Originally, being excommunicated by the Apostles in the True body of Belief, meant exactly what I said it did.

You’re probably confusing “original” with the 1st Ecumenical Council. That’s not the original christianity.

If you want sources, why don’t you look up Jeremiah’s time and Nephite 600 BC era literature for excommunication. The Abrahamic/Mosaic covenant called for death as punishment, but that was mostly because Moses people were too Egyptian and stupid to handle the higher law. The Divine Counsel has to work with the low grade materials it had, although Yehovah almost started over with Moses as another Jacob…

Freedom of belief was enshrined by Jeremiah and by extension Lehi’s descendants, even before the Temple of Solomon was destroyed. The higher law.

Excommunication today, even so, means a lot more if you really believe the church you are getting kicked out of has a corner on who gets into Heaven.

As I said, you lose your club benefits. If neo bans you, you lose the privilege of commenting, although not reading.

Since you are LDS, presumably, by Heaven I presuppose you don’t mean the purgatory or Heaven of the Vatican. If so, then the lowest heaven is still guaranteed even to non believers, and hell is not something the LDS leaders talk much about, since hell was made for the angels and is not understood by normal humans. Not even the apostles of 1st century AD could determine who went to hell or not, even though the P of Rome stated his indulgences could determine how long you remained in purgatory…

Whether celestial, telestial, or terrestrial, humans won’t care so long as it is better than now, and not Hades/Tarterus. Elysian fields might not be the best, but most won’t complain. Knowing humans, I know somebody will.

Excommunication today, even so, means a lot more if you really believe the church you are getting kicked out of has a corner on who gets into Heaven.

But if you really believed that, you might not do whatever it was that got you excommunicated.

Kind of a Catch-22.

When people think of the term excommunication, they commonly think of the witch burnings by the Vatican and Inquisition and secular kings.

Originally excommunication just meant the person was no longer classified as someone that can teach the doctrine or receive the benefits of membership. It is just like being kicked out of a country, having your citizenship stripped, and then booted out of your country club.

There’s generally no other penalty besides that.

Every time a comment gets banned from a blog, they have been excommunicated.

And by the way he was born in Nevada. Wrap your prophetic mind around that.

I didn’t say anything about where he was born. Thanks for proving you can’t even follow a simple thread train, om. Next time, can you do this other clown act instead, it would be more funny.

You don’t seem able to follow a train of thought or a comment thread.

Harry Reid’s religion has little to do with is politics or his corruption in the Senate. And by the way he was born in Nevada. Wrap your prophetic mind around that.

Is a religion not supposed to have converts… what exactly is your point here. Or is your point that converts aren’t real. In that case, which person is real?

Om has yet to verify whether he is a christian or a self professed christian or not. Every human, om, included has corruption issues they first need to deal with before the Senate can fix things.

Harry Reid was born in Searchlight, NV. But don’t let easily verified facts get in your way.

Beyond that, I’m certainly glad he’s no longer in the Senate doing his corrupt mischief.

It might be a good idea to learn something about Harry Reid’s past. He’s a Nevada guy through and through. I have no idea where you got the idea that he’s from NY.

He is a Mormon convert, though. He converted while in college. Here’s the story:

After a rough and tumble upbringing in the mining town of Searchlight, Reid became an amateur boxer and has acknowledged getting “called out” from bars in his youth…

Reid did not become familiar with the Mormon Church until he began attending high school in Henderson, 45 miles from Searchlight.

“I never went to church, ever — not once in a while or occasionally — but never,” Reid said. “There was no church in Searchlight. There was no place to go to church. So I had no experience with religion at all.”

As a new kid in Henderson, Reid wore clothes his mother bought out of a Sears & Roebuck catalog. “I’m sure I was, as I look back, kind of a hick,” he said.

In spite of Reid’s awkward appearance, a couple of Mormon classmates at Basic High School befriended him and helped him meet other people.

Then Reid took a course offered by the Mormon Church on Mormon history taught by a bishop named Marlan Walker. “He was mesmerizing. For the first time in my life, I heard the message of Jesus Christ,” Reid wrote in “Why I Believe,” a book written by prominent Mormons.

But Reid did not join the church until he was at Utah State.