Comments on: Armed robbery thwarted in Cleveland https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:16:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2255188 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:16:07 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2255188 Assistant Village Idiot:

Childhood nutrition is something, and that “something” is environmental.

What’s more, the Flynn effect is not very well understood, and there are other environmental possibilities (many of which are mentioned in the links).

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2255185 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:09:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2255185 The Flynn effect tops out very quickly: about 3 decades, and may be more closely tied to childhood nutrition than anything. I suppose that’s something. Exposure to complex environments, like cities, seems to lead to a mild increase as well. Yet not much, as urban areas are usually among the worst scorers.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2255150 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:29:48 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2255150 Assistant Village Idiot:

I have to differ with you on environmental effects on intelligence. The jury is still out, but there are quite a few indications that environment is a factor that matters. See, for example, the Flynn effect, and the heading “environmental factors” in this analysis of the Flynn effect. See also this and this.

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2255132 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:52:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2255132 Stephen Ippolito – No non-human has an IQ in that range, not even Koko. 20 would be a better number, though even that is complicated and almost ridiculous to say.

70 is the old cutoff for a diagnosis of developmental disability, though we really on functional rather than theoretical performance for that now. 80 is about the minimum one has to have to graduate high school, unless the student is unusually hardworking or is receiving extra help. So think of the kids you knew who couldn’t pass courses even when they tried.

I will note again (pointlessly, as conservatives have as many myths as liberals about what drives intelligence and school success) that the raw candlepower of the brain is 50% genetic and 50% we-don’t-know-looks-like-randomness. Beyond things like eating lead, FAS, or getting hit by a 2×4, environmental causes aren’t putting up the numbers that they actually cause anything. They are other passengers, not drivers.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2255111 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:42:52 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2255111 Daniel in Brookline:

No, I wasn’t.

]]> By: Daniel in Brookline https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2255105 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:28:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2255105 Neo: were you intentionally invoking the Glock “somebody chose the wrong diner” etc. ads? Just wondering…

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=glock+ads

]]> By: parker https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2254281 Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:47:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2254281 I never leave home without a handgun and I am in a relatively crime free area of flyover country. We are trying to get Constitutioanl carry passed in Iowa. Carry permits put you on a public list. No thanks. No law will ever keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, but laws are designed to keep firearms out of the hands of responsible citizens. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Trite but true.

]]> By: Linda Fox https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2254239 Sat, 09 Sep 2017 20:28:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2254239 Ah, Cleveland, my hometown!

Yeah, that part of Cleveland is dangerous. Easy access to highways where the perps can escape, lots of low-cost rentals and public housing. Few stable families in that area.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2254195 Sat, 09 Sep 2017 18:03:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2254195 blert:

See this as well as this and this.

]]> By: GRA https://thenewneo.com/2017/09/08/armed-robbery-thwarted-in-cleveland/#comment-2254185 Sat, 09 Sep 2017 16:48:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=71386#comment-2254185 @ Ray: Two peers of mine in high school were raised in a female single parent household. In place of the father was that of strictness – the drive to maintain a perfect GPA was the standard. Other family members, usually the grandmother or grandfather, helped the mother. One of these two I had a friendship with and when he was expressed his feelings of his now ex-girlfriend while in college he said “She taught me how to be a man.” Granted he was a bit drunk at the time of this confession. Another incident was when a young man when expressed his hurt of not having a mother during a senior retreat in high school.

I’m leaning towards the conclusion that, no matter what those who champion or want to normalize single parent households (or any household other than the traditional nuclear mother-father/woman-man), and no matter what those now adults say who were raised in unconventional households say, every other kid wants a mom and dad who loves and cares for them. The fact that there are successful adults who were raised in single parent households does not defeat the fact that being raised with a mom and dad, caring for one another, in a loving home, is the ideal. Let’s try not to make it harder than it should be.

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