Statistics aren’t just opinions; liars and politicians often use statistics, but that doesn’t make the stats a lie (or just an opinion).

So turnout % was adjusted for voter inflation, according to this.

I don’t have time to delve into the numbers, but why are you using VAP% and not VEP%?

My point about Cruz not appealing to moderate Reublicans or blue collar Democrats stands.

This is, of course, my opinion. But then, aren’t statistics just opinions?

I wasn’t caught surprised or unawares. The alt-right guys were a new and ominous faction in my party. I said multiple times on this site that they scare the cr@p out of me . . . if they are in the white house. A couple still are, but Bannon is out. I’m thrilled

I also said, numerous times, that I figured Trump would win, even while talking about that would not be a good thing (time will tell, but so far it’s a little bit worse than I thought it would be, in a number of categories. It’s nice that the economy is doing well. And Gorsuch, of course). I kind of went back and forth on whether he would win, like most people, but I wasn’t caught off guard.

The election had no good possibilities for me, frankly.

Adding another 2 minutes on the bomb timer, isn’t a “success”. It’s called a desperate delaying action by the rearguard. Whether it’s a success or not depends on whether you win the Civil War 2 or not, Brian… or are you one of those people who think we are the crazy ones to be talking about war with the Leftist alliance…

Don’t forget something. The ALt Right came late to this little party.

Big Maq, the problem isn’t whether Trum or Cruz would have won. The problem is that it wouldn’t have mattered in DC. Cruz may have performed better, hard to say, but he would have had to kill a lot of Leftists and bureuacrats in DC first.

BrianE, Whether Cruz could have, would have, or should have won, is irrelevant. If you wish to fight against the Leftist alliance, pay more attention to your allies and lack of logistics.

After all, you are a self professed christian that neither believes in angels nor demons. At least Hussein believes in his pastor and Muslim connections.

When looking at it after the fact, is there a substantial difference?
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What is interesting about that article are two things:

1) It tends to tout historical turnout by referring to total nominal count. He mentions it no less than four times – essentially the trump got more votes than Romney point.

While that is a true fact, if you understand the concept of inflation, you know that this is not a meaningful point, as the population has been increasing over time.

2) It quotes a professor on some turnout rates, but those numbers don’t match any of, and are substantially higher than, the VAP% mentioned on this site:
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/voter-turnout-data

Oh, and that very same professor is the one who is associated with that website:
http://www.electproject.org/dr-mcdonald-bio

And, his numbers put trump’s VAP% lower than Romney’s or McCain’s (and lower than the pundit’s estimates that author cites).
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Somewhere back in the post election I broke this out and posted links for the numbers.

Maybe you’d care to search.

So it may not actually matter all that much to these ex patriates or non Americans, what Trum does to trash your American country. They helped elect him, so what. Europe helps Demoncrats all the time get into power. Hussein even had credit card donations from the world… minus the fraud detection.

To the world, so long as Trum keeps Americans neutered and focused on not expanding foreign wars, it’s all good.

And it’s not just the MSM acting this way. Bannon and the other Breitbarters are acting like they are the riders of Rohan coming down from the hills.

Alt-right guys and their fantasies…