugs whatever.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;but any word from the sacred mouth of a young girl or older woman wanting attention.&lt;/b&gt;

It was the patriarchs and Southern Baptists that gave this power to them. Something people don&#039;t want to talk about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>but any word from the sacred mouth of a young girl or older woman wanting attention.</b></p>
<p>It was the patriarchs and Southern Baptists that gave this power to them. Something people don&#8217;t want to talk about.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Hermann Cain, apparently, was guilty as charged — and he withdrew from the primary race.&lt;/b&gt;

No, Cain&#039;s employer caved. Cain was still contesting in and out of cult, and they settled with him as a result.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Hermann Cain, apparently, was guilty as charged — and he withdrew from the primary race.</b></p>
<p>No, Cain&#8217;s employer caved. Cain was still contesting in and out of cult, and they settled with him as a result.</p>
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		By: Classical Values &#187; &#8220;a crime against nature, an inherent evil, and an act so heinous that it defies oneâ€™s ability to describe it&#8221;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Classical Values &#187; &#8220;a crime against nature, an inherent evil, and an act so heinous that it defies oneâ€™s ability to describe it&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] yet, if I look at his latest problem, I am faced with a moral and intellectual [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] yet, if I look at his latest problem, I am faced with a moral and intellectual [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sarah Rolph		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/10/the-roy-moore-sex-allegations/#comment-2278409</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 12:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, I certainly didn&#039;t mean to imply you would have changed your mind about Anita Hill simply because your political views changed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to imply you would have changed your mind about Anita Hill simply because your political views changed.</p>
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		By: DEEBEE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/10/the-roy-moore-sex-allegations/#comment-2278146</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As soon as lib erase all the &quot;accomplishments&quot; of the Chappaquiddick murder, we can lynch Moore]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as lib erase all the &#8220;accomplishments&#8221; of the Chappaquiddick murder, we can lynch Moore</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/11/10/the-roy-moore-sex-allegations/#comment-2278018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whitehall Says: 
November 11th, 2017 at 7:41 am
Happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger when he first ran for governor of California, as a Republican.

Late hits, scarcely creditable allegations, long past.

I sense a trend!
**
Back in the dark ages (2007) the Times (IIRC) went all eleventy on some allegations of hanky-panky between McCain and a woman-not-his-wife.
Both denied, and there was no traction for the story, so it died.
But, they tried.

Hermann Cain, apparently, was guilty as charged - and he withdrew from the primary race.

Hart &#038; Rice have already been taken care of by Neo above.

NOT voting pro or con on Moore, just saying that the trend is long-playing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whitehall Says:<br />
November 11th, 2017 at 7:41 am<br />
Happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger when he first ran for governor of California, as a Republican.</p>
<p>Late hits, scarcely creditable allegations, long past.</p>
<p>I sense a trend!<br />
**<br />
Back in the dark ages (2007) the Times (IIRC) went all eleventy on some allegations of hanky-panky between McCain and a woman-not-his-wife.<br />
Both denied, and there was no traction for the story, so it died.<br />
But, they tried.</p>
<p>Hermann Cain, apparently, was guilty as charged &#8211; and he withdrew from the primary race.</p>
<p>Hart &amp; Rice have already been taken care of by Neo above.</p>
<p>NOT voting pro or con on Moore, just saying that the trend is long-playing.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m watching for anything more to come of these two comments.
It&#039;s so hard not to go full CSI.

Da Bear Says: 
November 11th, 2017 at 6:50 am
FORTY YEARS AGO ..in a rural Chirstian state like Alabama, everyone knew everybody’s “dirty” business. If any of this were true, it would have come out then or in subsequent elections.

Nothing, nada, zip had ever been openly said about this Moore character. IN FORTY YEARS.

Bob Bach Says: 
November 11th, 2017 at 6:52 am
I understand people’s reservations given the late disclosure of these events. &lt;b&gt;The post Weinstein era, I think, has led many women victims to be more willing to come forward. That doesn’t mean all are truthful, but it is still not easy for most to to come forward.&lt;/b&gt; In light of this, the following ad from Strange campaign should give all pause on Moore.
Watch GOP Sen. Luther Strange accuse Roy Moore of being soft on pedophiles back in September — The Week
https://apple.news/AWvWHYfDjRyGfuh9R_I8DUg

* * 
Was anything ever said &lt;em&gt;privately &lt;/em&gt;about Moore&#039;s conduct with women, 38 years ago or any time up to now?  Is he Weinsteinian in the sense that everyone knew, but he had so much power no one would talk? 

Did anyone, including Strange, complain about these decisions at the time, or are they suspect only now?

Was Strange setting the stage for the girls&#039; accusations himself, but for some reason not able to get them published  before the primary?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m watching for anything more to come of these two comments.<br />
It&#8217;s so hard not to go full CSI.</p>
<p>Da Bear Says:<br />
November 11th, 2017 at 6:50 am<br />
FORTY YEARS AGO ..in a rural Chirstian state like Alabama, everyone knew everybody’s “dirty” business. If any of this were true, it would have come out then or in subsequent elections.</p>
<p>Nothing, nada, zip had ever been openly said about this Moore character. IN FORTY YEARS.</p>
<p>Bob Bach Says:<br />
November 11th, 2017 at 6:52 am<br />
I understand people’s reservations given the late disclosure of these events. <b>The post Weinstein era, I think, has led many women victims to be more willing to come forward. That doesn’t mean all are truthful, but it is still not easy for most to to come forward.</b> In light of this, the following ad from Strange campaign should give all pause on Moore.<br />
Watch GOP Sen. Luther Strange accuse Roy Moore of being soft on pedophiles back in September — The Week<br />
<a href="https://apple.news/AWvWHYfDjRyGfuh9R_I8DUg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://apple.news/AWvWHYfDjRyGfuh9R_I8DUg</a></p>
<p>* *<br />
Was anything ever said <em>privately </em>about Moore&#8217;s conduct with women, 38 years ago or any time up to now?  Is he Weinsteinian in the sense that everyone knew, but he had so much power no one would talk? </p>
<p>Did anyone, including Strange, complain about these decisions at the time, or are they suspect only now?</p>
<p>Was Strange setting the stage for the girls&#8217; accusations himself, but for some reason not able to get them published  before the primary?</p>
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